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Mayor Maynott
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:23:00 -
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This is becoming ridiculous. There are too many redlline snipers in domination out there getting fat. They really don't help their team at all, just themselves and their kdr. I have seem a 60-2 in a domination before, and he lost. It really does suck the rock paper scissors aspect out it if they keep pounding on you and there isn't anything you can do to get him out of there. And on the opposite side, I hate having them on my team, great or not, because that leaves the team on the ground short. If you have too many guys on your team who fancy themselves snipers you lose. I don't care if they go 20-0 they still can't push on an objective, they still can't counter-hack. I understand you have to have a safe place to start/rally, but in Dom it is broken. How about you make the redline unable to be shot through? How could anyone complain about that? Only those who break the game and hide from being chased down and squashed could ***** at that. Maybe a 1 to 2 minute time limit in the red-zone? How about you kill it altogether and let me go chase that little bastard down without a suicide? Something has to be done cause Dom is a little pit surrounded by snipers. I don't want the sniping role taken out of Dust, it i helpful sometimes, but it has no place in Dom. |
Fire9er Greko
Mango and Friends
33
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:26:00 -
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What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:26:00 -
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Where else the **** are snipers supposed to hide? |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1040
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:30:00 -
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Play some skirm |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:32:00 -
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Do you hear that?
Of course you don't. Because its the sound of a sniper laughing way out in the redline. |
Mayor Maynott
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:32:00 -
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You ******* know that it's shooting fish in a barrel
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KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:34:00 -
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its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:53:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks
Post on your main, would you? |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:58:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks Post on your main, would you?
umm what for? |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:00:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks Post on your main, would you? umm what for?
So we know who likes to *****. |
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2572
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:03:00 -
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Fire9er Greko wrote:What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH.
The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions.
If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics. |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:05:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks Post on your main, would you? umm what for? So we know who likes to *****.
umm ok? i dnt see the reason to tell me to get on my main in the first place unless i must hv hurt your feelings in some way :/ |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
214
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:13:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:its better dealing with them than those redline rail tanks Post on your main, would you? umm what for? So we know who likes to *****. umm ok? i dnt see the reason to tell me to get on my main in the first place unless i must hv hurt your feelings in some way :/
We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:21:00 -
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Mayor Maynott wrote:This is becoming ridiculous. There are too many redlline snipers in domination out there getting fat. They really don't help their team at all, just themselves and their kdr. I have seem a 60-2 in a domination before, and he lost. It really does suck the rock paper scissors aspect out it if they keep pounding on you and there isn't anything you can do to get him out of there. And on the opposite side, I hate having them on my team, great or not, because that leaves the team on the ground short. If you have too many guys on your team who fancy themselves snipers you lose. I don't care if they go 20-0 they still can't push on an objective, they still can't counter-hack. I understand you have to have a safe place to start/rally, but in Dom it is broken. How about you make the redline unable to be shot through? How could anyone complain about that? Only those who break the game and hide from being chased down and squashed could ***** at that. Maybe a 1 to 2 minute time limit in the red-zone? How about you kill it altogether and let me go chase that little bastard down without a suicide? Something has to be done cause Dom is a little pit surrounded by snipers. I don't want the sniping role taken out of Dust, it i helpful sometimes, but it has no place in Dom.
This argument is so... so...pointless that I don't know where to begin... Almost everything here said can be twisted around back on basic infantry of every type. If a sniper actually got 60 kills there is no way his team would have lost. Even a noob team can steamroll the opponents if one guy is killing that much... "Snipers cannot push on an objective" is an utter crap statement made by someone who knows nothing of actual combat tactics. If the enemy cannot approach an objective, what does it matter if the person shooting is 20 meters or 200 meters away?
"Because they're not playing MY preferred role everyone else is useless!"--- The basic concept behind this ego-centric post. Having no grasp of the flow of battle will tend to do this.
The only thing snipers cannot do is hack points from a distance. However many people also fail to realize there are plenty of infantry players who never stoop to touching a point, they just kind of hover around it looking for people to shoot. Of course those people are conveniently ignored because they're of the same combat role and they're not as easily singled out for finger pointing when it becomes "convenient".
As for complaining about redline sniping, If you're not willing to learn how to use a sniper rifle to hit people back in the redline (INCREDIBLY EASY TARGETS BTW) then you REALLY DESERVE to get shot every time by those snipers simply because you were too lazy to try and actually get the gear required to deal with the situation.
Again ego-blasters feel it to be somehow blasphemous of their particular weaponistic religion to switch to an alternate weapon scheme as a situation tactically demands. It's laziness at it's highest caliber. You complain on the forums instead of getting a rifle and shooting those sitting ducks right back. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
217
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:21:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Fire9er Greko wrote:What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics. So your team is redlined and you decide to break the blockade. The enemy's all set up along the border, looking for your teammates who're also trying to break out. You crest a hill and use your height advantage to rain death with your AR/SCR/LR/MD and kill 4 enemies and break free. But **** you! No SP because you were in the redline when you did it. Because you had to be. What were you supposed to do, run through them and then turn around?
Also, you know you can still shoot redline snipers, right? You might not be able to run up and melee them, but you can still shoot them. MCC sniping was fixed. |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
2
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:23:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us.
oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily. its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:23:00 -
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How many times has this been brought up? Let them stay there, tis always a joy to put a charge round in there skulls and take thouse thales for my own sick enjoyment. |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
50
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:26:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us.
oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily. its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that[/quote]
I think for some bizarre and illogical reason he has it in his head you've insulted him.... im as lost as you on how you've done that |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:29:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that The part about getting on your main was due to my curiosity.
Its not hard whatsoever to kill a redline rail tank if you have a decent AV user around which apparently nobody does... Most rail-gun tanks are glass cannons that focus on damage over durability and are therefore easy to destroy, hence the term "glass cannon"
If you still don't understand, think of this as a little rant towards people who want to make tanks useless. |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
2
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:29:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that [quote=noob cavman]I think for some bizarre and illogical reason he has it in his head you've insulted him.... im as lost as you on how you've done that
failed troll attempt maybe? |
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Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
216
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:30:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that
Quote:I think for some bizarre and illogical reason he has it in his head you've insulted him.... im as lost as you on how you've done that
Emotions lead to illogical, bizarre, and unreasonable outcomes. |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
2
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:34:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that The part about getting on your main was due to my curiosity. Its not hard whatsoever to kill a redline rail tank if you have a decent AV user around which apparently nobody does... Most rail-gun tanks are glass cannons that focus on damage over durability and are therefore easy to destroy, hence the term " glass cannon" If you still don't understand, think of this as a little rant towards people who want to make tanks useless.
but once they take a hit, they simply get behind the hills to rep and repeat, u could harass em but thats about it, though there are some dedicated suicide AVs on their lavs lol |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
51
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:35:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:noob cavman wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that I think for some bizarre and illogical reason he has it in his head you've insulted him.... im as lost as you on how you've done that
failed troll attempt maybe?[/quote]
Was thinking that but he did come out with a logical answer about how rail tanks are . He could have just worded it less ranty.but as he said emotional responses are not logical. |
KOS-MOS Distant Song
89th Infantry Division
2
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:37:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:noob cavman wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote: We don't want people like you telling us that you should be able to OHK us and then ***** about us adapting and staying away only to start bitching some more because its just a little harder to kill us. oooook, ill just try to translate wat you are trying to say to me and get a grasp of things. im just saying that at least u can countersnipe the redline snipers easily . its harder to kill a redline rail tank for good reasons. oh wait ur not accusing me of being a lazy redline sniper are u? i still dnt get the logical reason of telling me to get on my main. im still alittle lost on that I think for some bizarre and illogical reason he has it in his head you've insulted him.... im as lost as you on how you've done that KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote:failed troll attempt maybe? Was thinking that but he did come out with a logical answer about how rail tanks are . He could have just worded it less ranty.but as he said emotional responses are not logical.
haha quite true ^^ |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
216
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:38:00 -
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KOS-MOS Distant Song wrote: dedicated suicide AVs on their lavs lol
Lol
Those guys are hilarious to watch... at least when you have a competent squad/team. |
Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
587
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:39:00 -
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Redline sniping is a product of faulty map design. Stop giving blatant vantage points that are only located in the redline (*cough* Manus Peak *cough*). And yeah, Railgun tanks are worse cause you can't snipe them back, and when you do manage to hit them with swarms/forge they just retreat and recall/redeploy. |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
51
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:42:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Redline sniping is a product of faulty map design. Stop giving blatant vantage points that are only located in the redline (*cough* Manus Peak *cough*). And yeah, Railgun tanks are worse cause you can't snipe them back, and when you do manage to hit them with swarms/forge they just retreat and recall/redeploy.
Two lavs both full of av will end most red line tank problems |
Fire9er Greko
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:47:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Fire9er Greko wrote:What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics.
what seriously think about that.. |
Slaytanical
Chaotik Serenity
35
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:49:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Fire9er Greko wrote:What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics.
That my fellow merc was very well said and deserving of an allmighty
+2 !!! as i feel a +1 just would not do it the justice deserved. |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
216
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:51:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Fire9er Greko wrote:What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics. So your team is redlined and you decide to break the blockade. The enemy's all set up along the border, looking for your teammates who're also trying to break out. You crest a hill and use your height advantage to rain death with your AR/SCR/LR/MD and kill 4 enemies and break free. But **** you! No SP because you were in the redline when you did it. Because you had to be. What were you supposed to do, run through them and then turn around? Also, you know you can still shoot redline snipers, right? You might not be able to run up and melee them, but you can still shoot them. MCC sniping was fixed.
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