another thing that may help snipers out, is to re work it completely. not many will like it, but something has to be done. make the sniper's new absolute range around 200-250m, change the damage a bit, keep the crouch sway as is, tone down the ADS while moving sway a bit. not the best changes, possibly bad changes, but it should help out depending on the damage output.

.4?

What do you mean?

Uprising 1.4

You were the guy who was complaining that the removal of sniping from the MCC would be so terrible to snipers, and that they should be able to snipe everyone from total immunity without risk.
No offense, but it makes it kind of hard to take you seriously when you say CCP is anti-sniper.

Oh yeah. I waged war with feelings of wanting to quit the game, if Uprising didn't turn out to be satisfactory (which it did).
CCP was going the wrong way for a LONG time when it came to the sniper's role.

At one point, they eliminated a lot of ladders that existed in game, because people complained that snipers had too many perches to camp from (even though they were still close to the action). With the loss of their regular perches, snipers moved away into the distant hills and mountains, and again people complained that "snipers were too far away to kill" ('you don't say...').
So at one point, CCP tightened the red zones overall, and this forced snipers closer to the action. This had many negative side-effects. Aerial red zone was also tightened, so dropships couldnt get out of AA range. Blaster tanks raped everything. There was no where you could spawn, without immediately being within Assault Rifle and Laser Rifle range (in Ambush).
Trying to force snipers to play at closer ranges using the red zone resulted in a very very broken game for them, and many others... and it took months to undo these problems.
That was the entire Chromosome build.

Sniping in Uprising is just 3 notches away from perfect though. First and foremost, the long-range player and object rendering is a BIG issue. Second is, the delay for damage to register when using the sniper rifles at times (though this isn't a consistent problem). Third, it would be very nice to have some ballistics for sniper rifles ala Battlefield 3 (but not necessary since our sniper "rifles" are railguns according to lore).

But overall, snipers have more freedom of movement and more vantage points available to them now, and I am happy to see them flourishing. They can go into distant hills and mountains like they could Pre-Chromosome. And now they can snipe from in and ON the MCC.
I compare MCC sniping to be a cheap shot similar to using a contact grenade, but I don't knock them over it. Much of the hit detection issues at long range seem to have been remedied, so there's no place a sniper can go, that another sniper can't reach. :)

In the end though, I opted to go with an Assault Rifleman role. But I definitely feel a kinship with the snipers in this game. I know what their viewpoint is like.

when i made that sniper suggestion, i myself am a dedicated sniper, i was thinking that sway wouldn't be removed when moving, but toned down a bit. even if it was a strafe gun, the 3-5 bullets would still be it's drawback anyways. I'm just tired of looking around for a perch that is away from combat with no vision. i have to be with my squad in order to snipe effectively and efficently, but they always get in the way of my scope and shots. the way i see it, people want snipers to play at assault ranges and only a few meters beyond it, without tweaking the sniper for such engagement.

what is this? ignorance mode instead of tunnelvision now?

math have just shown you are wrong and I am right, deal with it.

PS: some math lessons would not hurt in your case too.

if the sniper isn't up close as an easy kill.

they want it far away unable to shoot at anything important.


i'm just a guy that's trying to put a resistance on behalf of snipers, and by extension, niche players in general. but if something is problematic, im willing to recognize that. (like forge guns, though i haven't used one since 1.4 so i can't say for certain if there has been any change to it.) the forge gun and it's guaranteed long-range OHK is part of the reason why snipers are in this mess right now actually...

ok how is sniping random players scattered through out the map in the redzone a support role?..


and how is it helpfull if they dont help infantry..or how annoying is it when they are so far away into the redzone its next to impossible to counter snipe them?....

sniping was never helpfull..

the only helpful sniper was the counter sniper taking out enemy snipers..

but because of this the game will quickly turn into a sniper fest...

ccp seems to be trying to prevent the game from turning into an annoying sniper fest...

the sniper should only be able to use that precision to take out ppl in cover...

not dominate the entire field with the safety of not being spotted and shot at......

and seeing how some of those snipers that are reachable by infantry run away the second u start walking towards them while in a slow heavy suit yeah i see plenty reason for why ccp made the new maps the way they are...

ok how is sniping random players scattered through out the map in the redzone a support role?..


and how is it helpfull if they dont help infantry..or how annoying is it when they are so far away into the redzone its next to impossible to counter snipe them?....

sniping was never helpfull..

the only helpful sniper was the counter sniper taking out enemy snipers..

but because of this the game will quickly turn into a sniper fest...

ccp seems to be trying to prevent the game from turning into an annoying sniper fest...

the sniper should only be able to use that precision to take out ppl in cover...

not dominate the entire field with the safety of not being spotted and shot at......

and seeing how some of those snipers that are reachable by infantry run away the second u start walking towards them while in a slow heavy suit yeah i see plenty reason for why ccp made the new maps the way they are...