DUST Search - Both sides need to chill tbqh

Soraya Xel wrote:

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it.

Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it.

Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now.

why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho?
it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry.

Ah, but see, you're back on 'sell', and that's not what I suggested. Just dump them. You know EoN doesn't need the ISK, and nobody can fault you for reattacking them later.

Why is the United States responsible for fixing every wrong in the world? It involves being the most powerful country with the largest military. And that nobody else is in a position to do anything about it. Except CCP. But you don't really expect CCP to do squat, do you?


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Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4113	Posted - 2013.08.28 12:38:00 - [1] - Quote Srsly guys its a game jeez Part of the reason i dont come on here as much is because ppl take this game so damn srsly + too much QQ EoN vs CRONOS war was alot more classy with more New Eden-ish trash talk an such. It was funny, not ppl braggin about RL paychecks or trying to insult ppls rls or just ur typical fps trash talk banter "OMG GIT GUD SCRUB" sort of bs Guys need to realise it works both ways, u also helped create some of the current attitude alot of EoN has. No one in EoN ever had ill intentions about anything we were actively trying to help the community and for a long while we were the only ones doin it ppl got mad/salty cuz they got attacked by us and started QQing then the whole EoN forum hate began. As i told the fine gentlemen that i had a chat with from the FEC last night alot of EoN feels like this "wow we try to help ppl and this is how ppl wanna complain and moan because we lookin for a simple fight? ** the community why do all this if this is the reaction we get for HELPIN when no one else gave 2 * about indies etc" Also MOST the QQ makes no damn sense at all. Half the ppl that want districts cant even field a single 16 man team for it. Heard corps like MassTerror with like 9 ppl wanna hold 5 districts when they shouldnt even have one. Thats the sorta bs i dont get from the community, everyone wants districts kool and we hand em out to corps that actually field their own 16 and put up a decent fight that we feel they wont get insta wiped after we sold em one because THAT pushes ppl away knowing these small indies finally muster up some cash get a district then lose it in their 1st defense. Take a look at corps like Pradox One and Contact Hunters. Pradox apparently gave a good showing vs TP when they fought em and TP has been assisting them gettin them setup in PC. I recently fought a corp called Contract Hunters in this joke of a tourney by UF and they impressed the outta me cuz i never heard of em and dont even see em on the forums....after game 2 of tourney i hit them up sayin gg and if they ever needed or wanted to get setup in PC hmu THIS is a good way to get done. Too many ppl want handouts and tbqh not capable of taking care of themselves but come on here and QQ and to be fair alot of EoN also come on here and stir the pot a bit too much as well. Lastly we are technically at "war" so ppl have to expect we will play within the means of the game (not glitchin, cheatin etc) to win. We've been in 2 wars...this our 3rd , any smart General will tell u u dont fight on ur enemies terms but try to force em to fight on urs. And as i told the FEC guys EoN rep wont be improving to those involved in the FEC simply even if we do anything good for the community it wont ever be enough because ultimately the QQfest wont end unless we disband simply because we're the strongest alliance and that aint happening. anyway just needed to air some ** out. carry on gents.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4116	Posted - 2013.08.28 12:57:00 - [2] - Quote Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4118	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:39:00 - [3] - Quote fahrenheitM wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ser Tarlon wrote: Well, to be honest, owning most of the districts in MH doens't looks like helping the community. But on the other side, now there is a war, and there is pretty much action in PC, so it's kinda hard to say you were destroying the game or something like that true. again only reason we own so much was because it was to keep ppl active and since no one was attackin us others went lookin for fights. Spoke to the FEC guys about this as well last night, ppl dont understand how many times or how many of my corps i had to advise NOT to fully wipe out ppl, hell i even stopped attackin ppl and sacrificed corp activity due to boredom so that i dont continue removing ppl. Literally no one was attackin us then so ppl had to find entertainment cant blame anyone tbh. This is hte problem of having a small sandbox and such a small community to begin with. You lose 1 group here and 1 group there, it adds up. BINGO! now is that OUR fault? ppl on here sure seem to act like its our fault that grps leave thus further tippin the balance in another direction
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4121	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:00:00 - [4] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4123	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:21:00 - [5] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mavado, I've said it over and over: We don't blame you, but you could be doing more to fix it. Why sit on 140 districts? If you just want simple fights: Win the fights, sell off the clones, abandon the district, and let others fight over it. Helping the community isn't reducing the effective size of the map they can play on. Helping the community isn't selling districts back to people at an inflated rate like CUBS is doing now. why do ppl always wanna dump that responsibility on us tho? it wont make a difference, we sell off someone takes we end up coming lookin for a fight again take it , ppl cry , we still in the same boat as we in now with too much crying and not enough pew pewing. The community still needs to fix itself 1st cuz no matter what we gonna look like the "bad guys" or "bullies" even if we just simply lookin for a fight because someone sees they attacked by an EoN corp they go cry. Ah, but see, you're back on 'sell', and that's not what I suggested. Just dump them. You know EoN doesn't need the ISK, and nobody can fault you for reattacking them later. Why is the United States responsible for fixing every wrong in the world? It involves being the most powerful country with the largest military. And that nobody else is in a position to do anything about it. Except CCP. But you don't really expect CCP to do squat, do you? i never meant sell as in sell districts sorry for confusion i meant sell clones off
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4140	Posted - 2013.08.28 18:28:00 - [6] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I don't think PC needs to be removed (though income from it needs to be massively nerfed). But corp battles need to be an option, so that we can practice FOR PC. Instead of trying to make mini-sandboxes inside PC. Both the cost of clones and the revenue from clone sales should be nerfed. The fact that it hasn't really shows how far out of touch CCP is with it's playerbase. They see all these corps falling apart and stuff and get semis from the New Eden misery, but they fail to realize that many people that bailed after PC burnout haven't come back. If the cost of PC was dramatically reduced it would take a lot of pressure out of the situation. It would just be about fights. For them to even consider such a costly game mode at this stage of development and no Eve connection was pretty naive. CCP already reduced the costs, its the new reduced costs that have ppl now QQing that TP locking their districts and still make a profit. CCP doesnt think when they do **. They reduced the cost of clone packs with all good intentions but didnt plan for a situation of what would happen if one group had a ** load of land could they still make bank on it. Also ppl wanting the costs reduced need to get real, stop being cheap. EoN came into PC prob one of the poorest alliances. SyN only had about 400M in corp wallet to start PC lol. Sometimes ppl gotta understand that maybe PC is just not for u PC shouldnt be a noob playground, FW is what needs improving so it serves as a middle ground between pubs and PC and a way for corps who not in PC to make some bank to fund their PC ambitiions.