I think you're in for a rude awakening when you go assault in PC

Meh less heavies to worry about

I'm going to go with the following..

1) You're wrong
2) Heavies are in a way better place, and FAR more competitive now than pre 1.3
3) I'm absolutely destroying people with far superior gear in CQC and (now, excitingly enough) mid range. Even in my basic, BPO suit.
4) Heavies have far superior HP, especially with the armor buffs. That means in the current meta of 'Stand and Deliver', heavies can take more punishment and win the gun fights far easier.
5) The new terrain - which has far more cover and routes for heavies to close the gap to CQC and Mid Range - allows heavies to dictate range and fight on preferable terms far better than before.

Heavies are far more competitive now. I've seen drastic increases in not only my effectiveness, but KD:R(As if that crap mattered). If you're giving it up, good luck. But to me, it sounds like you're doing it for all the wrong reasons.

EDIT: Oh, and I cant forget..
6) They removed our turn speed restrictions and reduced armor plate movement penalties! That's *HUGE*

The heavies in my corp are loving 1.4 a lot. They say their bullets are land ing a lot better and moving a bit quicker. And with these new maps in pc heavys will be vital. Very cqc, especially when theres letters underground... Engaging heavys is all positioning, i have been getting slaughtered by heavies cqc and locked down from getting letters because of them. Which isnt a bad thing, thats what theyre for. I think a lot of heavies try to assault and that always ends badly for them.

No range buff needed.

CCP simply needs to correct our bullet dispersion so our gun can actually work as intended.

OP = agreement on all accounts.

I've also stopped playing my Heavy. Using the HMG is just gambling on whether or not the enemy is using an AR, and the Forge Gun became stale now that people are starting to properly fit tanks (yea, i admit it. Its more fun for me popping unsuspecting low fit tankers then spending 10 minutes chasing down the single properly fitted tank to "hopefully" kill. Damn you Ted Nugget!)

Hopefully CCP squeezes the Heavy Laser into one of the patches in a few months.

But then again, this is just experience in pubs from going up against squads who's corporations are actively participating in PC, and not actual PC matches, so my opinion can be taken with grain of salt.

But If they aren't around i tend to do quite well against noobs. Doesn't make it fun though (minus the tanks, I'm sorry! but with my frustrated experience against good tankers throughout my dust career, i do enjoy blowing up a noobs shiny toy every now and then ^_^)

No. All the HMG's have the same bullet spread as far as I can tell.

The longer range HMG shoots peas at enemies. The dmg is so low lol

Not because anything got buffed or nerfed. Simply because now people can aim better, and hit detection is allot better especially for AR's.

Heavy HMG was fine before 1.4, and in pubs it will still be fine...hell, even in PC a good heavy can still be decent....but an AR player will do better with less effort. Because of how the AA works now, ARs can out DPS HMGs in a CQC fight when the AR players strafe. The DPS of HMG is calculated with the thought of every bullet hitting the target. Bullet spread decreases the DPS drastically, and also when a heavy tries to strafe, the accuracy penalty increases. So in order for a heavy to try and land shots,to increase his potential DPS, he needs to be a sitting duck.

ARs on the other hand, from what I've seen while playing with them, I can dance around, jump, strafe and I'm still hitting my target with dead on accuracy, making the AR's DPS insane.

The HMG aim assist doesn't work as good as it does on ARs...and tbh, I don't know if there's any because I don't feel a difference.

I'm finished with being a heavy HMG player. All I have is a basic Proto Gallente and I've been doing pretty good with it. When heavy players realize they're getting outgunned by ARs more often, and they realize ARs > HMGs you'll start to see less, and less heavies, while the number of AR users go up.

Already I'm seeing less MDs. And tbh, as a heavy they would kill me no problem. As a Gallente AR user I eat them up.

At this point, I don't have the heart to be making thread after thread on the matter. I'm having fun with the AR. But I know this unbalance is bad for the game. I hope CCP reads this, and take a look at heavies and scouts again. ARs are eating everything up on the battlefield with little effort. Is it fun? Hell yes! It's not fun for the people that are using something else though.

Note: I'm not calling for a buff / nerf for anything. I'm not asking that AA be removed. I'm asking that CCP take a look at heavies and scouts. The introduction to AA and improved hit detection really shows how weak these classes are against ARs.

FoTM is finally going back to the Assault Rifle, with Laser Rifles following in 2nd position (haven't seen allot yet, but the number of users are increasing.

I've found them a bigger target personally

Bigger heads, bigger hitboxes + AA and my ability to jump and strafe.

I mean if people want to continue playing heavies, cool. The moment they step out of a pub game and face a good organized team, is the moment people see how weak the heavy is.

Honestly, I just run at heavies now. If he's alone, he's dead. And the funny thing is, i'm no beast assault player.

Ran a MLT heavy with a LvL 1 basic HMG, killed tons and tons of AR users in CQC with the HMG.

best ways to use heavy,

1: have logi bro watching your back
2: city fights!
3: use LAV to get you between city fights.

Aim Assist applies to HMG as well, so the grounds are even

Hi Lance - this is SoTa. And we don't agree. I'm constantly doing better then most slayers in PC still. And that's with 13ear and Regynum on my side.

HMG rox harder then ever in city side.

There is no problem with my HMG, there must be something wrong with yours.

Sure i get taken down by a duvolle now and then, but only when im flanked, outnumbered or shot in back. Never one on one. Even with my standard HMG.

same. my HMG works fine. went 36/5 on a tight quarters map. have to choose when to use it cause it's not good on all maps. my only issue with it is it needs a little more range.