'D,' it is clear you have an agenda. What weapon do you specialize in?
If you as me, at the rate things are getting nerfed, every weapon may be quite useless. My problem is that CCP seems to be resorting to nerfing. Yet, as it has proven time and time again, nerfing just makes another weapon 'OP,' so to speak.

I use ARs, Scr, Ascr.

can't use anything else. everything else I could use is called a noob weapon and/or is nerfed... so...

I use ARs, Scr, Ascr.

can't use anything else. everything else I could use is called a noob weapon and/or is nerfed... so...

[P6] Conclusions


There are a number of conclusions to be drawn from this. The first is that on paper, the AR does not have notably superior DPS. A large number of weapons exceed it.


The next thing to note is that compared to most weapons, the AR is quite good at applying its damage. Not the de facto best, but it does it very well. This is caused by a combination of range and dispersion/recoil.


The third thing is that it doesnGÇÖt have a major disadvantage. This is in keeping with its status as a GÇÿjack of all tradesGÇÖ weapon.


Looking at the other statistics, only damage application is really that much better than other weapon systems. The raw damage isnGÇÖt exceptional, contrary to popular belief. ItGÇÖs the ARGÇÖs ability to apply that damage that makes it such an effective weapon.



Many think that the AR should be nerfed. I do not support this, at least not in the way that most expect. A raw DPS nerf here is not the way to go - instead, look at the damage application, as thatGÇÖs the area that the AR actually does better than other weapons at.
That includes range, dispersion, and recoil. In particular, I would highlight the recoil as something to be looked at. It doesnGÇÖt apply until halfway through the clip - this isnGÇÖt a good recoil mechanic, as this allows the DPS to be applied constantly throughout the clip.


If the AR is to be brought into line as a versatile weapon that doesnGÇÖt excel, then what it actually excels at should be looked at - in this case, itGÇÖs low recoil. The reason I highlight recoil as a potential solution is partially because excessive dispersion is a terrible mechanic - There is no real reason that you should miss if your aim is perfectly on target. The other reason I see recoil as a better solution is because itGÇÖs something that the weapon is lacking significantly in at the moment - simply tapping the trigger every odd second to completely negate the effects of recoil is not a good recoil mechanic.


TL;DR:
The one area the AR excels in is damage application. If the weapon is to be nerfed, then that is the area which should be looked at. It should also be noted that the ASCR is very similar to the AR.

... in fairness i say any weapon you use is a noob weapon... im not bias

YEAH CCP. listhen to the cry babys, make the full auto AR's just as useless as you did whit the rest of the AR's.

STOP NERFING MY WAEPONS...

FIX the tactial AR's, make it able to hit something, and give it back its 36 round mag. there was never a problem whit this weapon other then the ROF could be abused whit modded controllers and programeble keybords, but still you had to ruin it whit extreme kick, extreme dispersion, and lowewr the clip sice to 18 rounds...
FIX the breach AR's, they are utterly USELESS, you need to fire 2 full clips into someone to kill them now.
FIX the burst AR's this is even worse, its just as hard to hit anything whit this rifle as it is whit the tac AR's and on top of that it does damagd like the breach AR's, THAT SUCKS...

Modded controllers can also be used whit the SCR and it makes it an OP BEAST, try it...
I can get of quite a few shots before it overheats, as the overheat mecanism is based on time and NOT rounds fired.

You even stated that both the SCR and the ASCR dont have recoil, dont have alot of dispersion, they have higher dps, and more rounds in a clip, but you still want to nerf the AR's.

WTF.

Honestly the burst rifle needs its 7 rounds burst back instead of the 3 round burst it was nerfed to.

So if it is proto, it is still noob? Come on, each weapon is useful for one role or another, it isn't worth worrying about the noobs complaining about boundless weapons. They are OP more because of skill or SP than anything else.

i think ive the noticed galente research facility map made wearing full proto useless..
so many ambush points..
on that map and there r ambush points above the ambush points...

killzones and such....

any ways i just say somthing about nerfing an officer weapon?

that is one of the worst ideas i have ever heard...

i think shotgun needs a better grouping of the shots...

but still its very effective in cqc...

just cant do hardly anything at range...

but i think there should be a new variant that gets its damage decreased for better range...

and from multiple battles ive been in lately the imperial scrambler rifle has to be one of the most devastating weapons right now

it destroys in cqc and is very powerful against armor and such...

when fitted properly..

like on an amarr suit..

with the overheat reduction skill maxed it can shoot rapidly for a very long time...

without worry of overheat...

it might be more powerful than the tac ar before it was nerfed...


but aside from that 1.4 in general have given the new players a better chance against the proto bears...and i kinda think it should stay this way...

ive pretty much tried every weapon on here except nova knives...

and i dont mind getting killed while in a free default mlt suit...

im sure the proto bears hate getting killed by everything because they want to be invincible on the game.

and thats all this really comes down to is a person losing proto gear to a better skilled player with less total sp..

thats all it really involves now...

so i find all the nerf ar or certain gun threads quite stupid..

i think im just gonna leave this dum stuff to the noob brigade... or whatever they call themselves now...

and for some actual in game feed back: blaster turrets still seem to have some hit detection problems currently when going against infantry....

... in fairness i say any weapon you use is a noob weapon... im not bias