DUST Search - Please kill red-line sniping

Shattered Mirage wrote:

Arx Ardashir wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

Fire9er Greko wrote:

What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH.

The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions.

If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics.

So your team is redlined and you decide to break the blockade. The enemy's all set up along the border, looking for your teammates who're also trying to break out. You crest a hill and use your height advantage to rain death with your AR/SCR/LR/MD and kill 4 enemies and break free. But **** you! No SP because you were in the redline when you did it. Because you had to be. What were you supposed to do, run through them and then turn around?

Also, you know you can still shoot redline snipers, right? You might not be able to run up and melee them, but you can still shoot them. MCC sniping was fixed.


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Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2572	Posted - 2013.09.14 01:03:00 - [1] - Quote Fire9er Greko wrote: What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2574	Posted - 2013.09.14 02:40:00 - [2] - Quote Shattered Mirage wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Fire9er Greko wrote: What are they supposed to do sit in the mcc and strafe back and forth youre not thinking about anyone but yourself and your dominating cronies get a good sniper in your squad and red line sniping will never be a problem DUH. The redlines need to be moved back so opponents can reach the areas snipers like to use. Anyone behind the redline shouldn't get ANY SP at all for their actions. If you can shoot me, but I can't even get to you, that's a problem with basic game mechanics. So your team is redlined and you decide to break the blockade. The enemy's all set up along the border, looking for your teammates who're also trying to break out. You crest a hill and use your height advantage to rain death with your AR/SCR/LR/MD and kill 4 enemies and break free. But **** you! No SP because you were in the redline when you did it. Because you had to be. What were you supposed to do, run through them and then turn around? Also, you know you can still shoot redline snipers, right? You might not be able to run up and melee them, but you can still shoot them. MCC sniping was fixed. You really think the greater of two evils is that occasionally a group of guys won't get that extra 50 WP for a minute or two after they've played so poorly they've gotten redlined? At that point the game is basically over already anyway, and hopefully that team will learn to plan ahead a bit better in the future. And sure, if you happen to have spent weeks skilling specifically into sniping you may be able to countersnipe from your own redline, but it's just as easy for a sniper to slip backwards two steps from the edge just like the tanks do when they get hit. Fixing an obvious problem with "just do it too" isn't good enough, and has led us to the point we are today where every match has multiple head glitching snipers hiding where only the other redline snipers can even attempt to do anything about them.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2578	Posted - 2013.09.14 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: I think something that seems to be overlooked in this argument is that quite often the best sniping positions fall within the redline. I think you'd find people would still be in those positions if the redline was removed or repositioned. Personally when picking a position, the safety of the redline very rarely comes into the decision I completely agree. Snipers aren't the problem, the redline mechanics are the problem. Why are some of the best sniping spots on each map only accessible by one team? It's just ****-poor map design.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2586	Posted - 2013.09.14 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote Redline sniping is a ** mechanic. The fact that this game has multiple CCP nut-hangers trying to justify such a ** mechanic just shows how worthless these forums are. There is no excuse for the current redline mechanics.