I cant solo them with a Proto Forge gun

Oh, it's job of running ppl over? I think it will still be able to do that without the eHP.


I have yet to know what an LLAV's job is other than murder taxi.

I too will preach the use of a light transporter on a buffer Gunnlogi. Ridiculous defense, ridiculous offense.

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But i can bet ANYTHING, i've shot twice in a row a ''Char'' LLAV with my Prof 3 Kaalakiota Forge gun and they just drive away.
I dont have any reason to lie.

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Must be a horribly fitted Chary.
Or you know? You are just lying.

Either does not affect how unkillable those things are ATM....

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lol, wants to 1 shot a vehicle. I see the LLV's being slightly slower, and they accelerate slightly slower, but from how you're sounding, you want them to have HAV speed, in which I lol at. And the terrain , it's called putting a slight lead. And to get a decent shield regen, you can't have a 70% resistance. About a 45-50% (that's with the damage reduction from the FG)

So yes, it's is your **** poor aiming. Like I said, I've killed LAV's, SLAV's, AND LLV's with a MLT FG, so how can you NOT kill them with a OP PROTO FG? Your **** aim. lol


-I dont want to 1 Shot Anything. But a LAV so fast should be able to b destroyed with 2 shots.
-I dont know if the acceleration part its true. But if it is,i dont think it really changes anything.
-I dont want them to have HAV speed, thats you talking. But i dont want them to have SCOUT LAV speed either.
-50% its still, a . LOT.
-I understand you dont like me, and you dont have to. I think you're a pretty Lame person and im not interested in what you think of me. But dont talk about my aim because i dont miss with my FG at all. And i've hit LLAVs twice, and they dont die, and then they drive away,out of my reach...ITs not my aim. As you said it, if YOU can kill stuff with a MLT FG, then I can do that even better. The fact these LLAVs survive and get away proves how resilient they are. In any case. Im actually NOT requesting a nerf for LAVs.If they do so i will have less stuff to shoot at. I only hope they have the speed they are supposed to.

Because even using swarms is too hard for you. Can't protostomp with Wiyrkomis in your hands.

It's currently so hard to find a match, where there aren't 4 people with swarms and forge guns.

Some people even spawn with swarms.


Logi lavs become so common and overpowered that people had to get proto av nades and swarms and forge guns just to try to deal with them. Now that all these people have AV equipment they just pull them out and insta destroy a tank.


1.5 better be good for tanks, because 1 and every 5 guys has proto AV now.

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I didnt contradict myself. When did I?

There is nothing wrong with someone spawning with AV dude......its called playing as an AV user....

It was a problem before with not enough people playing as AV and not having that role fulfilled by people in the match, so vehicles were able to run uncontested, obv leading to infantry QQ

Rather, the problem we have now is there is no need for an AV role, since every suit, regardless of their fitting can equip baseball nukes that shred vehicles for 1 isk, has a skill that gives them every type of grenade and doesnt even have a high multiplier, locks on, and even sits on the ground if you miss with the homing feature, so its a mine too

AV grenades as they are currently ingame is simply a bad game mechanic. Vehicle users no longer care about whether or not someone has a AR or forge gun in his hands, everyone has the potential to put out over 7k damage in 2 seconds.

A similar problem was with the TAC AR during its heyday. It had tank-busting dps and even though ARs are supposed to be the jack of all trades, master of none, it did it all even in other weapons' and suits' strong ranges and it was stupid to use anything else.
no point having a specialized role if everyone can do it.....

.......... wut? Yea, English isn't your first language all right. Fixed

Ok its very clear you dont like me. Cool, i dont like you either.
Leaving that aside....



BUT you are telling me you SERIOUSLY THINK, LLAvs are balanced then >..>

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Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

I'm seriously not even sure what to say to this. I mean really, such reasonless insults. What are you trying to accomplish other than getting on people's block lists?

or do what i do... just ram them. no wp but still kills them and the LLAV

Logi LAVs are ******* ridiculous. I swear their shield recharges and HP is much more than a tank. Plus they are much faster.

your funny... there is no way to passive tank on either tank right now. just w/o the extender it would take 2+ minutes get my shields back. boosters save me long enough to get out and live. hell to passively tank one shot from a proto AV would take a minute to get it back.

Lol you're still doing it wrong.

I'm quite sorry I ever preached the idea of Proto Type tanks, really.

Whilst I understand you and the problems you face as a Tanker, Prototype tanks would create a massive imbalance, something I massively against. You, me and every Tanker in this game wants prototype tanks for a reason, so we can be very powerful and lord over the peasants, I dare a single Tanker to prove me wrong.

We just need to sit tight and play it smart, let the Infantry fools and the AV scrubs come at us, recall your vehicles and be the biggest menace, but do not blame the LLAVs for this, this was going to happen but thankfully these were here to speed it up in time for a much needed fix.

And for those fools demanding a nerf, Vehicle, AV and Infantry, you are all morons. A LLAV needs its tank, not everything must be nerfed through making it weaker to balance it, it must have proper measures taken to restrict its killing power and we must also look at making it more beneficial to kill using the turret (Since LLAvs suffer with a -50% Damage reduction), once properly restricted, take measures to ensure its value on the battlefield as an Infantry and Vehicle support vehicle and its tank will be justified.

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Idk i dont have problems with av i still pub stomp like a boss with my tank... when i use it

AV is part of the game. I've received hate mail from 'AUR' tank users for destroying their real money tanks. Do you want us to let you kill us over and over again without at least trying to kill you? If so, you're definitely doing it wrong. If your tanks are being destroyed quick, or you can't take out the infantry destroying you quick enough, perhaps you weren't meant to be a tanker.

You just contradicted yourself, and misunderstood me.... Are you tired or something? Wait, no, you're drunk. Go to bed.

Now let's see:

- You clearly said "I can't 1-2 shot a LLV with my PROTO FG. Therefore, you want to do this.
Well maybe not 1 shot, but 2-3 shots SHOULD be enough to take a shield LLAV out. COUNTING repairs and REsistances , I've literally shoot the same LAV about 4-5 times in a small time window and he still had enough HP to leave my FG range area....

- Yes, it does. Tested, and is confirmed. I said it could be lowered even more. Well we agree on something for a change.

- If you didn't specify. That's what feedback is all about. bad feedback is what you did.
You cant expect EVERY single person in the face of the earth to explain themselves perfectly through a language its not even their native one. I spend enough time using the st*pid auto correct so that my messages dont look like unreadable.
So im very sorry if i couldnt make myself clear.

- With skills, If a had the Adv. AFG against my Limbus, not counting a repairer (some fits don't have a built in one), it takes takes about 4 shots, and I'm not even at pro. skill for FG (I'm still at lvl4 for FG). In 5 seconds, I could think of deifferent positions I would be in to take it on, and how I would take it on. ALl require a steady hand, and patience, and counting skills, which you apparently don't use/don't have. I think you should find another role, because this really isn't suited for you.
Well i think you are mistaken. Im very precise with my FG. I can HIt infantry at max range (im talking actually hitting, not killing with splash damage and an assault FG), And i've taken a LOT of tanks out and Dropships. If i can actually kill a tank but not an LLAv i know something is wrong. So dont worry about my role, i fulfill it pretty well.Plus im not a Forge gunner only, i also play scout and dedicate myself to take objectives and spam uplinks.It really depends on what my team needs...

Oh, and and if you can do better than me using a MLT FG, whyy aren't you killing LLV's like crazy with your PROTO FG?
Well, lets say what you are saying is true, YOU DO KILL LLAVs with 3000 shields,damage resistances AND regen modules.Then i really think you are talking about any random noob with this machine. It is just NOT possible to drop a good player with a militia FG unless they are mentally challenged. Me (I use Kaalakiota FG, Prof 3, Damage mod 1): 1st shot, hit.The LLAV looses a little under -+ shield damage.Activates shield regen.2nd hit: leaves the LLAV with almost no shield,but still has about a 1/6 to work with, while moving as fast as possible to leave my range.3rd hit, if hit,it leaves the LLAv on fire,sadly he will be already too far away for a 4th shot. So explain me how can YOU kill a LLAV with a MLT FG unless , the driver is not driving the LLAV or again, he is mentally challenged? Again, Tanks are a Different story, if they are misplaced they get ravaged by Forge guns, but thats the lack of mobility talking....