oh no, another one of these threads

I'm trying to stay as unbiased as possible here and give my own personal account of swapping from m/kb to controller back and forth for every round in the last 24 hours. And for comparison's sake (before calling me "just a noob who can't aim), I've consistently had good recent run in Dust, and come from a long history of mainly playing FPS with my friends on PC (counter strike, the battlefield series, unreal tournament, team fortress, etc.)

So...

After the ump-teenth time I was beat out at point blank by a frontline assault-militia AR suit, while my mouse seemed to actively fight away from my target or having someone easily get away when I have the jump on them, with them standing still, crouching, at medium/close range. As soon as I start shooting, all they have to do is step to the left or right, then when I attempt to track, my sights jump from left to right pretty wildly. Every round I played, I had something in the range of a 0.75:1 K/D. What I figured I'd do is try out my controller to see how I'd fair.

With the controller, bearing in mind I am not a console FPS player at all, my first round I went 12-1 (the 1 was a random forge gun hit). My first encounter in that match? I chased a guy up a flight of steps, he turned to shoot at me, I threw my sights up and watched it track, with me not touching the right stick, right to the center of his body. Then he began to strafe, and again, without me even touching the right stick, the iron sight just followed him perfectly.

Over the last 24 hours I've played enough rounds to just about cap-out, the entire time jumping between my mouse and my pad to see if its just me, or if what's going on is totally ridiculous. Turns out, its totally ridiculous. Every fight with the mouse is about a coin flip, at best. Most of the fights with the pad are almost a sure win, which makes sense given that I have an assault suit with a ton of extenders and damage mods. In both cases, the idea of retreating is out the window because no matter how hard of a target I attempt to make myself, nearly every single bullet being fired in my direction manages to connect.

What I'm curious about is the amount of people who think this is good. Or that "m/kb is finally balanced." Which, if you look at the leaderboards, its not riddled with m/kb players, which leads me to think that the input style was pretty well balanced to begin with. And I can say that while playing other Team Players in matches (or ******* around in no-show PC matches), who I know use pad, they managed to usually beat me, or put up just as good of a fight as my mouse was putting out.

Also, if you feel that it is finally "balanced", but you're only a pad player, try plugging in any old usb mouse/keyboard and play a few rounds, just to see how you do. Even if you don't think you'll do good just because its a style you're not used to, keep in mind I did the same with the DS3 and found myself doing better than my preferred controls.

I've tried all kinds of different sensitivities with the mouse, but for some reason its nearly impossible to track anybody. It almost feels like a reverse aim-assist.

Keep in mind, this isn't a big QQ thread. Its just an observation of where the game is right now. Which is basically "everyone is all of a sudden a top FPS player, you all get gold stars, we're all winners here, even you new guys."

And I want to say that I'm still baffled that CCP hasn't fixed the long existing "flowy" feeling mouse controls. They've been busted since Uprising first dropped.

How convenient no pics or anything

I wish you'd have done a few rounds without Aim Assist. A few of us DS3 players don't use it... we die a TON to those who do, but still...

However I noticed most of my deaths came from fighting people with better gear, I didn't face nearly as many MLT noobs as I did pre 1.4.

I can't comment on native mouse sensitivity

Why would I intentionally play with that off? I was wondering why I was all of a sudden a bullet magnet. I'm also not sure why anyone would play with it off. Outside of "pride" or whatever. Which has no place in a game when you're trying to win.

I've never died from so much militia gear. Even when I first started in this game, in militia gear, I never died so often from that dang AR.



My mouse has its own dpi control to help have more control, on top of the game's 1-10 style sensitivity controls. I've tried about a dozen different set ups today, none of them are that good. The best bet is sticking on the low end to help the totally wonky tracking, but then turning around takes about twice as long as a pad.

I've tried all kinds of different sensitivities with the mouse, but for some reason its nearly impossible to track anybody. It almost feels like a reverse aim-assist

so use a DS3?

Nemo, Our background, experience, and results of kbm vs ds3 experiments are virtually the same. Well said, sir....Lead

so use a DS3?

...the only reason I play this game is for the m/kb controls. There are a ton of better PS3 FPS out there, that I still wouldn't like, because they don't have native m/kb support.

FPS with a controller is playing a fighting game with a controller instead of a fight stick. Its just 'not right.'

...the only reason I play this game is for the m/kb controls. There are a ton of better PS3 FPS out there, that I still wouldn't like, because they don't have native m/kb support.

FPS with a controller is playing a fighting game with a controller instead of a fight stick. Its just 'not right.'

Anyone notice that he has 514 likes? Code. Cracked.

Ccp made the controller OP.

Id have to agree with Lead, my experience was spot on.. I haven't set down and used the DS3 in possibly years for a console shooter I believe it was Gears of war I actually tried to put in some time on a controller...

That being said, you would think I would be awful with the DS3 I picked it up yesterday using an AR and went 16-1 my first match and like 20-6 the next..

If i try to use the AR with the mouse its almost impossible and im guessing that's because the way CCP has the mouse emulating a virtual joystick and I have years of experience with the KB/M I've only used the KB/M to play competitive shooters for going on 15yrs now..

Like I said in other threads im not trying to be egotistical or a KB/M elitist (Just giving you some background) but something is not right with the KB/M, im sure here soon, or as im typing this we will get the console fans coming aboard and saying that's because the KB/M shouldn't be used on the ps3..

Well CCP is supporting it, and if they are wanting to keep the KB/M audience something needs to be done, because IMO the KB/M hasn't been right since Chromosome..

And that something that CCP should do IMO, should be raw input especially now that the DS3 has such a good aim assist there is no reason not to get rid of the virtual joystick and go straight KB/M...

Been using mouse since chromosome, just switched to controller last night...

There's no reason to use a mouse in this game anymore, it doesn't benefit from the insane aim assist and the ADS on mouse is completely destroyed. the hip fire is questionable too.

Ccp made the controller OP.

...the only reason I play this game is for the m/kb controls. There are a ton of better PS3 FPS out there, that I still wouldn't like, because they don't have native m/kb support.

FPS with a controller is playing a fighting game with a controller instead of a fight stick. Its just 'not right.'

So you are saying aim assist hurts kbm, how did you do without it? I think I missed that

So you are saying aim assist hurts kbm, how did you do without it? I think I missed that