DUST Search - Both sides need to chill tbqh

Soraya Xel wrote:

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it.

Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it.

Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now.

why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho?
it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry.

Ah, but see, you're back on 'sell', and that's not what I suggested. Just dump them. You know EoN doesn't need the ISK, and nobody can fault you for reattacking them later.

Why is the United States responsible for fixing every wrong in the world? It involves being the most powerful country with the largest military. And that nobody else is in a position to do anything about it. Except CCP. But you don't really expect CCP to do squat, do you?

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Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4113	Posted - 2013.08.28 12:38:00 - [1] - Quote Srsly guys its a game jeez Part of the reason i dont come on here as much is because ppl take this game so damn srsly + too much QQ EoN vs CRONOS war was alot more classy with more New Eden-ish trash talk an such. It was funny, not ppl braggin about RL paychecks or trying to insult ppls rls or just ur typical fps trash talk banter "OMG GIT GUD SCRUB" sort of bs Guys need to realise it works both ways, u also helped create some of the current attitude alot of EoN has. No one in EoN ever had ill intentions about anything we were actively trying to help the community and for a long while we were the only ones doin it ppl got mad/salty cuz they got attacked by us and started QQing then the whole EoN forum hate began. As i told the fine gentlemen that i had a chat with from the FEC last night alot of EoN feels like this "wow we try to help ppl and this is how ppl wanna complain and moan because we lookin for a simple fight? ** the community why do all this if this is the reaction we get for HELPIN when no one else gave 2 * about indies etc" Also MOST the QQ makes no damn sense at all. Half the ppl that want districts cant even field a single 16 man team for it. Heard corps like MassTerror with like 9 ppl wanna hold 5 districts when they shouldnt even have one. Thats the sorta bs i dont get from the community, everyone wants districts kool and we hand em out to corps that actually field their own 16 and put up a decent fight that we feel they wont get insta wiped after we sold em one because THAT pushes ppl away knowing these small indies finally muster up some cash get a district then lose it in their 1st defense. Take a look at corps like Pradox One and Contact Hunters. Pradox apparently gave a good showing vs TP when they fought em and TP has been assisting them gettin them setup in PC. I recently fought a corp called Contract Hunters in this joke of a tourney by UF and they impressed the outta me cuz i never heard of em and dont even see em on the forums....after game 2 of tourney i hit them up sayin gg and if they ever needed or wanted to get setup in PC hmu THIS is a good way to get done. Too many ppl want handouts and tbqh not capable of taking care of themselves but come on here and QQ and to be fair alot of EoN also come on here and stir the pot a bit too much as well. Lastly we are technically at "war" so ppl have to expect we will play within the means of the game (not glitchin, cheatin etc) to win. We've been in 2 wars...this our 3rd , any smart General will tell u u dont fight on ur enemies terms but try to force em to fight on urs. And as i told the FEC guys EoN rep wont be improving to those involved in the FEC simply even if we do anything good for the community it wont ever be enough because ultimately the QQfest wont end unless we disband simply because we're the strongest alliance and that aint happening. anyway just needed to air some ** out. carry on gents.
Ser Tarlon United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 36	Posted - 2013.08.28 12:47:00 - [2] - Quote Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4116	Posted - 2013.08.28 12:57:00 - [3] - Quote Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 822	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:01:00 - [4] - Quote I almost read that but then thought, I don't really care. QQ'ing about people QQ'ing, good job.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 717	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:04:00 - [5] - Quote Good point, hell this has went too far might as well, I mean this has went way too far, but both sides are at it's amazing what anonymity does to people myself included. Sorry if I went too far an pissed anyone off.
sL1p-k-NOT United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:09:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: QQ'ing about people QQ'ing, good job. Look at the heading from this topic. Relax first and let us look what happen in the next days
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 191	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:09:00 - [7] - Quote GÇ£Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.GÇ¥ -Carl Gustav Jung
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 961	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:10:00 - [8] - Quote I respect you for setting up EoN they way you have. CCP said they want this game to be about smaller corps rather than larger corps (zergs) and EoN is set up with this perfectly in mind. After the war with Cronos it was fairly obvious that EoN was going to dominate Molden Heath. Cronos was gone for the most part, Negative Feedback was gone for the most part and there just weren't any powerhouse alliance left that could challenge EoN. There were a few corps that might have been able to challenge EoN if they had an alliance to back them up. Corps such as HS, OH and RND, but these corps can't fight EoN on their own (OH and RND were both absorbed into EoN though, with OH out of EoN again at this point). HS tried to assemble an alliance with LoI that could challenge EoN, but IE wasn't the same at this point, and Hellstorm couldn't do it by themself. After the failed LoI attempt there just weren't anyone left that could truly challenge EoN and thus EoN are dominating all of Molden Heath. Is this EoN's fault? In my opinion it is not, at all. It is not their fault that this game sucks as much as it does. It is not their fault that they're the only really competitive alliance left in Molden Heath. There's a few fairly competitive corps left, but against a perfectly set up EoN alliance they just stand no chance. EoN have my respect for setting up the alliance the way they did, but they did lose some of that respect when they (or at least TP) started to lock their own districts. No matter the reason I just see that as foul play and it is certainly something that I expected EoN wouldn't resort to. EoN isn't at fault for farming ISK, the bad design of PC is at fault for that. I still believe that PC should've never been implemented, and CCP should take a step back and really consider what they want to do with this game.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 200	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:11:00 - [9] - Quote That chronos war was really brutal. People actually used creative tactics and strategy. Now it is pretty much get all your forges and mass drivers on the towers. Back when our vets actually cared about PC. those were the funnest PC's battles. especially fighting WTF. those guys would throw me for a loop and make me scramble to find a counter to their tactic. Now almost every PC i get messages saying "getting burnt out yet?". Right now we are only using PC to train our newer guys and show them how PCs are fought. My vets however want to take up being mercenaries to change up a little bit. doing our best from leaving this game again.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 717	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:12:00 - [10] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Good point, hell this has went too far might as well, I mean this has went way too far, but both sides are at it's amazing what anonymity does to people myself included. Sorry if I went too far an pissed anyone off. This is not to say that I am not still against EoN but I don't think making an ass out of myself will help, just beating them in combat...

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1033	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:13:00 - [11] - Quote I wouldn't sweat, I don't think this is personal. It's a game and you guys are winning it. What do you expect?
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 75	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:25:00 - [12] - Quote Personally, I don't think either sides need to chill, no-one needs to QQ, no one needs to QQ about QQ, no one needs to not attack, no one needs to give people ** or expect to be given **. This is war, like you say. Everyone will fight it in their own way, let them. AE use an exploit here, EoN exploits the game just as much by attacking their own district. But honestly who gives a flux anyway? MDs, Forge guns, and basically anything explosive/spammable rule PC. It ain't our fault, not much we can do about it, so might as well just get on with the god damn war and stop being so precious everyone!
fahrenheitM Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 431	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:33:00 - [13] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh. This is hte problem of having a small sandbox and such a small community to begin with. You lose 1 group here and 1 group there, it adds up.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4118	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:39:00 - [14] - Quote fahrenheitM wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh. This is hte problem of having a small sandbox and such a small community to begin with. You lose 1 group here and 1 group there, it adds up. BINGO! now is that OUR fault? ppl on here sure seem to act like its our fault that grps leave thus further tippin the balance in another direction
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 373	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:45:00 - [15] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: fahrenheitM wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh. This is hte problem of having a small sandbox and such a small community to begin with. You lose 1 group here and 1 group there, it adds up. BINGO! now is that OUR fault? ppl on here sure seem to act like its our fault that grps leave thus further tippin the balance in another direction I would like to see the FEC and and all anti-EoN blaming us for that too
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 388	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:45:00 - [16] - Quote Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now.
fahrenheitM Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 432	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:55:00 - [17] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: BINGO! now is that OUR fault? ppl on here sure seem to act like its our fault that grps leave thus further tippin the balance in another direction Nope, not at all.... this game (PC) is still in its infancy, just a few short months. And the community has been downsized drastically... That's overall design flaws, period. Can't fault anyone for "playing the game".
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4121	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:00:00 - [18] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry.
fahrenheitM Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 432	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:05:00 - [19] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. Goosefraba bro.... Goosefraba.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 374	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:05:00 - [20] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days

sL1p-k-NOT United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:09:00 - [21] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days Yeah NAV HIV, i think that too. Or the design from pcq must changed.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 389	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:14:00 - [22] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. Ah, but see, you're back on 'sell', and that's not what I suggested. Just dump them. You know EoN doesn't need the ISK, and nobody can fault you for reattacking them later. Why is the United States responsible for fixing every wrong in the world? It involves being the most powerful country with the largest military. And that nobody else is in a position to do anything about it. Except CCP. But you don't really expect CCP to do squat, do you?
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 375	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:20:00 - [23] - Quote sL1p-k-NOT wrote: NAV HIV wrote: I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days Yeah NAV HIV, i think that too. Or the design from pcq must changed. May be they should remove ISK completely from PC. Rather allow us to make weapons, vehicles, modules and so on. People would stop QQ about farming ISK then. When PC started we spent few hundred million from our own wallets to keep fighting and to gain what we gained. We played in pubs in mlt gear to grind isk, donate to the CORP wallet and launch attacks for 80 mil per clone pack. (No Re-ups) total waste of 150 clones. needed to attack 3 times or even 4th if they have 10-12 clones left. that's over 320 mil to take a district (Given that you win all of those) .... Now tell me who should start QQ threads for PC being too cheap?
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4123	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:21:00 - [24] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. Ah, but see, you're back on 'sell', and that's not what I suggested. Just dump them. You know EoN doesn't need the ISK, and nobody can fault you for reattacking them later. Why is the United States responsible for fixing every wrong in the world? It involves being the most powerful country with the largest military. And that nobody else is in a position to do anything about it. Except CCP. But you don't really expect CCP to do squat, do you? i never meant sell as in sell districts sorry for confusion i meant sell clones off
Superhero Rawdon High-Damage 91	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:26:00 - [25] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: sL1p-k-NOT wrote: NAV HIV wrote: I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days Yeah NAV HIV, i think that too. Or the design from pcq must changed. May be they should remove ISK completely from PC. Rather allow us to make weapons, vehicles, modules and so on. People would stop QQ about farming ISK then. When PC started we spent few hundred million from our own wallets to keep fighting and to gain what we gained. We played in pubs in mlt gear to grind isk, donate to the CORP wallet and launch attacks for 80 mil per clone pack. (No Re-ups) total waste of 150 clones. needed to attack 3 times or even 4th if they have 10-12 clones left. that's over 320 mil to take a district (Given that you win all of those) .... Now tell me who should start QQ threads for PC being too cheap? NAV in militia gear? i call bullllllllllllllshhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 389	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:26:00 - [26] - Quote Ah, okay. Well, nobody can fault you for retaking something you gave away in the first place. I think the biggest problem, is if someone buys a district, we expect the people we bought it from not to retake it by force. (Or at least, in New Eden, while such a thing is not assured by any means, it affects reputation.) I mean, it takes three days for someone to make back their investment on the clone pack and then some.
fahrenheitM Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:26:00 - [27] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: i never meant sell as in sell districts sorry for confusion i meant sell clones off Forgive my ignorance (been out of this side for awhile), but taking a district by Clone Packs... letting it fill out as say a cargo hub, then selling once full... would you even stand to turn a profit at that point?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 717	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:27:00 - [28] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days Want to start a petition? I'll support it and I bet that some others might too... I know that Kain has stated this, I wonder what others think...
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 389	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:29:00 - [29] - Quote I don't think PC needs to be removed (though income from it needs to be massively nerfed). But corp battles need to be an option, so that we can practice FOR PC. Instead of trying to make mini-sandboxes inside PC.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 375	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:37:00 - [30] - Quote Superhero Rawdon wrote: NAV HIV wrote: sL1p-k-NOT wrote: NAV HIV wrote: I honestly want them to remove PC and bring back Corp Battles. That way we can fight each other properly, all day, everyday without QQ and get better. Good ol days Yeah NAV HIV, i think that too. Or the design from pcq must changed. May be they should remove ISK completely from PC. Rather allow us to make weapons, vehicles, modules and so on. People would stop QQ about farming ISK then. When PC started we spent few hundred million from our own wallets to keep fighting and to gain what we gained. We played in pubs in mlt gear to grind isk, donate to the CORP wallet and launch attacks for 80 mil per clone pack. (No Re-ups) total waste of 150 clones. needed to attack 3 times or even 4th if they have 10-12 clones left. that's over 320 mil to take a district (Given that you win all of those) .... Now tell me who should start QQ threads for PC being too cheap? NAV in militia gear? i call bullllllllllllllshhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit Trust me Raven Assult suit + Exile + Cheap sht modules and a lot of pub matches = isk for corp and other newer corp members



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