actually no.... if u think about it... still hasn't happened.

Every Sale Ive made ive informed my alliance to leave them be, or at least give them time to get situated.

depends on the situation.

you are also making comparisons to when the map was completely dormant, and I have personally never sold u any land anyway...

but we really don't need to get into that.

the landscape has changed, there is a band of rebels that have assembled to fight the powers, thus shaking things up.

I have land, im willing to move some. Hit me up if interested...

really that simple

do you realize I MAKE isk by locking down my own districts?

u sir are utterly clueless.

my current profit is more than you can grind in 2 months.. in a single DAY

is it as high as by not doing this? no

but rest assured its pure profit AND p1$$es u off to no end.

ok well im done here. I've placed my offer and how to contact me, those interested are finding me now.

thank you for your time

You guys are just so full of yourself. I swear, I have tried to see a good side of you(EoN)but the more you post, the more I can see the ignorance and arrogance.

this "I argued that this is too soon, but Cubs wisely wants to preemptively avoid any player burnout with the tourney being the endgoal, not fattening wallets in a gamemode that we've broken."

So now YOU have broken the game lol....Excuse me, but I am pretty sure it has been broken for some time. You are just taking advantage of mechanics. Locking your won districts? Not much better than the melee glitch. Only 16v16?? I'd love to see you fight 32v32 or 64v64. A different ballgame all together.But, we will not see that happen anytime soon.

I am curious though, does Cubs make you guys tweak your own nipples while you look in the mirror winking at yourselves?

I will assume he does.

Sorry was busy and didn't see this.

Umm...we broke the game is a reference to all the EoN haters that have been saying we did, not my words, I just adopted them. You can take issue with my words, I don't care if you think they are arrogant. Locking districts is a tactic. Go ask the dev's is it's cheating same way we did...if they had said melee glitch/exploiting was not a glitch/exploit we'd have sallied forth against it.

Go ask the dev's if using an alt corp to lock districts is exploiting. You guys say it is. But why is it? I'm just wondering? Can you not look at the starmap and intercept when it goes online? Would it be much different if we just said "Hey we're gonna go get better for the community by attacking each other and having the fun at our liesure g/l h/f with what's left of MH!" ???

Taking advantage and exploiting are different. Melee Glitch is an exploit on the battlefield..this is mechanics of PC the dev's implemented and have been used before by others before us. Want examples?

If this game goes 32v32 or 64v64 I'll be back. But I'm going to go have fun in FF and play this on the side when I care to or cubs needs his A-Team.

So go snipe some contracts or get a dev to say it's an exploit. If it is I will leave TeamPlayers if they don't agree to stop it. Proly go join that indie corp with 5 guys and get that KEQ guy to admit we're ballers

Any of you non EoN people still feel like drinking this guys coolaid?

Heck, any of you bored out of your minds EoN people feel like changing things around a little bit?

Zatara? You almost bit at the idea to switch sides, or perhaps your response was just a troll... anyone else?

I reserve the right to tell any one to Fu*k off, but I have finally gotten approval to open up some of the board to aspiring corporations.

Those that have backed out of the 'war' and those that speak English and have no bruised knees from spending time in Sha's VIp room are free to inquire.

Corps that have brought forth good matches without using a pile of ringers are more than welcome to inquire.

contract hunters
3dge of Darkness
even Foxhound Corp, you have impressed the right people in your recent efforts

undoubtedly many others.

please contact me on Skype: chicagocubsnbears or in game


these lands are not cheap. and every deal is potentially different. coming to trying to lowball me simply wont work.

This is yet another favor Team Players and Eon. is doing for the community of Dust.

we've proven its gonna take you 2 years to actually TAKE the land from us, so I'm willing to simply sell it to you and send you on your merry way.

anyone who thinks this is a scam, please feel free to talk to anyone who has dealt with me... the word doesn't even compute with me.

In my entire e-sports career (im playing for more than 12 years) i never met a team that was talking
so much proud b$ like you guys.

@ ER

I ask for a dev to confirm it's an exploit.

I meant advantage as in beneficial...but not unfair. As in just because I have an advantage (say because I'm more athletic) doesn't mean I have it unfairly or exploited. But let's not play semantics. You get the point I made.

If people couldn't attack us by watching timers...then PC would be broke. If we could make profits form locking up...PC would be broke. Get a dev on it and I'll do everything I can to stop it's use.

Otherwise it seems like you guys are unsure it's truly an exploit that needs fixing...perhaps because it doesn't and it's a strategic way of controlling the land you've won.

0.02 isk.

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I drink no mans Kool-aid and love logical conversations. Also...bacon

Cool beans. I am learning as I go, and up until Zelkain posted TP's "secrets" I honestly didnt even know it was going on.

Yup we started locking them up Sat night when the fighting began to die so we could tell our guys they could have guaranteed days off. LOLOL fight 100+ battles and I'd say it was time for a day off.

To be upfront locking them up was my idea. I told them some guys needed a few days to get back up and cited the AE loss as a principal case in point of us losing fights because our guys weren't fresh. Last night we won against AE (with arirana got over 20+ again) with a clone pack and freshly rested players.

If locking was not an option I doubt the stamina of all our guys would rival the stamina of cubs, xero, hightimes, fiddle, doc, and I.

Maybe...if we'd lost a bunch and that was the reason we locked them....but we only lost like 10-12 fights...and one district. No doubt about it teamplayers could destroy this war for our own districts...can't speak for the alliance however.

But we locked em cause I wanted a full day off....the attacks we already diminishing.

Did we ever say we could own MH prior to this war? I must have missed that....proof or are you lying?

The only ones I see throwing a fit is the haters on locking....and I'm trying to have a conversation about it that no one is engaging in...

ZR I appreciate your candor and honestly and am only trolling because of the obvious hypocrisy. I have to ask in your endeavors of domination from two districts to your current success did anyone try and lock block you from attacking? What was your impression of that opponent?

Look I'll make no claims of being able to take a district from you but I find it awfully frustrating that you can prevent even the effort by "taking a break" especially when the entire community is constantly being bleated with how great and unstoppable you are. All I've ever heard from Mavado and Cubs is that the only way to get better is to fight the better competition. Guess what we hear that loud and clear and here to answer that call, where are you?

I dont see what the deal is. You guys locked our districts and it is legit. Like A Boss locks ours and we dodging?

Using the same tactic that you are. We will not fight an asymmetrical war. You want land? Come and play. So far of the teams I have played against only Valor Coalition, KEQ, and AE have impressed me even a little bit (tourney matches aside). Rest of you come get it...

Or you can buy it.

If you are trying to get better, stacking timers isn't going to help you. Seeing what you can do with a 5 minute lead up 8 guys is nice and all but... Nice try though.

ZR I appreciate your candor and honestly and am only trolling because of the obvious hypocrisy. I have to ask in your endeavors of domination from two districts to your current success did anyone try and lock block you from attacking? What was your impression of that opponent?

Look I'll make no claims of being able to take a district from you but I find it awfully frustrating that you can prevent even the effort by "taking a break" especially when the entire community is constantly being bleated with how great and unstoppable you are. All I've ever heard from Mavado and Cubs is that the only way to get better is to fight the better competition. Guess what we hear that loud and clear and here to answer that call, where are you?

Cubs has been throwing that line around a lot, Im not going to hunt through every single thread hes done some posturing in though since that would take all day and you right now saying your corp alone could destroy the war also carries implications of "We can do whatever we want and no one can stop us" despite locking them showing no you guys really cant if you need to call for a time out to rest up

Now Ive looked through the thread and you have been seemingly the most reasonable but its the kind of duplicitous reasonable with weaseling around, saying you didnt mean this you actually meant something else, playing semantics with the words exploit and advantage, and just generally avoiding things when people try to take you to task and play the positive PR role
Sadly thats undermined by your inconsistencies and your corp mates tantrums

But all in all for a guy like me that has no stake in any of this and is just watching from the sidelines I say keep it up, this whole situation is really good for a laugh

And how am I or anyone not a director TP at all responsible for the number of timers you have?

Zatara's words mean nothing.

Remembers OP's Dirty Secret? That was Zataras alt and ever since he screwed up and posted on his main he retired his alt.

We all know how much sh!t he talked on TP and all of EoN before he screwed himself, he's 2 faced and not worth the time. He'll defend hes daddy cubs till the end supporting the lies.

So essentially...you couldn't find quotes even though he's been throwing the line around a lot?

I am pretty reasonable. Or at least try to be..Some of this is too convoluted for me to understand cause I'm not very bright but I'll try.

So clarifying when someone tries to nail to to a word and not the words intent is weaseling, got it. I'll try to be more specific.

Avoiding things? I've been asking for a conversation and reason why locking is an exploit and not a tactic, and all I got is nothing so far from anyone, so who seems to be avoiding? I answered the question head on.

My corp mates tantrums? You mean Cubs? Tantrums might be a bit overstating but that's just my opinion. Hope i'm still entitled to one around here.

I'll try to keep going and get through all this. Thanks for the support.

Yes. Though locking districts is an expensive means of avoiding. Less so now, but still most couldn't afford to do this. Delta Force did this I remember and it cost them quite a bit.

The main way people have tried to avoid fights with us is by setting timers to early morning when they wouldn't even be on.

Pro Hic, Mass Terror, WarRavens...you name it...some even sent mails saying to the effect of "Good luck waking up early for this one b1tches." And it was a legitimate tactic....we didn't cry here about having to be extra diligent in order to secure those districts...and with a little diligence you guys could snipe contracts...see where I'm coming from?

I personally led the attack recently that trolololod Mass Terror's district, even with 10-12 ringers from Nyan San. I had to get up at 4 am...and organize a battle. It wasn't funsies like doing it at 8pm, but I wanted it bad enough. I wanted it more than Mass Terror did anyways...

I can see that it's frustrating to have all that momentum especially with PI basically calling it quits, and your guys using AE with Arirana to get some districts from SyN and Red* along with the multiple stacked timers resulting in a few wins as well, and just plain winning against Giant and Rogue Spades...

You guys deserve what you've won. We stacked em and we lost em. You won em fair and square.

Now, at our own expense we can play it similar to how many tried to avoid fights by locking up....and fighting unburdened by our timers vulnerability...but we can't do it forever...

Is it hypocritical to do it?

If we'd locked up from the beginning then yes completely hypocritical. And I would be fighting against EoN with whoever I deem to have the teamwork and dedication to win.

But we met you head on and didn't lock a thing for 5 days. I want to keep going. i want catharsis....but don't keep putting in one attack each day from 5 corps and AE and call it a war...day one was war...day 2 was war...day 3 was war....day 4 you guys stopped attacking...day 5 I rarely heard any calls for help in EoN PC....and I beat AE's 120 clones pack attempt (and laugh now because the AE alt said they only lost cause 120 clones cause we beat them with 120 yesterday)

Overall..I want more conversation. where are you coming from? Do you see at all where I'm coming from?