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Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 561	Posted - 2013.08.29 09:14:00 - [1] - Quote Swarm Launchers Cost the same as small turrets of their tier AV Grenades Cost the same as small turrets of their tier Forge Guns cost the same as large turrets of their tier. The other benefits of the tank or suit are paid for by buying the tank or suit.
Nguruthos IX Vagina Bombers 1200	Posted - 2013.08.29 09:16:00 - [2] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Swarm Launchers Cost the same as small turrets of their tier AV Grenades Cost the same as small turrets of their tier Forge Guns cost the same as large turrets of their tier. The other benefits of the tank or suit are paid for by buying the tank or suit. Sounds fair.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1115	Posted - 2013.08.29 09:17:00 - [3] - Quote +1
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1150	Posted - 2013.08.29 09:21:00 - [4] - Quote very very fair especially considering i hear infantry moaning about how isk is useless and they never worry about going full proto all the time
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:14:00 - [5] - Quote Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 956	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:17:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING.
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 561	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:18:00 - [7] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. Forge Guns?
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 956	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:20:00 - [8] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. Forge Guns? Yeah, that one is the problem... i agree it should cost allot more ISK, since they seem to be good at EVERYTHING too. But all the other AV weapons are very restrictive.
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 111	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:21:00 - [9] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. The turret comes with 5000-10000 eHP (and immunity to snipers) and the AV with 300-600 eHP being very vulnerable to everything. Except forge guns which most accept as being slightly OP.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:27:00 - [10] - Quote Cant wait for the medium and heavy aerial vehicles to come into the game, thats REALLY gonna **** HAV jockeys off I look forward to the "Wahhhhhh they should cost 10M because they are good at their intended role and drop bombs and stuff waaaahhh "
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1158	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:30:00 - [11] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Yea cause a hand grenade does more damage than a vehicle mounted weapon.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1158	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:31:00 - [12] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. Forge Guns? Yeah, that one is the problem... i agree it should cost allot more ISK, since they seem to be good at EVERYTHING too. But all the other AV weapons are very restrictive. you call homing swarms and av nades restrictive?
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1158	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:32:00 - [13] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Cant wait for the medium and heavy aerial vehicles to come into the game, thats REALLY gonna **** HAV jockeys off I look forward to the "Wahhhhhh they should cost 10M because they are good at their intended role and drop bombs and stuff waaaahhh " unless i have an AA turret
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 957	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:34:00 - [14] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. Forge Guns? Yeah, that one is the problem... i agree it should cost allot more ISK, since they seem to be good at EVERYTHING too. But all the other AV weapons are very restrictive. you call homing swarms and av nades restrictive? Swarm launchers can only lock into Vehicles and Installations, and so do AV nades ...so yes... restrictive.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 502	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:35:00 - [15] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah... small problem with you logic ... AV weapons only kills Vehicles .. turrets kills EVERYTHING. Forge Guns? Yeah, that one is the problem... i agree it should cost allot more ISK, since they seem to be good at EVERYTHING too. But all the other AV weapons are very restrictive. you call homing swarms and av nades restrictive? I shall support!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1294	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:36:00 - [16] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: very very fair especially considering i hear infantry moaning about how isk is useless and they never worry about going full proto all the time The ones moaning are the ones who don't run full proto all the time and instead use BPO fittings
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 728	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:36:00 - [17] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret???
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1159	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:39:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: very very fair especially considering i hear infantry moaning about how isk is useless and they never worry about going full proto all the time The ones moaning are the ones who don't run full proto all the time and instead use BPO fittings i love my BPOs and use them extensively as i still dont have a pilot suit. i have all the skinweaves, all the drens, all the militia BPOs, the merc pack stuff, etc... gives me a nice nice ability to toy with fun stuff without caring too much about being competitive or losing money on top of the high costs of tanking.
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 114	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:43:00 - [19] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal.
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 563	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:44:00 - [20] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. Tanks need infantry homing grenades.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 274	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:44:00 - [21] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. This
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1159	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:46:00 - [22] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. we are talking about av nades dude. Obodiah Garro wrote: This you too
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 114	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:46:00 - [23] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. Tanks need infantry homing grenades. The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1159	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:48:00 - [24] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead. lol you dont even need to point. your swarms and av nades do all the work for you
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 116	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:49:00 - [25] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. we are talking about av nades dude. Then I agree somewhat with the lai dai grenades. Remember the squishy clone has to get up close to hit with the AV grenade. You have three turrets on the tank and active scanners, should be easy to avoid unless you go solo in your tank and drive around in the red blob thinking you should be invincible in the metal fortress.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 274	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:51:00 - [26] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead. lol you dont even need to point. your swarms and av nades do all the work for you Yea dont need to aim SL or nades, one of these days am gonna read one of your posts that make sense and my head will explode.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1159	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:51:00 - [27] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon. Hell by your logic why dose a hand grenade do more dammage than a small missile turret??? Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal. we are talking about av nades dude. Then I agree somewhat with the lai dai grenades. Remember the squishy clone has to get up close to hit with the AV grenade. You have three turrets on the tank and active scanners, should be easy to avoid unless you go solo in your tank and drive around in the red blob thinking you should be invincible in the metal fortress. dont just assume that every tank has a scanner and use it as part of your argument here man. If you are putting yourself in harms way to get those lai dais off you are doing it wrong. hiding behind a short wall is perfect tactics and railings somehow stop tank fire unless you take the time to aim through the bars.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1159	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:52:00 - [28] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead. lol you dont even need to point. your swarms and av nades do all the work for you Yea dont need to aim SL or nades, one of these days am gonna read one of your posts that make sense and my head will explode. what a terrible condition.....
Kekklian Noobatronic Goonfeet Top Men. 329	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:53:00 - [29] - Quote AV is on-par with hand-held weaponry of it's class. Proto/ADV/STD infantry weapons across the board are on-par with their peers. The community as a whole needs to stop looking at the pricing of infantry weapons, and start attacking the true foe: the pricing of vehicle modules. People would have way more fun if their tanks were reasonably priced.
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 116	Posted - 2013.08.29 10:54:00 - [30] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead. lol you dont even need to point. your swarms and av nades do all the work for you You are aware how useless swarm launcher clones are against other infantry? If one tanker provokes the opposite team to spawn with 4 swarmers, that makes it 15 clones vs 12 clones. And your tank is still lethal to everything red on the field, where the swarm launchers can do little but try and target the tank. Maybe the tanker ends up hiding most of the game, but you have accomplished a big advantage for your team.

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