Yea cause a hand grenade costs the same as a vehicle mounted weapon.

Yeah, that one is the problem... i agree it should cost allot more ISK, since they seem to be good at EVERYTHING too. But all the other AV weapons are very restrictive.

Cant wait for the medium and heavy aerial vehicles to come into the game, thats REALLY gonna **** HAV jockeys off

I look forward to the "Wahhhhhh they should cost 10M because they are good at their intended role and drop bombs and stuff waaaahhh "

The ones moaning are the ones who don't run full proto all the time and instead use BPO fittings

Very limited range, very limited ammunition and easy to avoid unless you spend 2 seconds cooking it first. And all infantry have access to the grenades making them equal.

This

The proto blaster already kills my 700eHP clone in less than a second, no need for homing grenades as everything you point at is dead.

Then I agree somewhat with the lai dai grenades. Remember the squishy clone has to get up close to hit with the AV grenade. You have three turrets on the tank and active scanners, should be easy to avoid unless you go solo in your tank and drive around in the red blob thinking you should be invincible in the metal fortress.

Yea dont need to aim SL or nades, one of these days am gonna read one of your posts that make sense and my head will explode.

You are aware how useless swarm launcher clones are against other infantry? If one tanker provokes the opposite team to spawn with 4 swarmers, that makes it 15 clones vs 12 clones. And your tank is still lethal to everything red on the field, where the swarm launchers can do little but try and target the tank. Maybe the tanker ends up hiding most of the game, but you have accomplished a big advantage for your team.

No, he have a point, most tanks i shoot at they don't move when they see me shooting at them.. is a bit like... " Ha,ha ! look another AV loser " ... To they realize that i packing ADV Swarm Launcher with Complex light damage modules, and a ADV Plasma Cannon to break through their shields... then they run as hell when they see their shields dropping almost instantly.

+1

Wait for the rage of a 500k FG and a 360k swarm launcher/av nades

The difference is the price of the suit. You would need to go full proto if you have to add both advanced AV and an advanced sidearm making your fit very expensive. The AV'er normally adds damage mods making him very vulnerable to close quarter combat which all sidearms are aimed at. Being in a 200k isk suit with only a SMG as main weapon, and it is not even proto or have any damage mods. Yes, you could balance it with a better sidearm and less damage on the AV, but then you would not be able to archive much against anything but milita and standard stuff.
The consensus on this forum sounds like it is proto AV with damage modules that are needed against LLAV vehicles and skilled tankers unless you can get up close with nano hives and lai dai grenades. The AV grenade clone should be avoidable, there is a huge risc on the clone trying to get up close.

360k for a Swarm Launcher ? just to be kill by a red-line sniper in a couple of shoots ? or a scout with a Militia Shotgun .. or a MD with a couple of nades ? yeah... i can see how that will work perfectly ... nearly a 450k Dropsuit wasted "TRYING" to kill a tank.

I doesn't matter how you try to look at it .... tanks don't get kill by a sneaky scout with a Shotgun, or an annoying red-line sniper packing light damage modules ... suggesting that a hand-held weapon should cost nearly as much as a tank, is the most ridiculous thing i hear in this forums.

You know how easily Scouts die ?... you just have to look at them with evil eyes and they die. For every time a Scout kills a tank it dies about 4 or 5 times in the process... 400k x 4 = 1,600,000 isk ... that is allot of ISK for 1 tank kill.

And how many KILLS that tank gets ? 30-40 kills ? How much ISK it gets at the end of the battle ? You suggesting that spending 1,600,000 isk for ONE kill is acceptable ?

Implying tankers are supposed to be solo-viable and profitable.

Three Proto Swarms Coordination is a PUB match ?.. yeah.. like that happens often ..First you need THREE Proto Swarm Launchers in the same team... Then some type of communication.. like.. 3,2,1 SHOOT...

Even Corps will find that hard in a PC battle.. to many variables... So is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE in a PUB match.

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I'll just add the one nerf and not add the other multiple buffs...

yeah cuz a hand gernade does more damage than a vehicle mounted weapon...