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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1047
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Posted - 2013.08.29 04:18:00 -
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19/2 in one match tonight. One kill using MD, the rest using AR or SMG. Still got mail about LOL MD. Use what you want. Don't worry about their opinions. I'm still thinking about training more into Flaylock because it comes from the Matar Motherland. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
439
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Posted - 2013.08.29 05:08:00 -
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True yet not true, buy itself it may suck but last night some dude from RND went 19/0 with the core on a minmatar assault mk0 , so I tested the theory an use my mini med advanced frame that only has 3 high instead of 5 an put 2complex side dams to add to my proficiency 3 faylock an I went 15/3 with under 300 shields so I imagine with pro 5 an 3side dams you could probably wreck most suits in two shots, one for shields an the killshot, not really my play style but had to test its effectiveness mon the less |
superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
59
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Posted - 2013.08.29 05:17:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:superjoe360x wrote:They basically killed all flaylocks except for the core. A slight buff to the basic and advanced flaylock is needed in terms of splash radius. I was very accurate with the flaylocks and now its hard even for me to hit stuff with an advanced. I couldn't imagine the standard bro. Sorry to break your heart but the AR abusers go their wish and the nerf hammer fell a touch to hard. Don't waste your SP and go to the typical SMG like almost everyone else.
Its ok for the SMG to be ran as a main weapon and to have the power and damage but if any explosive device has any sort of stopping power ppl complain. Fact is they don't like getting blown up because they were not paying attention while ARing ppl to death. Nor do AR users like to take the high ground. They also run in packs. All these things make auto AR guys a MD and Flaylock users dream kills.
I love when I get hate mail from AR abusers. Ill go work for a bit to secure me some high ground and put in effort just to have some non tactical lazy AR guy complaining about how he got killed a bazillion times by the stupid no aiming MD or Flaylock guy that's above his head. Yet they will keep walking underneath me and they will keep complaining on the forums but they will most likely never put the effort forth to come and get me. So question is why if someone has great tactics do you come on here and complain when you didn't even try to kill me probably. I'm a scout an all u gotta do is close ur eyes an shoot a explosive weapon in a random direction an somehow ill die Lmao agreed they need to buff scouts you guys are casualtys of things you cant even help. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
184
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:10:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:calisk galern wrote:who cares?
short of nova knives their isn't a weapon in this game that isn't bitched about. Also, the plasma cannon. You will never hear anybody say "f-ing plasma cannon nub" Actually ... not true. I have a corp mate who has gotten hate mail twice ... both times for killing somebody with the plasma cannon Seriously? I can't be angry if I get killed by a plasma cannon or nova knife, as a matter of fact, I will send some love mail next time it happens.
I will try to kill you with my Plasma Cannon, would be pretty cool to get a love mail |
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
291
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:18:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:calisk galern wrote:who cares?
short of nova knives their isn't a weapon in this game that isn't bitched about. Also, the plasma cannon. You will never hear anybody say "f-ing plasma cannon nub" Actually ... not true. I have a corp mate who has gotten hate mail twice ... both times for killing somebody with the plasma cannon Seriously? I can't be angry if I get killed by a plasma cannon or nova knife, as a matter of fact, I will send some love mail next time it happens. I will try to kill you with my Plasma Cannon, would be pretty cool to get a love mail Well thats just it, people can't get angry when they're slayed by really hard to use weapons like the plasma cannon. If you want some real "love mail" sit on a roof with a forge gun or 1 shot an expensive dropship with a wirkomi breach forge gun w/ complex damage mods & proficiency 3+. WOOO do i have a collection of "love mail" hahaha. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:26:00 -
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bonkersfox wrote:I don't think you can use anything other than a basic ar without getting shouted at.
DONT USE-
mass driver flaylock forge gunners, remote exp laser rifle contact grenades or lav
I think everything else is acceptable..
why do you care what people say.. if you weren't killing them, they would be killing you.
damn i forgot about the melee, you cant do that either |
reydient
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
94
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:49:00 -
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O yes, I have gotten quite surgical with the plasma cannon- Kill Feed says reydient " plasma cannon " [ insert your avatar name] OFTEN.
The love mail comes, and all of a sudden I have no skills- but if I ran my duvolle with pro 4 , AR would be OP.
but seriously, its intensely gratifying to get a kill with the plasma cannon - |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:21:00 -
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When I get by the PC I normally turn my PS3 off and flay myself for a bit :-P |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
827
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:07:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:calisk galern wrote:who cares?
short of nova knives their isn't a weapon in this game that isn't bitched about. Also, the plasma cannon. You will never hear anybody say "f-ing plasma cannon nub" Actually ... not true. I have a corp mate who has gotten hate mail twice ... both times for killing somebody with the plasma cannon Seriously? I can't be angry if I get killed by a plasma cannon or nova knife, as a matter of fact, I will send some love mail next time it happens. I will try to kill you with my Plasma Cannon, would be pretty cool to get a love mail ok! *runs into open field and spins*
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
2555
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:calisk galern wrote:who cares?
short of nova knives their isn't a weapon in this game that isn't bitched about. Also, the plasma cannon. You will never hear anybody say "f-ing plasma cannon nub" Actually ... not true. I have a corp mate who has gotten hate mail twice ... both times for killing somebody with the plasma cannon Seriously? I can't be angry if I get killed by a plasma cannon or nova knife, as a matter of fact, I will send some love mail next time it happens. I will try to kill you with my Plasma Cannon, would be pretty cool to get a love mail
Caldari Biomass outpost. Get on-top of the building overlooking Bravo and fire at the clone reserve unit.
Went 34-2 using a Plasma Cannon that match. Longest kill was 250m. |
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Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
427
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Posted - 2013.08.29 15:06:00 -
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I feel intensely dirty when I use my remote explosives. Like it's a cheap kill. Because it is. Hate mail well deserved.
Unfortunately, people still keep running at me when I disappear around a corner or keep spawning in on that CRU....Need me some more Irish Spring. |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
84
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Posted - 2013.08.29 15:17:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:superjoe360x wrote:They basically killed all flaylocks except for the core. A slight buff to the basic and advanced flaylock is needed in terms of splash radius. I was very accurate with the flaylocks and now its hard even for me to hit stuff with an advanced. I couldn't imagine the standard bro. Sorry to break your heart but the AR abusers go their wish and the nerf hammer fell a touch to hard. Don't waste your SP and go to the typical SMG like almost everyone else.
Its ok for the SMG to be ran as a main weapon and to have the power and damage but if any explosive device has any sort of stopping power ppl complain. Fact is they don't like getting blown up because they were not paying attention while ARing ppl to death. Nor do AR users like to take the high ground. They also run in packs. All these things make auto AR guys a MD and Flaylock users dream kills.
I love when I get hate mail from AR abusers. Ill go work for a bit to secure me some high ground and put in effort just to have some non tactical lazy AR guy complaining about how he got killed a bazillion times by the stupid no aiming MD or Flaylock guy that's above his head. Yet they will keep walking underneath me and they will keep complaining on the forums but they will most likely never put the effort forth to come and get me. So question is why if someone has great tactics do you come on here and complain when you didn't even try to kill me probably. I agree 100% with this. but you know whats funny? All they have to do, is back up. literally. they just need to move back to the ARs intended range of mid-range which is far enough to dodge most all explosive weapons. but, like you said the want o beat close range weapons in CQC. unfucking believable. whats worse is that all the math proves that the AR is in fact OP. but no one want to admit to it. and even when they do no one reacts to it to change it. no hand held weapon can out dps an AR from 5 meters out to 75m. (even an Assault forgun. it does 1538 damage every 4 seconds. every 4 seconds a milita AR can do upwards of 1898 damage without damage mods, proficiency or headshots). with a dps of 467 a milita Ar can drop a heavy suit with max mods and skills in 3.7 seconds or faster. with proficiency heavy suit dies in 3 seconds or less (with max mods and skills giving it 1591 ehp). your average heavy suit dies in 2 seconds to a militia AR. 24 bullets is all it takes... but flaylocks were OP? Lol you cannot kill a heavy suit with half a clip of a militia ar. You are bonkers.
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Tectonic Fusion
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
176
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Posted - 2013.08.29 17:24:00 -
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Commander Tuna wrote:D legendary hero wrote:superjoe360x wrote:They basically killed all flaylocks except for the core. A slight buff to the basic and advanced flaylock is needed in terms of splash radius. I was very accurate with the flaylocks and now its hard even for me to hit stuff with an advanced. I couldn't imagine the standard bro. Sorry to break your heart but the AR abusers go their wish and the nerf hammer fell a touch to hard. Don't waste your SP and go to the typical SMG like almost everyone else.
Its ok for the SMG to be ran as a main weapon and to have the power and damage but if any explosive device has any sort of stopping power ppl complain. Fact is they don't like getting blown up because they were not paying attention while ARing ppl to death. Nor do AR users like to take the high ground. They also run in packs. All these things make auto AR guys a MD and Flaylock users dream kills.
I love when I get hate mail from AR abusers. Ill go work for a bit to secure me some high ground and put in effort just to have some non tactical lazy AR guy complaining about how he got killed a bazillion times by the stupid no aiming MD or Flaylock guy that's above his head. Yet they will keep walking underneath me and they will keep complaining on the forums but they will most likely never put the effort forth to come and get me. So question is why if someone has great tactics do you come on here and complain when you didn't even try to kill me probably. I agree 100% with this. but you know whats funny? All they have to do, is back up. literally. they just need to move back to the ARs intended range of mid-range which is far enough to dodge most all explosive weapons. but, like you said the want o beat close range weapons in CQC. unfucking believable. whats worse is that all the math proves that the AR is in fact OP. but no one want to admit to it. and even when they do no one reacts to it to change it. no hand held weapon can out dps an AR from 5 meters out to 75m. (even an Assault forgun. it does 1538 damage every 4 seconds. every 4 seconds a milita AR can do upwards of 1898 damage without damage mods, proficiency or headshots). with a dps of 467 a milita Ar can drop a heavy suit with max mods and skills in 3.7 seconds or faster. with proficiency heavy suit dies in 3 seconds or less (with max mods and skills giving it 1591 ehp). your average heavy suit dies in 2 seconds to a militia AR. 24 bullets is all it takes... but flaylocks were OP? Lol you cannot kill a heavy suit with half a clip of a militia ar. You are bonkers. *with max mods and skills* |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
768
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Posted - 2013.08.29 19:57:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:19/2 in one match tonight. One kill using MD, the rest using AR or SMG. Still got mail about LOL MD. Use what you want. Don't worry about their opinions. I'm still thinking about training more into Flaylock because it comes from the Matar Motherland.
have you noticed how all the minmintar weapons except the SMG have gotten nerfed...
the MD, flaylock, HMG and contact grenades. all nerfed. they want to nerf locus grenades too. (contact grenades need to become sticky grenades) |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
768
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:13:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Commander Tuna wrote:D legendary hero wrote:superjoe360x wrote:They basically killed all flaylocks except for the core. A slight buff to the basic and advanced flaylock is needed in terms of splash radius. I was very accurate with the flaylocks and now its hard even for me to hit stuff with an advanced. I couldn't imagine the standard bro. Sorry to break your heart but the AR abusers go their wish and the nerf hammer fell a touch to hard. Don't waste your SP and go to the typical SMG like almost everyone else.
Its ok for the SMG to be ran as a main weapon and to have the power and damage but if any explosive device has any sort of stopping power ppl complain. Fact is they don't like getting blown up because they were not paying attention while ARing ppl to death. Nor do AR users like to take the high ground. They also run in packs. All these things make auto AR guys a MD and Flaylock users dream kills.
I love when I get hate mail from AR abusers. Ill go work for a bit to secure me some high ground and put in effort just to have some non tactical lazy AR guy complaining about how he got killed a bazillion times by the stupid no aiming MD or Flaylock guy that's above his head. Yet they will keep walking underneath me and they will keep complaining on the forums but they will most likely never put the effort forth to come and get me. So question is why if someone has great tactics do you come on here and complain when you didn't even try to kill me probably. I agree 100% with this. but you know whats funny? All they have to do, is back up. literally. they just need to move back to the ARs intended range of mid-range which is far enough to dodge most all explosive weapons. but, like you said the want o beat close range weapons in CQC. unfucking believable. whats worse is that all the math proves that the AR is in fact OP. but no one want to admit to it. and even when they do no one reacts to it to change it. no hand held weapon can out dps an AR from 5 meters out to 75m. (even an Assault forgun. it does 1538 damage every 4 seconds. every 4 seconds a milita AR can do upwards of 1898 damage without damage mods, proficiency or headshots). with a dps of 467 a milita Ar can drop a heavy suit with max mods and skills in 3.7 seconds or faster. with proficiency heavy suit dies in 3 seconds or less (with max mods and skills giving it 1591 ehp). your average heavy suit dies in 2 seconds to a militia AR. 24 bullets is all it takes... but flaylocks were OP? Lol you cannot kill a heavy suit with half a clip of a militia ar. You are bonkers. *with max mods and skills*
milita AR dps = 467 (no damage mods. no proficiency)
heavy with proto mods, proto suit, and lvl5 skills max ehp. 1591
1591 ehp /467 ehp per second = 3.4 seconds
34*1.1 = 37.4
37.4 = damage per shot.
1591/37.4 = 42 shots
42/48 = 88% of your clip.
milita AR dps = 537.05 (with proficiency and no damage mods
heavy with proto mods, proto suit, and lvl5 skills max ehp = 1591
1591/537.05 = 2.9 seconds
34 *1.25 = 42.5 damage per shot
1591/42.5 = 37 shots
37/48 = 77% of clip.
milita AR dps = 467 (no mods, skills)
Average heavy median ehp = 1000 (not all heavies have core upgrades to max. some use armor plates others dnt. on average this is the ehp of a heavy the lowest ehp being 800 highest being 1591)
1000/467 = 2.1 seconds
37.4 damage per shot
1000/37.4 = 26 shots
26/48 = 54% of your clip to kill your average heavy.
militia AR dps = 537.05 (w/ proficiency, no damage mods)
average heavy median ehp 1000 (the actual median is 1200, but do to fitting requirements reaching this without going over the median is impossible)
1000/537.05 = 1.8 seconds
42.5 damage per shot
1000/42.5 = 24
24/48 = 50%
half your clip to kill your average heavy. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
768
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:17:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:True yet not true, buy itself it may suck but last night some dude from RND went 19/0 with the core on a minmatar assault mk0 , so I tested the theory an use my mini med advanced frame that only has 3 high instead of 5 an put 2complex side dams to add to my proficiency 3 faylock an I went 15/3 with under 300 shields so I imagine with pro 5 an 3side dams you could probably wreck most suits in two shots, one for shields an the killshot, not really my play style but had to test its effectiveness mon the less
you could do it better with SMGs
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2136
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:33:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Lol at 'They killed the Flaylock' They didn't, they just made it a sidearm. no they made it a waste of SP. A side arm is the SMG. A side arm is the scrambler pistol. flaylock = doesn't work. you know what they made a primary and a side arm? an AR. because it reloads so fast you dnt need a secondary.
I'm happy with my Core Flaylock.
It still hardly takes any PG/CPU away from my Scout, the radius and damage was ridiculous, adjust your aim, aim for the body, anything, its not hard. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
768
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:44:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Lol at 'They killed the Flaylock' They didn't, they just made it a sidearm. no they made it a waste of SP. A side arm is the SMG. A side arm is the scrambler pistol. flaylock = doesn't work. you know what they made a primary and a side arm? an AR. because it reloads so fast you dnt need a secondary. I'm happy with my Core Flaylock. It still hardly takes any PG/CPU away from my Scout, the radius and damage was ridiculous, adjust your aim, aim for the body, anything, its not hard.
the proto is the only half decent flaylock, and even at that its pretty lame....
I use standard and ADV but they suck now. It also, doesn't help that I use heavy suits. but even on my light suits the gun itself is pretty lame.
if you need PROTO for a gun to be usable then its broken. period.
look at the lazers. the only usable one is the viziam PROTO.
HMGS you need ADV or higher to get any effect. |
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