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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:48:00 -
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And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1717
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:59:00 -
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dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:03:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good.
Yeah the "wallhack" comment isn't really meant to dis scanners they work as intended just butt hurt that logis are a jack of all trade while assualts and scouts are being chewed up and puked out to the bottom of the food chain... |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
483
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:05:00 -
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actually running as a heavy is not a good idea, we get taken down easily by exile AR's now that aim bots are in place. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4793
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:07:00 -
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Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4 |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
124
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:08:00 -
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M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. You're wrong, I have two very good Proto shield tankers in my corp, and both of them were kicking as much ass as before. Your reactions are knee jerk at best. Adapt to the changes a little more, then see if you feel the same in a week or too.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1691
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:09:00 -
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M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. Or you and just bitching like a....... *****...?
HTFU mate. You can play this game one of two ways.
For your enjoyment, therefore it doesn't matter if the logi beats out the Assault.
Or play the meta.
I run Milita Tanks, I beat out Gunlogi's and Madrugars all the time.
I run Assault when Im outside the tank. I beat out Assaults, Heavies, Scouts, and Logi's.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
551
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:09:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good.
I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
124
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:10:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4 You serious? I have downed several Heavys, many with Scrams, Lasers and ARs, as a Proto Gallante Logi without damage mods.
Their hitboxs are huge, plus with their slow movement speed, they are mulch if you out strafe them. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1451
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:11:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. I am Sgt Kirk and I approve this post. |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. Or you and just bitching like a....... *****...? HTFU mate. You can play this game one of two ways. For your enjoyment, therefore it doesn't matter if the logi beats out the Assault. Or play the meta. I run Milita Tanks, I beat out Gunlogi's and Madrugars all the time. I run Assault when Im outside the tank. I beat out Assaults, Heavies, Scouts, and Logi's.
Doubtful....
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:14:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills.
You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1691
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:16:00 -
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M McManus wrote:True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. Or you and just bitching like a....... *****...? HTFU mate. You can play this game one of two ways. For your enjoyment, therefore it doesn't matter if the logi beats out the Assault. Or play the meta. I run Milita Tanks, I beat out Gunlogi's and Madrugars all the time. I run Assault when Im outside the tank. I beat out Assaults, Heavies, Scouts, and Logi's. Doubtful.... Happens all the time. I'm no 21+/3 player but my Soma's pack a punch and running with my squaddies nets me plenty of good kills. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1691
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:18:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !! Post on your main then if you're so l33tz0rz |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
553
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:19:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !!
What does my corp have to do with this? Or are you running out of arguments already?
Many people here make it sound like your crosshair is fixed on the enemy with the new aim assist. This is just not the case. You can still miss. What the aimassist does is helping you to keep your crosshair on your enemy. Something K/M-Players can do without any problems even without help, because a mouse is more accurate than a stick. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:22:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:M McManus wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !! What does my corp have to do with this? Or are you running out of arguments already? Many people here make it sound like your crosshair is fixed on the enemy with the new aim assist. This is just not the case. You can still miss. What the aimassist does is helping you to keep your crosshair on your enemy. Something K/M-Players can do without any problems even without help, because a mouse is more accurate than a stick.
The mouse is a stick in Dust learn what emulation is, second if you're missing with aim assist on, I understand why you're defending it... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4798
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:26:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:Cosgar wrote:Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4 You serious? I have downed several Heavys, many with Scrams, Lasers and ARs, as a Proto Gallante Logi without damage mods. Their hitboxs are huge, plus with their slow movement speed, they are mulch if you out strafe them. A bit of exaggeration on my part, but everything does come down to who has the highest EHP and best aim-assisted weapon now. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:26:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:M McManus wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:dont hate on scanners, aim assist it too good. I think it's more like that the matchmaking is too good. I tried aim assist. It's just an assist, like it should be. But apparently all proto stompers can't bear the thought that they now have actualy enemies to fight against who have some aimingskills. You're too funny, especially coming from scrubreddit, you don't need aiming skill in 1.4 Dust does it for you !! What does my corp have to do with this? Or are you running out of arguments already? Many people here make it sound like your crosshair is fixed on the enemy with the new aim assist. This is just not the case. You can still miss. What the aimassist does is helping you to keep your crosshair on your enemy. Something K/M-Players can do without any problems even without help, because a mouse is more accurate than a stick. The mouse is a stick in Dust learn what emulation is, second if you're missing with aim assist on, I understand why you're defending it...
OMG so true and so funny.
M+KB in dust isnt raw input LOL its joystick emulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
there goes one of the only legit counters against the evil M+KB abusers |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1246
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:30:00 -
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Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4798
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed 1/2 the maps in the game have sufficient cover for this twitch 3 shots and you're dead style and the other 1/2 you're going to be screwed on unless you camp, but you'll still be screwed once you get scanned.... |
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Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
44
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:35:00 -
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M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. .. they are far from worthless... i still see ppl doing good with them |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:37:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed
So... Dust is just a run and gun game where suits/gear and meta squad tactics don't matter..
What 1.4 did was bring the scrubs out of the woodwork that can now go semi positive in a pub because they can finally aim with the aid of a computer no need for experience and meta anymore lets just run from cover to cover auto aiming at each other soubds more like a Wile E Coyote cartoon!! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1692
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:39:00 -
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M McManus wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed So... Dust is just a run and gun game where suits/gear and meta squad tactics don't matter.. What 1.4 did was bring the scrubs out of the woodwork that can now go semi positive in a pub because they can finally aim with the aid of a computer no need for experience and meta anymore lets just run from cover to cover auto aiming at each other soubds more like a Wile E Coyote cartoon!! If anything they matter more now with the bigger maps, quicker kills, and more dynamic and layered sockets. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1728
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed So... Dust is just a run and gun game where suits/gear and meta squad tactics don't matter.. What 1.4 did was bring the scrubs out of the woodwork that can now go semi positive in a pub because they can finally aim with the aid of a computer no need for experience and meta anymore lets just run from cover to cover auto aiming at each other soubds more like a Wile E Coyote cartoon!! If anything they matter more now with the bigger maps, quicker kills, and more dynamic and layered sockets.
yeah they matter, as a bigger drain on my team's clone count. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1696
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:58:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Bangs head on desk. Man 1.4 really highted people who are bad at dust. The op is basically complaining that he does not know how use cover. Or correctly work how to engage diffrent targets.
But keep going with ur playstyle but don't QQ that running madly into fire is getting u killed So... Dust is just a run and gun game where suits/gear and meta squad tactics don't matter.. What 1.4 did was bring the scrubs out of the woodwork that can now go semi positive in a pub because they can finally aim with the aid of a computer no need for experience and meta anymore lets just run from cover to cover auto aiming at each other soubds more like a Wile E Coyote cartoon!! If anything they matter more now with the bigger maps, quicker kills, and more dynamic and layered sockets. yeah they matter, as a bigger drain on my team's clone count. Whatever be as cynical as you want but today I had some of the most dominating games ever primarily because our squad was running flanks all over the place, air cav when we could, and the guys were saving my tank from AV by clearing the building I drove past.
12+ game not a single loss, not a single enemy team broke the red lining we set up. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
720
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:08:00 -
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I think it is terrible that CCP has made this game so that you can't just bunny hop through an entire team..
This has actually made the game better, people are rolling in squads, being forced to breach objectives, not just roll through them. logis have their roles strengthened, tho IMO logi needs the ability to see all of his squad's HP.
I agree the aimbot is odd, and it does lock hold a target too good, but we all can turn it on/off, meaning you can make use of it as much as your enemy can. 1.4 has done wonders for this game for me, just livened things up and made it just a whole lot more fun. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1016
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Heavy w/AR > Logi suit in 1.4 Nope. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
604
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:30:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden.
Change is a double edged sword. One build you may have the beat suit (cal assault has been king in chrome and 1.3), but now it is not. Shields were far superior and now they are not. Adapt and overcome. I had to spend 500,000 SP to stay competitive in this build.
Your favorite gear will not always be good, nor will it always be bad.
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KingBabar
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1122
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:39:00 -
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M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..
I can regen 600 Hp in about 12 seconds with my proto caldari assault suit, which is kind of great since I take alot more damage on average now than before. I am actually able to fight off guy nr 2 shortly after killing dude nr 1, that is very hard to do with a logi suit even with both a proto energizer and a proto regulator.
But yes, I never understood why they removed that second equipment slot off the proto assault suits, its made the game more bland and boring for the assault players and more or less "everyone" use a logi suit these days in CBs. Its a shame. |
NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
411
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:39:00 -
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M McManus wrote:And basically all assualt suits and under, because in order to get anything done in 1.4 it feels like you need a logi or heavy suit... Especially as an aggressive player/play style...
No point in using Shield Regulators or Energizers or tactical low slot modules, dampeners etc.. Because with everyone turning instant pro overnight (via aim assiat and hit boxes the size of my fat exwifes ass) you can't stay alive long enough to benefit from them...
There is no point in running scout or assualt because of the lack of low and equipment slots especially when logi suits are running around with an auto aim AR, 900ehp and a wallhack aka Active scanner..
With 1.4 CCP has single handedly screwed up a tactical gear based shooter and turned it into a FOTM lobby shooter were your expensive choices no longer matter unless you can afford to spec into logi/heavy...
Correct me if I'm wrong especially on the part about shield regulator or energizers and tactical low slot modules. ..
Caldari Assault has been screwed since open Beta. What we use as Proto Caldari ckO is no where near the actual Caldari AR suit. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think we have seen much Caldari AR suit QQ threads.
Caldari ck0 is almost the same as Caldari Assault B Series. With limited CPU!!! PG and missing slots. But yet people go around saying caldari AR is OP and god mode. I'd like those people to get into one and see how it feels to be a Caldari AR user. Logi's have been FOTM no Flavor of the game. Not because they do any logi work. Simply because they need stacked ehp to survive.
I know there's no point in saying all these. But with aim assist and noob mood, this game is really turning into **** |
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