I reserve the right to tell any one to Fu*k off, but I have finally gotten approval to open up some of the board to aspiring corporations.

Those that have backed out of the 'war' and those that speak English and have no bruised knees from spending time in Sha's VIp room are free to inquire.

Corps that have brought forth good matches without using a pile of ringers are more than welcome to inquire.

contract hunters
3dge of Darkness
even Foxhound Corp, you have impressed the right people in your recent efforts

undoubtedly many others.

please contact me on Skype: chicagocubsnbears or in game


these lands are not cheap. and every deal is potentially different. coming to trying to lowball me simply wont work.

This is yet another favor Team Players and Eon. is doing for the community of Dust.

we've proven its gonna take you 2 years to actually TAKE the land from us, so I'm willing to simply sell it to you and send you on your merry way.

anyone who thinks this is a scam, please feel free to talk to anyone who has dealt with me... the word doesn't even compute with me.

in case you haven't noticed I can lock down the entire galaxy if I so chose.. indefinitely.

Its profitable, easy, and quite frankly im inclined to do it JUST to spite people with your kind of viewpoint.

at the SAME time im looking to help those get a piece of the pie that I believe deserve it. and there are a good number that do.

so hit me up

we've proven its gonna take you 2 years to actually TAKE the land from us, so I'm willing to simply sell it to you and send you on your merry way.

I never read so much b$ in one single sentence.

Who do you think you are?

You try to tell people you are unbeatable in a game that is about SP grinding more then it is about skillz?
LOL!

If you are that good, how it come i never saw you guys in any other game with real money prizes?

In my entire e-sports career (im playing for more than 12 years) i never met a team that was talking
so much proud b$ like you guys.


Switch over to a game where you can beat others for real money and stop wasting peps time in Dust.

To be honnest, this game here is lightyears away from beeing competitive playable.
Especially if it comes to wars between US located teams and EU and takeing the unbalanced gameplay
in account.


Omg that kids are going like that within the e-universe must be a new doom for how the next generation
is growing up.... Hopefully my kids will never become something like that and instead of using the time to
study and get something done for real...

Locking down the universe...lmao..roflcopter...*slaps himself with a big large lasershark*

Wait locking the system means you lose ISK?

Well still if Mavado is right then it doesn't matter, you're gone soon? or is Mavado wrong?

Still if they deserve a disrict then they should prove it by... taking a district and not buying one...

You know by urself why it is so hard for even organized corps to take you down.

Corps with no districts needs to buy a clone pack with only 120 clones in it.

As your team and let me say most of EoN is holding Cargo Hubs, you need to beat 450 clones with the 120
you brought into the war AND you are not allowed to loose a single clone cause you cant re-attack if youre under
100.

Only if you have some districts its possible to ship clones and bring more then 120 clones into a war which will
make it possible to re-attack.

You guys are playing good together, thats true. You have tactical teamplay, thats true.
But if no one can come with more then 120 clones, its not possible to bring down your districts.

Right?

Last but not least,

the game mechanics, especially the drop down frame rate by massive MD spamm, plus the ping situation
which is very bad for us EU located teams, makes it even harder.

How else can it be possible that you face very often that there is no hit detection even if a core grenade
is exploding beside someone...

This game is fun but far away from competitive or something i would call ready for e-sports.
And trust me, i like to meet organized teams like you.

in case you haven't noticed I can lock down the entire galaxy if I so chose.. indefinitely.

Its profitable, easy, and quite frankly im inclined to do it JUST to spite people with your kind of viewpoint.

at the SAME time im looking to help those get a piece of the pie that I believe deserve it. and there are a good number that do.

so hit me up

You know by urself why it is so hard for even organized corps to take you down.

Corps with no districts needs to buy a clone pack with only 120 clones in it.

As your team and let me say most of EoN is holding Cargo Hubs, you need to beat 450 clones with the 120
you brought into the war AND you are not allowed to loose a single clone cause you cant re-attack if youre under
100.

Only if you have some districts its possible to ship clones and bring more then 120 clones into a war which will
make it possible to re-attack.

You guys are playing good together, thats true. You have tactical teamplay, thats true.
But if no one can come with more then 120 clones, its not possible to bring down your districts.

Right?

Last but not least,

the game mechanics, especially the drop down frame rate by massive MD spamm, plus the ping situation
which is very bad for us EU located teams, makes it even harder.

How else can it be possible that you face very often that there is no hit detection even if a core grenade
is exploding beside someone...

This game is fun but far away from competitive or something i would call ready for e-sports.
And trust me, i like to meet organized teams like you.

Pretty mush the greatest heap of BULLSH!T ever. I have now completely changed my view and am convinced that PC should be reworked. When presented initially with PC ideas by the DEV's I supported the votes to have timers so that the smaller corps could stay competitive with the larger ones like PRO at the time. Now I see the err of my ways when the most talented small corp of players can just duck competition and exploit the mechanics of the game.

Bravo you have won and single handedly proved your are 1. good at the game. and 2. a wimp at heart. I would much rather see the likes of QG, CBJ, and sha ruling PC with masses of zerg drones 24 hours a day than ever see the likes of you and your distorted view on "gud fights" and "competition" You my sir are all hot air, your fall will be on your own accord and no one else but don't kid yourself that you control when.

believe what u want and make sure to focus that hate... u need to harness the powers of the darkside to be the jedi u always wanted to be.



u say BS.... yet you don't seem to look at the map. BS and FACT are hard to dispute.

this obviously doesn't apply to you so just move along and quit spamming my thread. maybe I should just put this in general where all the randoms show up too ;)

awww I feel so loved.

anyway back to business.

Got a few people already in contact. The number I decide to move really depends on who hits me up.

don't waste my time with random 1 man corps as homework will be done beforehand and accolades from other reputable corps that aren't servants in sha's amazing circus of apes and other oddities of the orient ;-)

I just want to point out here to all the trolls.

FEC attacks TeamPlayers... TeamPlayers goes from 28% ownership to 31% ownership of PC.

Yeah, we won. But whats the point? Time to give back to the masses. Give everyone what they want, land, and a chance at PC.

We just want to make sure its profitable for us as well.

I know u guys are really a good strong team. I respect this. But why u sounds everytime so much arrogant cubs? I think at reallife u have really small ballz. It must be....i dont have a idea why otherwise u have this require.



And bevor i paid for a District like a *@#$* i delete dust

Ok i'll bite what's the point of locking districts then?

You've won them all fair and square, you want to sell them because you have to many, and your very certain that you are all the greatest and have no real threats. All of that makes sense, now explain how locking them is the right call if that is all true.

You shouldn't be afraid of actually losing one since you're the greatest and are only in it for the "gud fights" so that cant be the reason you're locking them.

SO again I ask why lock the districts that you not afraid of losing is a fight?

very simple... 15 timers on a single 1 hour reinforcement. they aren't locked you silly twits zerg a single timer, placing us into a frenzy hopping in and out of battles taking on 16 with only a handful and still winning most the time, coordinating..

we lost 1 district doing this, but it tires the human body, and being 1 of 2 people coordinating it all I'll gladly say yes its too much to continue doing.

so they are locked, so the masses cant put us in that position... leaving US in control.

at the SAME time, I'm willing to share the wealth, helping out other corps, as I have done before.

and you come in here and make a spectacle out of me simply trying to give back.. once again.

im gonna go on a limb and assume you were NOT in any of these matches recently, cause everyone that has knows what we're all talking about here.

random trolls smh

very simple... 15 timers on a single 1 hour reinforcement. they aren't locked you silly twits zerg a single timer, placing us into a frenzy hopping in and out of battles taking on 16 with only a handful and still winning most the time, coordinating..

we lost 1 district doing this, but it tires the human body, and being 1 of 2 people coordinating it all I'll gladly say yes its too much to continue doing.

so they are locked, so the masses cant put us in that position... leaving US in control.

at the SAME time, I'm willing to share the wealth, helping out other corps, as I have done before.

and you come in here and make a spectacle out of me simply trying to give back.. once again.

im gonna go on a limb and assume you were NOT in any of these matches recently, cause everyone that has knows what we're all talking about here.

random trolls smh

SO again I ask why lock the districts that you not afraid of losing is a fight?

SO you're saying you're willing to exploit the mechanics by locking your districts with blue or alt corps so that they are never vulnerable to an attack by actual DUST players, and you're different from SHAKA KHAN in what way?

Kettle meet Pot he said you were black

SMH How is this an exploit?

Can you not hit the timers? Just gotta pay attention

We're different cause we beat everyone.

We already beat back the zerg, but don't care or feel the need to do it indefinitely...rather sell them off TBH.

Zerging with less skilled to little skilled corps means the only ones to get districts are the AE and Seraphim guys (proof is they are the only ones to take districts, and they did because we had 2 many timers).

We would rather sell the districts off to other corps sans AE and Seraphim lolol.

Glad to see that the spirit of FPS competitiveness that was your supposed origin is still so strong, I guess when you get to that MLG level the only thing left is to sell out. Enjoy your roles as the leading car dealers of New Eden, and the awesome legacy that will leave.

SMH How is this an exploit?

Can you not hit the timers? Just gotta pay attention

We're different cause we beat everyone.

They're different because they're Americans...
Not those tea sipping Brits...

Just to say I'd rather deal with SI they don't act like they're farmers...

Welp when the timers go back online hit them before we do.

Act like farmers? Hey just saying when we started locking up timers saturday...there was only 9 fights in.

Pretty sure the FEC was ready for a day off as well

We want good fights...13 fights in an hour vs sh1tbums isn't good fights. 1-2 fights an hour vs AE and anyone else that can compete, that's our competitive FPS. If you want to get stomped on then let's dance, but don't pretend you'd want that punishment without knowing there's a ton of other stacked timers praying your sacrifice is helping one of those battles be a no show, and thus not competitive, for the lucky corp.

Act like farmers? Hey just saying when we started locking up timers saturday...there was only 9 fights in.

Pretty sure the FEC was ready for a day off as well

We want good fights...13 fights in an hour vs sh1tbums isn't good fights. 1-2 fights an hour vs AE and anyone else that can compete, that's our competitive FPS. If you want to get stomped on then let's dance, but don't pretend you'd want that punishment without knowing there's a ton of other stacked timers praying your sacrifice is helping one of those battles be a no show, and thus not competitive, for the lucky corp.

we no showed the first 2 matches (not by choice but had our hands full) then hopped in on the last 1 to try to salvage the district, but to no avail. AE was fresh, and won the district.

I just want to point out here to all the trolls.

FEC attacks TeamPlayers... TeamPlayers goes from 28% ownership to 31% ownership of PC.

Yeah, we won. But whats the point? Time to give back to the masses. Give everyone what they want, land, and a chance at PC.

We just want to make sure its profitable for us as well.

:< We're declining. There's a few reasons behind it but most of it has to do with us not being ready to actually hold a district(If we win one in battle it's a whole different story that I wouldn't want to get into here) and that we're still taking part in the war. o,o It would be mighty funny to buy land from you guys and then attack the nearest Eon corporation.

So you are afraid of losing a districts, but instead of being the awesome juggernaut that your are and growing your ranks and training others and in general making TP and EON better and being able to hold what you've amassed, you'd rather be a *****. OK i can live with that at least now I can be clear on how LEET you really are. Good luck with your 15 minutes.

then get more people... or pay RINGERS.

Did you notice that TP absorbed those districts from PI? They gave em all to you, because they can't defend em on their own.

There's also the alliance to call on. However you look at it, locking the districts is just bad sportsmanship. Each to his own.

Sorry you feel that way.

giving a big FU to the dipsh1ts in FEC that utterly failed to take any of it over the course of a week.

go f*ck yourself

now I have everything locked up, nothing you can do except QQ and punch a baby or whatever u do to let off steam.

*punches baby*

Is this what you wanted, Cubs!? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED!!?

Hey i'd like to buy some districts for AE.

strike a nerve did we?

You know by urself why it is so hard for even organized corps to take you down.

Corps with no districts needs to buy a clone pack with only 120 clones in it.

As your team and let me say most of EoN is holding Cargo Hubs, you need to beat 450 clones with the 120
you brought into the war AND you are not allowed to loose a single clone cause you cant re-attack if youre under
100.

Only if you have some districts its possible to ship clones and bring more then 120 clones into a war which will
make it possible to re-attack.

You guys are playing good together, thats true. You have tactical teamplay, thats true.
But if no one can come with more then 120 clones, its not possible to bring down your districts.

Right?

Last but not least,

the game mechanics, especially the drop down frame rate by massive MD spamm, plus the ping situation
which is very bad for us EU located teams, makes it even harder.

How else can it be possible that you face very often that there is no hit detection even if a core grenade
is exploding beside someone...

This game is fun but far away from competitive or something i would call ready for e-sports.
And trust me, i like to meet organized teams like you.

You co tinue to post like we care what you think or how we are percieved...

The bottom line is we hold land, we are now selling a portion of said land, and in the process giving a big FU to the dipsh1ts in FEC that utterly failed to take any of it over the course of a week.

We have been eagerly awaiting other games to divert our attention from dust, and 1 of them has arrived.

Many are enjoying it, and simply don't care about dust atm. So we are opening up the idea of getting rid of some land.

You guys had your chance. We had many good fights, but at the cost of sleep and our real lives. We are putting a stop to that as well as opening the board for other people to get in the mix.

Not hard to comprehend

So tell me how is locking the districts congruent with opening them?

Why is UPS not fighting in the EU tournament? connections are fine. thought you guys liked competition.

its called an artificial bottleneck. they increase profits by decreasing supply and increasing demand.

Yeah, not knocking it, just my opinion, if that's what you wish to do that's your business. I'm sure many in the same position would do so too.

EDIT: the fact that you are selling them on and excluding certain corps from the sales as to not repeat the cycle is a good thing.

Simple: We like fights and competition, but we dont like to sign up at other pages to push them or whatever ;)
And lol, ist not enough to sign up ur team, no, every player have to sign up....

Thats all...:)

So Urgent Fury > UPS?

So tell me how is locking the districts congruent with opening them?

Simple: We like fights and competition, but we dont like to sign up at other pages to push them or whatever ;)
And lol, ist not enough to sign up ur team, no, every player have to sign up....

Thats all...:)

How is that giving back to the community?

Do these high priced districts come with the assurance that EoN will not reclaim them, nor will EoN players ring for corps attacking them? Where's the value?

Why would we pay more than we've paid for districts in the past?

Not cheap?

- Make money by taking everyone's stuff in PC.
- Sell districts back at high price.
- Make money by taking them back again in PC.

How is that giving back to the community?

Do these high priced districts come with the assurance that EoN will not reclaim them, nor will EoN players ring for corps attacking them? Where's the value?

Why would we pay more than we've paid for districts in the past?

Also, what's to stop the stronger FEC corps from attacking anyone who buys land from TP? Can't see why they'd cut Eon collaborators any slack.

there are what 225 total districts in this game... districts changing hands is the name of the game.. no one gonna hang onto everything forever

whys it collaboration? im not asking for any form of allegiance or anything of the sort.

simply respectable corps looking for land that aren't directly on the enemy side of this war (pretty obvious there)

AE claims to be these 'saviors' to team players 'control' over molden heath.

yet you are insinuating them and others are gonna beat on the little guy for getting some land?

yea sounds like some **** Sha and Kujo would pull...

but they are the ones claiming they are the good guys ;)

Fair enough, 'collaborators' was a bit strong, but my point was that you're explicitly only giving out land to corps that haven't rubbed you up the wrong way (see OP). That's going to raise the suspicion - in many cases, wrong, I'm sure - that you're giving land in exchange for services rendered. A bit like this:

25 Aug TeamPlayers lost Altbrard VI - District 1 to Pradox One

as EVERY single person that has purchased... not a single one has ever been attacked by me on the district they bought from me.

4: You guys fail to realise the future of this game and PC is not EON, Its the new corps, new alliances, and new players.
PC and the game will Flurish if EoN dissolved today then everyone could actually enjoy the game and have all the wars they want without pro thumb wigglers calling the shots.

5: EoN-Planetary Response= 1 in the same the only difference was there execution. PRO made a corp of huge numbers - While EoN made an alliance with huge numbers. EoN just happened to execute it better than ContraBanJoe, other than that they are the same thing.

6: Dont give us the oh we helped indies crap again either, that wasnt to help anything but your wallet and make it so you control who comes and gos in PC. You keep doing it because when ever they need ringers you are the one they pay. Its all PR BS and business not to "Save the game" If you wanna save it split the alliance. Give away alll your districts and then you will have battles again. But you wont because your that irritateing GF that wants all the money she can get. HERES YOUR PROOF FROM THE MAN HIMSELF. MORE PROOF FROM EON MEMBERS ADDED 8/06/13






7: EON quit calling every post that makes you look bad QQ, your just making yourselves sound even more ignorant.

8: I now leave this open to the Chest thumping EoN trolls to come QQ about another PR failure. GG thumb wigglers.

9: Quit calling the game dead that you play all day every day ingame and on its forums and using it as an excuse for your BS. Baraka fail shame seems to be the main ignorant fool doing it. BIGGEST JOKE IN EON GOES TO BARAKA FAIL SHAME, CUBS, MAVADO, AND HIGHTIMES! Congrats on making your corps and alliance look like total idiots.

10: Until this terrorist Organization is destroyed DO NOT do any land deals and/or anything involving isk as they will rob you blind and leave you with nothing. Its happened to everyone that has delt with them.

Perhaps not, but your alliance has.

They're different because they're Americans...
Not those tea sipping Brits...

Just to say I'd rather deal with SI they don't act like they're farmers...

What a downfall.

I'd say a good 20% of EoN are EU and most of those are UK.

It's not just TP that's been roflstomping the FEC you know.

We at RS have the same amount of districts as we starts with.

Tea sipping we ain't.

CUBS YOUR LIEING AGAINNN, Proof right from YOU. Quit trying to BS everyone FFS. Read

actually no.... if u think about it... still hasn't happened.

Every Sale Ive made ive informed my alliance to leave them be, or at least give them time to get situated.

depends on the situation.

you are also making comparisons to when the map was completely dormant, and I have personally never sold u any land anyway...

but we really don't need to get into that.

the landscape has changed, there is a band of rebels that have assembled to fight the powers, thus shaking things up.

I have land, im willing to move some. Hit me up if interested...

really that simple

do you realize I MAKE isk by locking down my own districts?

u sir are utterly clueless.

my current profit is more than you can grind in 2 months.. in a single DAY

is it as high as by not doing this? no

but rest assured its pure profit AND p1$$es u off to no end.

ok well im done here. I've placed my offer and how to contact me, those interested are finding me now.

thank you for your time

You guys are just so full of yourself. I swear, I have tried to see a good side of you(EoN)but the more you post, the more I can see the ignorance and arrogance.

this "I argued that this is too soon, but Cubs wisely wants to preemptively avoid any player burnout with the tourney being the endgoal, not fattening wallets in a gamemode that we've broken."

So now YOU have broken the game lol....Excuse me, but I am pretty sure it has been broken for some time. You are just taking advantage of mechanics. Locking your won districts? Not much better than the melee glitch. Only 16v16?? I'd love to see you fight 32v32 or 64v64. A different ballgame all together.But, we will not see that happen anytime soon.

I am curious though, does Cubs make you guys tweak your own nipples while you look in the mirror winking at yourselves?

I will assume he does.

Sorry was busy and didn't see this.

Umm...we broke the game is a reference to all the EoN haters that have been saying we did, not my words, I just adopted them. You can take issue with my words, I don't care if you think they are arrogant. Locking districts is a tactic. Go ask the dev's is it's cheating same way we did...if they had said melee glitch/exploiting was not a glitch/exploit we'd have sallied forth against it.

Go ask the dev's if using an alt corp to lock districts is exploiting. You guys say it is. But why is it? I'm just wondering? Can you not look at the starmap and intercept when it goes online? Would it be much different if we just said "Hey we're gonna go get better for the community by attacking each other and having the fun at our liesure g/l h/f with what's left of MH!" ???

Taking advantage and exploiting are different. Melee Glitch is an exploit on the battlefield..this is mechanics of PC the dev's implemented and have been used before by others before us. Want examples?

If this game goes 32v32 or 64v64 I'll be back. But I'm going to go have fun in FF and play this on the side when I care to or cubs needs his A-Team.

So go snipe some contracts or get a dev to say it's an exploit. If it is I will leave TeamPlayers if they don't agree to stop it. Proly go join that indie corp with 5 guys and get that KEQ guy to admit we're ballers

Any of you non EoN people still feel like drinking this guys coolaid?

Heck, any of you bored out of your minds EoN people feel like changing things around a little bit?

Zatara? You almost bit at the idea to switch sides, or perhaps your response was just a troll... anyone else?

I reserve the right to tell any one to Fu*k off, but I have finally gotten approval to open up some of the board to aspiring corporations.

Those that have backed out of the 'war' and those that speak English and have no bruised knees from spending time in Sha's VIp room are free to inquire.

Corps that have brought forth good matches without using a pile of ringers are more than welcome to inquire.

contract hunters
3dge of Darkness
even Foxhound Corp, you have impressed the right people in your recent efforts

undoubtedly many others.

please contact me on Skype: chicagocubsnbears or in game


these lands are not cheap. and every deal is potentially different. coming to trying to lowball me simply wont work.

This is yet another favor Team Players and Eon. is doing for the community of Dust.

we've proven its gonna take you 2 years to actually TAKE the land from us, so I'm willing to simply sell it to you and send you on your merry way.

anyone who thinks this is a scam, please feel free to talk to anyone who has dealt with me... the word doesn't even compute with me.

In my entire e-sports career (im playing for more than 12 years) i never met a team that was talking
so much proud b$ like you guys.

@ ER

I ask for a dev to confirm it's an exploit.

I meant advantage as in beneficial...but not unfair. As in just because I have an advantage (say because I'm more athletic) doesn't mean I have it unfairly or exploited. But let's not play semantics. You get the point I made.

If people couldn't attack us by watching timers...then PC would be broke. If we could make profits form locking up...PC would be broke. Get a dev on it and I'll do everything I can to stop it's use.

Otherwise it seems like you guys are unsure it's truly an exploit that needs fixing...perhaps because it doesn't and it's a strategic way of controlling the land you've won.

0.02 isk.

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I drink no mans Kool-aid and love logical conversations. Also...bacon

Cool beans. I am learning as I go, and up until Zelkain posted TP's "secrets" I honestly didnt even know it was going on.

Yup we started locking them up Sat night when the fighting began to die so we could tell our guys they could have guaranteed days off. LOLOL fight 100+ battles and I'd say it was time for a day off.

To be upfront locking them up was my idea. I told them some guys needed a few days to get back up and cited the AE loss as a principal case in point of us losing fights because our guys weren't fresh. Last night we won against AE (with arirana got over 20+ again) with a clone pack and freshly rested players.

If locking was not an option I doubt the stamina of all our guys would rival the stamina of cubs, xero, hightimes, fiddle, doc, and I.

Maybe...if we'd lost a bunch and that was the reason we locked them....but we only lost like 10-12 fights...and one district. No doubt about it teamplayers could destroy this war for our own districts...can't speak for the alliance however.

But we locked em cause I wanted a full day off....the attacks we already diminishing.

Did we ever say we could own MH prior to this war? I must have missed that....proof or are you lying?

The only ones I see throwing a fit is the haters on locking....and I'm trying to have a conversation about it that no one is engaging in...

ZR I appreciate your candor and honestly and am only trolling because of the obvious hypocrisy. I have to ask in your endeavors of domination from two districts to your current success did anyone try and lock block you from attacking? What was your impression of that opponent?

Look I'll make no claims of being able to take a district from you but I find it awfully frustrating that you can prevent even the effort by "taking a break" especially when the entire community is constantly being bleated with how great and unstoppable you are. All I've ever heard from Mavado and Cubs is that the only way to get better is to fight the better competition. Guess what we hear that loud and clear and here to answer that call, where are you?

I dont see what the deal is. You guys locked our districts and it is legit. Like A Boss locks ours and we dodging?

Using the same tactic that you are. We will not fight an asymmetrical war. You want land? Come and play. So far of the teams I have played against only Valor Coalition, KEQ, and AE have impressed me even a little bit (tourney matches aside). Rest of you come get it...

Or you can buy it.

If you are trying to get better, stacking timers isn't going to help you. Seeing what you can do with a 5 minute lead up 8 guys is nice and all but... Nice try though.

ZR I appreciate your candor and honestly and am only trolling because of the obvious hypocrisy. I have to ask in your endeavors of domination from two districts to your current success did anyone try and lock block you from attacking? What was your impression of that opponent?

Look I'll make no claims of being able to take a district from you but I find it awfully frustrating that you can prevent even the effort by "taking a break" especially when the entire community is constantly being bleated with how great and unstoppable you are. All I've ever heard from Mavado and Cubs is that the only way to get better is to fight the better competition. Guess what we hear that loud and clear and here to answer that call, where are you?

Cubs has been throwing that line around a lot, Im not going to hunt through every single thread hes done some posturing in though since that would take all day and you right now saying your corp alone could destroy the war also carries implications of "We can do whatever we want and no one can stop us" despite locking them showing no you guys really cant if you need to call for a time out to rest up

Now Ive looked through the thread and you have been seemingly the most reasonable but its the kind of duplicitous reasonable with weaseling around, saying you didnt mean this you actually meant something else, playing semantics with the words exploit and advantage, and just generally avoiding things when people try to take you to task and play the positive PR role
Sadly thats undermined by your inconsistencies and your corp mates tantrums

But all in all for a guy like me that has no stake in any of this and is just watching from the sidelines I say keep it up, this whole situation is really good for a laugh

And how am I or anyone not a director TP at all responsible for the number of timers you have?

Zatara's words mean nothing.

Remembers OP's Dirty Secret? That was Zataras alt and ever since he screwed up and posted on his main he retired his alt.

We all know how much sh!t he talked on TP and all of EoN before he screwed himself, he's 2 faced and not worth the time. He'll defend hes daddy cubs till the end supporting the lies.

So essentially...you couldn't find quotes even though he's been throwing the line around a lot?

I am pretty reasonable. Or at least try to be..Some of this is too convoluted for me to understand cause I'm not very bright but I'll try.

So clarifying when someone tries to nail to to a word and not the words intent is weaseling, got it. I'll try to be more specific.

Avoiding things? I've been asking for a conversation and reason why locking is an exploit and not a tactic, and all I got is nothing so far from anyone, so who seems to be avoiding? I answered the question head on.

My corp mates tantrums? You mean Cubs? Tantrums might be a bit overstating but that's just my opinion. Hope i'm still entitled to one around here.

I'll try to keep going and get through all this. Thanks for the support.

Yes. Though locking districts is an expensive means of avoiding. Less so now, but still most couldn't afford to do this. Delta Force did this I remember and it cost them quite a bit.

The main way people have tried to avoid fights with us is by setting timers to early morning when they wouldn't even be on.

Pro Hic, Mass Terror, WarRavens...you name it...some even sent mails saying to the effect of "Good luck waking up early for this one b1tches." And it was a legitimate tactic....we didn't cry here about having to be extra diligent in order to secure those districts...and with a little diligence you guys could snipe contracts...see where I'm coming from?

I personally led the attack recently that trolololod Mass Terror's district, even with 10-12 ringers from Nyan San. I had to get up at 4 am...and organize a battle. It wasn't funsies like doing it at 8pm, but I wanted it bad enough. I wanted it more than Mass Terror did anyways...

I can see that it's frustrating to have all that momentum especially with PI basically calling it quits, and your guys using AE with Arirana to get some districts from SyN and Red* along with the multiple stacked timers resulting in a few wins as well, and just plain winning against Giant and Rogue Spades...

You guys deserve what you've won. We stacked em and we lost em. You won em fair and square.

Now, at our own expense we can play it similar to how many tried to avoid fights by locking up....and fighting unburdened by our timers vulnerability...but we can't do it forever...

Is it hypocritical to do it?

If we'd locked up from the beginning then yes completely hypocritical. And I would be fighting against EoN with whoever I deem to have the teamwork and dedication to win.

But we met you head on and didn't lock a thing for 5 days. I want to keep going. i want catharsis....but don't keep putting in one attack each day from 5 corps and AE and call it a war...day one was war...day 2 was war...day 3 was war....day 4 you guys stopped attacking...day 5 I rarely heard any calls for help in EoN PC....and I beat AE's 120 clones pack attempt (and laugh now because the AE alt said they only lost cause 120 clones cause we beat them with 120 yesterday)

Overall..I want more conversation. where are you coming from? Do you see at all where I'm coming from?

I missed it, why does everybody think Zat is OP's Dirty Secret. OP said he was rejected from TP Zat was never rejected.

We all know that dude. I'm just in MoIon Labe. not Molon Labe. lol. The name was awesome and I had to borrow it, nothing on your clan or whatever, I just found it awesome and decided to steal it when I found out you guys had closed recruiting :/

But the post is foolproof, the work of a genius laying down the foundation of much namecalling and people defending the bullshit Radar is doing at the moment.

1 isk for all your land

I see where your coming from but it's still hypocritical if you guys suck everything your saying makes sense. what's the worst that happens if you don'tock them? You've got more isk than the rest of dust combined so your not in it for the money. You can look at the map and feel proud in your accomplishments to date with nothing to regret I doubt this game will ever see one corp hold that much again. It's been obvious from day one your guys enjoy attacking more than defending and actually holding it with pfc and all the land sales.

So what's the worst case scenerio if you do unlock them. You lose the bloat you really don't want? you ask rnd to help with their greater numbers? Does it really matter even if you do lose some everyone knows you can just take it back if it suits you so your not losing any perceived credit or honor. As it stands you have nothing to lose.

that e-bushido honor that l people like to laugh is very real and regardless what you say i know you have it, every competitive fps player still fights for some semblance of it. As it stands on your current course that will end, your memory will be as the folks who were good, maybe the best, but the also the most undeserving of any percieved titles or respect. Your selling everything you've said you guys stand for isk you don't need.

You don't even give a **** about the isk you care about the fun with the gun, why try so hard to hold the one while undernining the other.

I'd much rather see you not lose a single district and work your alliance or grow in an effort to see raise others to your level. Instead it appears you have zero faith in them and genuinely scared of the competition. I could be wrong but these are your a actions not mine.

the guarantee I will make is very simple...

buying districts places u at the BOTTOM of the list, and ill be honest the list is ever increasing...

in game actions, fight club infractions, corps with bad breath, PRO.. the list goes on

Cool beans. I am learning as I go, and up until Zelkain posted TP's "secrets" I honestly didnt even know it was going on.

I forget where the post is, but you can actually start to turn a profit by locking your own districts after the 6th district. So I would says its a pretty broken system and is just as much of an exploit as any other. CCP actually said they weren't going to worry about it unless it was "abused". Its a risk-free way to earn isk in PC, something TP has been vehemently opposed of since I care to recall.

At the end of the day EON has to live with it's actions. The second you lock your own districts, it means you can't hold them. The whole idea of this war was to cause attrition, and thats exactly whats happening. However, y'all are getting around that by using a mechanic in PC that allows you to funnel the attack.

Dishonorable yea....but since when has EON/TP cared about honor? It is a video game after all.

Just to be clear, you have Prototype equipment on your list, or does this imply you have PXRXO on your radar?

I was going to stay out of this, but felt some clarification was in order.

Also, PXRXO does not want any EON districts under this proposed system. PC is broken in its current state due to the fact that a single minority has been incredibly successful with their tactics, and that its still a game mode that requires a LOT of work to address the issues that were glaring with it from day one.

Also, I don't expect a cordial response from you OP, so I will end by calling you an arrogant gunt.

Good day.

if i get land can i sell it to EoN. :D or will i just get attacked again. :(

Not quite accurate. You sent someone into their game, they saw AE had 300 clones to your 450, and you decided you would send your A team vs one of the 2 small corps that were also attacking you at the same time. What happened to the good fights?

Its ok Killar. They will hold on as long as they can until KABOOM.

And kaboom will either be... coalition, new alliance beats them back.

Or they all quit

Either way, perhaps next time the players will learn from past mistakes and not do this all over again.

I asked Mavado a straight up question a few weeks back in one of the threads..
If he could go back in time and knowing what he knows now, would he blue up as far as he did again knowing the game would get stale and the lack of competition.
He did not respond. Perhaps his lack of response is an answer in and of itself. He doesnt care about fair, or competition, just being on top of the hill collecting all the iskies while he screams "THIS GAME SUCKS ANYWAY WE ALL GONNA BE GONE FOR PS4 AND GTA ANYWAY BWOLOLOL)

2. I do care for competition,

3. Why do ppl think i care for ISK? lol

FEC ppl i talked to last night idiot posts like these right here is what makes me not want to give a ****

PS: why am i even back on these forums repeating myself again? thats the million dollar question tbh.

Oh and you still never answered my question if you would do this all over again. knowing what you know now, seeing past alliances who you deemed as "evil" or "terrorists" attempted to do the same thing you all have been successful in doing.

You cite quality over quantity time and time again, but when faced with a tough question you point to other alliances having MORE MEMBERS THAN YOU as if that means anything when discussing the "blue donut" effect. Quality vs Quantity works when it benefits your position in an argument, but not the other way around? silly.

There is no way to tell how many of those "other alliance" members are still active, but we know EoN still has enough active members with skill, time and isk to beat back hundreds of attacks from the FEC and win many many more fights than they have lost, at least according to propaganda.

Your rebuttles are getting weaker and weaker each time you respond on here Mavado. I agree you should stop, and talk in private with leadership to see if you all can figure out how to right these wrongs. Do you really think you still have a leg to stand on now that a large chunk of the community is knocking on your door saying "what the **** is this **** you all are trying to do over here", for lack of a better more thoughtful description.

honestly? we'll always have a leg or 4 to stand on as long as we have people playing this game. Districts mean little, and we have proven over and over, and over and over and over, that we can compete on the battlefield.

and at the end of the day, that's the only thing that really matters

COWARDCUBS you have proven you cant compete and thats why your districts are locked.

Your nothing but a greedy coward. NO1 has any respect left for you or the cowards supporting you STFU already.

Id rather listen to a troll all day than hear anymore of your lieing BS.

How again did winning 295/300 matches prove we can't compete?

in case you haven't noticed I can lock down the entire galaxy if I so chose.. indefinitely.

Its profitable, easy, and quite frankly im inclined to do it JUST to spite people with your kind of viewpoint.

at the SAME time im looking to help those get a piece of the pie that I believe deserve it. and there are a good number that do.

so hit me up