Did you try ds3 again?

Oh hai u must be new...
I in fact started playing shooters with mouse before thumb aiming was a thing. I hate that the standard is to leisurely sit on your couch and let a game mechanic aim for you. The console makers had to cater to casual gamers such as yourself which ruined true FPS gameplay. It's not as simple as " if u like mouse go to PC". That market gets expensive... Fast and you have to deal with hackers most often. This game offers a solution to those problems and you kids want to go off on your "thumbs or else" rants instead of going to any / every other game on ps3 that does not offer mouse users this unique opportunity. The mouse is supported by ps3 natively (check accessory setting) and im glad CCP is breaking the mold and "trying" to give players like me who have only used a controller as it was intended ... To play super Mario...

oh no, another one of these threads

I'm trying to stay as unbiased as possible here and give my own personal account of swapping from m/kb to controller back and forth for every round in the last 24 hours. And for comparison's sake (before calling me "just a noob who can't aim), I've consistently had good recent run in Dust, and come from a long history of mainly playing FPS with my friends on PC (counter strike, the battlefield series, unreal tournament, team fortress, etc.)

So...

After the ump-teenth time I was beat out at point blank by a frontline assault-militia AR suit, while my mouse seemed to actively fight away from my target or having someone easily get away when I have the jump on them, with them standing still, crouching, at medium/close range. As soon as I start shooting, all they have to do is step to the left or right, then when I attempt to track, my sights jump from left to right pretty wildly. Every round I played, I had something in the range of a 0.75:1 K/D. What I figured I'd do is try out my controller to see how I'd fair.

With the controller, bearing in mind I am not a console FPS player at all, my first round I went 12-1 (the 1 was a random forge gun hit). My first encounter in that match? I chased a guy up a flight of steps, he turned to shoot at me, I threw my sights up and watched it track, with me not touching the right stick, right to the center of his body. Then he began to strafe, and again, without me even touching the right stick, the iron sight just followed him perfectly.

Over the last 24 hours I've played enough rounds to just about cap-out, the entire time jumping between my mouse and my pad to see if its just me, or if what's going on is totally ridiculous. Turns out, its totally ridiculous. Every fight with the mouse is about a coin flip, at best. Most of the fights with the pad are almost a sure win, which makes sense given that I have an assault suit with a ton of extenders and damage mods. In both cases, the idea of retreating is out the window because no matter how hard of a target I attempt to make myself, nearly every single bullet being fired in my direction manages to connect.

What I'm curious about is the amount of people who think this is good. Or that "m/kb is finally balanced." Which, if you look at the leaderboards, its not riddled with m/kb players, which leads me to think that the input style was pretty well balanced to begin with. And I can say that while playing other Team Players in matches (or ******* around in no-show PC matches), who I know use pad, they managed to usually beat me, or put up just as good of a fight as my mouse was putting out.

Also, if you feel that it is finally "balanced", but you're only a pad player, try plugging in any old usb mouse/keyboard and play a few rounds, just to see how you do. Even if you don't think you'll do good just because its a style you're not used to, keep in mind I did the same with the DS3 and found myself doing better than my preferred controls.

I've tried all kinds of different sensitivities with the mouse, but for some reason its nearly impossible to track anybody. It almost feels like a reverse aim-assist.

Keep in mind, this isn't a big QQ thread. Its just an observation of where the game is right now. Which is basically "everyone is all of a sudden a top FPS player, you all get gold stars, we're all winners here, even you new guys."

And I want to say that I'm still baffled that CCP hasn't fixed the long existing "flowy" feeling mouse controls. They've been busted since Uprising first dropped.

Each "test" you performed in uncontrolled environment is not reliable - and that's it .

I'm not a console FPS player, but I am a PC m/kb player.

How is it possible that I out-do myself, consistently, by using a control scheme that I never use over the one I grew up playing FPS on?

I must be such a natural.

Each "test" you performed in uncontrolled environment is not reliable - and that's it .

...the only reason I play this game is for the m/kb controls. There are a ton of better PS3 FPS out there, that I still wouldn't like, because they don't have native m/kb support.

FPS with a controller is playing a fighting game with a controller instead of a fight stick. Its just 'not right.'

K/M users AKA PC fanboys. If you guys don't like Aim assist on a console then GTFO. Go crawl back to your PC.

Spoken like a true d*ck head

Just another "this is fine, so is m/kb" denier.

You must be one of the PC fanboys, so i'll tell you this either learn how to use a controller or go cry back to your PC.

You must be one of the PC fanboys, so i'll tell you this either learn how to use a controller or go cry back to your PC.

K/M users AKA PC fanboys. If you guys don't like Aim assist on a console then GTFO. Go crawl back to your PC.

There's lots of people who play fighting games with controller. Yes most of the pros use fight sticks but there are some who use controller. It's not as wrong as you think. There is no gamer rule book that says FPS is only played on KB/M

I found that if you turn Aim Assist off in the DS3 options it makes using the mouse more fluid for me.

You must be one of the PC fanboys, so i'll tell you this either learn how to use a controller or go cry back to your PC.

my point is if its that bad for KBM at the moment use the DS3 - you have one

CCP have already said KBM controls will get looked at/ reworked for 1.5

To your last point. tbh, i dont think they should have put KBM into this game. They should have stuck with one input device - DS3 as its a console. It would have made CCPs life easier

As a KB/M user myself I do agree something is off. Initially started playing Dust with the controller, but I've always sucked at FPS using those. I've always done better with a KB/M due to it's just what I'm used to. Now, while my abilities with a KB/M are better then anything using a controller it hasn't made me great. My KDR only went up about .15 to .20 . This was pre-1.4, today i got completely stomped and I was using KB/M.

the mouse simply do not behave like it should....

I'll have to concur with many KB/M users in this thread. Something is way off. Sure the AA is raping me, I expect that, but I should be able to track manually as good (like I used to) with my mouse.

I have a 5600 DPI (variable) mouse and tried all kinds of DPI settings, then tweaked the sensitivity in the game settings all to no avail. Going 2/32 (yeah as a scout) was just too much **** for me.

The only thing I have noticed is on my logi char I enabled "Mouse Smoothing", which "seemed" to help, but I need to test more to be sure.

Would be nice to get a response from a Dev on the plans for kb/m..