dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good.

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good.

Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4

I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills.

Or you and just bitching like a....... *****...?

HTFU mate. You can play this game one of two ways.

For your enjoyment, therefore it doesn't matter if the logi beats out the Assault.

Or play the meta.

I run Milita Tanks, I beat out Gunlogi's and Madrugars all the time.

I run Assault when Im outside the tank. I beat out Assaults, Heavies, Scouts, and Logi's.

I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills.

Doubtful....

You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !!

You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !!

What does my corp have to do with this? Or are you running out of arguments already?

Many people here make it sound like your crosshair is fixed on the enemy with the new aim assist. This is just not the case. You can still miss. What the aimassist does is helping you to keep your crosshair on your enemy. Something K/M-Players can do without any problems even without help, because a mouse is more accurate than a stick.

You serious? I have downed several Heavys, many with Scrams, Lasers and ARs, as a Proto Gallante Logi without damage mods.

Their hitboxs are huge, plus with their slow movement speed, they are mulch if you out strafe them.

The mouse is a stick in Dust learn what emulation is, second if you're missing with aim assist on, I understand why you're defending it...

Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.

But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.

But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed

So... Dust is just a run and gun game where suits/gear and meta squad tactics don't matter..

What 1.4 did was bring the scrubs out of the woodwork that can now go semi positive in a pub because they can finally aim with the aid of a computer no need for experience and meta anymore lets just run from cover to cover auto aiming at each other soubds more like a Wile E Coyote cartoon!!

If anything they matter more now with the bigger maps, quicker kills, and more dynamic and layered sockets.

yeah they matter, as a bigger drain on my team's clone count.

Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

I play Assault and haven't had any problems. I had to adjust my play style a bit because of the aim assist crap, but overall it's pretty much the same. Heavies are much scarier, shotguns are much scarier, and noobs are actually somewhat of a threat now. Just gotta learn to pick your battles a bit better.

The mouse is a stick in Dust learn what emulation is, second if you're missing with aim assist on, I understand why you're defending it...

A bit of exaggeration on my part, but everything does come down to who has the highest EHP and best aim-assisted weapon now.

The Days of Militia Assault Rifles are back again.

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

I know some peeps are getting hammered but i'm convinced it's a playstyle thing. And it's caused by improved hit detection more than Aim Assist.

I'm running exactly the same assault suit i was in 1.3: Mini Adv Assault, 2 cmplx SE, 1 adv Light damage mod, 1 adv sheild reg, 1 adv Armor repper, exile, flaylok, M1 nades, hives. My numbers have actually improved but there's a lot more ducking behind cover and waiting for the recharge.

And no more 'walk of the drunken master' across vast open spaces =( I know it was totally goofy and unrealistic, but i was proud of my skill and covering 150m while under multiple sniper fire was a fun minigame.

Ok as my experiance in 1.3 hit detection was screwy so on average shooting a stationary target 1/3 shots wouldnt conect. Now that hit detection is fixed 19/20 shots will hit, thats over a 30% hamage increase for allot of guns, so yeah thas HUGE.

Now people should die if they arnt moving at a decent speed now, but what if their moving you should still miss a few shots and they wont die as fast right? nope aim asisst drags you along and gets you shots on them as if they wernt moving. meaning everyone is hitting people like they would shooting a sniper in the back.

Now everyone has to brick tank to cross the road, brick tansk arnt fun.

Remove Aimassist, the 32% damage increase across the board would have been enough as is.

Some Food for thought the AR's RoF is 12.5 Rounds per second, and basic AR's (no skill) do around 30 Dam an Duv with Prof 5 and 2 complex damage mods is around 51 dam per bullet

Duv base damage 37.5 * 1.15(Prof 5) * 1.17 (complex dam mods) = 50.456 dam

So it's pretty powerful even at base
31 * 12 bullets in 1 second thats 372 Hit points, more than a Breach MD direct hit, more than a light blaster turret in the same period of time, more than plenty of other things in one SECOND!

Exile AR baby - 34 DMG @ 750 RPM

Not a dime wasted (ISK), no time wasted (SP)

Slap on two or more complex damage mods (the secret of 1.4) and roll.

Remove Aimassist, the 32% damage increase across the board would have been enough as is.

Ok as my experiance in 1.3 hit detection was screwy so on average shooting a stationary target 1/3 shots wouldnt conect.

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

It may not track for you but it sure dose for me, try using a Laser Rifle, its REALLY noticabe when the laser shoots out at a 15 degree angle from the barrle of the gun and follows a target without me moving the gun.

You're wrong, I have two very good Proto shield tankers in my corp, and both of them were kicking as much ass as before. Your reactions are knee jerk at best. Adapt to the changes a little more, then see if you feel the same in a week or too.

+1 this comment I completely agree

Yeah the "wallhack" comment isn't really meant to dis scanners they work as intended just butt hurt that logis are a jack of all trade while assualts and scouts are being chewed up and puked out to the bottom of the food chain...

Soumds like the game became more tactical seeing as your more likability to die now than before when things werent working right.

What happend to adpt or die guys?

Soumds like the game became more tactical seeing as your more likability to die now than before when things werent working right.

What happend to adpt or die guys?

Everyone is busy dying.

Well then its time you get busy adapting!!

And apparently some people are busy defending broken game mechanics because of their lack of foresight.

My lack of foresight? TTK needs lengthening by 20% other than theres is no broken mechanics, just bitter vets who are refusing to live by the very same words they force on noobs every day!!

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

Don't you dare bring up new players into this! I've been on here since Chrome, lobbying for ways to help new players to the point that I was helping them in the academy on alts. (before it got nerfed) I haven't seen you commenting on tutorials, guides, and match making centered topics. Matchmaking was supposed to level the playing field, but when you don't even need to aim thanks to hit box inflation, aim assist, homing bullets- whatever the hell is going on, how are those new players supposed to get better so they can compete with vets?

Well then its time you get busy adapting!!

To be honest the aimbot seemed to be an attempt to fit roles into their roles.
If the assault vs logi was fixed than the suits would be forced to only do what their suit role is.
If Logis had less HP than the only way for them to survive would be with another player. 1v1 would be assault>logi.
The aim assist could turn into a way of forcing roles upon the suits.

1/2 the maps in the game have sufficient cover for this twitch 3 shots and you're dead style and the other 1/2 you're going to be screwed on unless you camp, but you'll still be screwed once you get scanned....

Ok as my experience in 1.3 hit detection was screwy so on average shooting a stationary target 1/3 shots wouldn't connect. Now that hit detection is fixed 19/20 shots will hit, thats over a 30% damage increase for allot of guns, so yeah that's HUGE.

Now people should die if they are not moving at a decent speed now, but what if their moving you should still miss a few shots and they wont die as fast right? nope aim assist drags you along and gets you shots on them as if they were not moving. meaning everyone is hitting people like they would shooting a sniper in the back.

Now everyone has to brick tank to cross the road, brick tanks are not fun.

<-- snip --> the 32% damage increase across the board would have been enough as is.

The only problem are logis. Tell me now one logi that dont run assault logi (maybe few in PC...). All goes scanner, duvolle, comp dmg mods,totall 700ehp...they can also fit repping hives and what you will do to best that repp his armor 100\s shooting at you with 50dmg per bullet....

And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...

No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...

There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..

With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...

Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..

I dont run an AR as a logi - but Im not getting killed by logi suits, its by a number of huge damage per second weapons, super accurate shots hitting me on the run and at long ranges; coupled with lag hit delay making cover hard to judge.

>This is down to logis not having the bonuses, ccp are working on it!
While this is happening, Im in a holding pattern, I suppose everyone is.

Dust - 'come back in a month and see if its got better'

I don't understand, for the past god knows how many patches the only viable suit was assualt suits pretty much but when people mentioned the fact all we got was "get good" "HTFU" or "Adapt or Die" now that other suits are now viable and competative you make this post?

The real question is what would you like the response to be? "get good?" since EVERONE benefits from AA, the only real issue is how you play the game. "HTFU" perhaps? You maybe spending to much time in the open rather than getting to cover..or shall it be "Adapt or Die" People are hitting each other easier, perhaps tho flanking tactics will help? Or maybe you should think about how open are you leaving yourself in the current situation when you go for a kill?

dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good.

Some people want aiming to require skill. The current aim assist is just socialism, something that shouldn't exist in a game of this nature.