Oh and you still never answered my question if you would do this all over again. knowing what you know now, seeing past alliances who you deemed as "evil" or "terrorists" attempted to do the same thing you all have been successful in doing.

You cite quality over quantity time and time again, but when faced with a tough question you point to other alliances having MORE MEMBERS THAN YOU as if that means anything when discussing the "blue donut" effect. Quality vs Quantity works when it benefits your position in an argument, but not the other way around? silly.

There is no way to tell how many of those "other alliance" members are still active, but we know EoN still has enough active members with skill, time and isk to beat back hundreds of attacks from the FEC and win many many more fights than they have lost, at least according to propaganda.

Your rebuttles are getting weaker and weaker each time you respond on here Mavado. I agree you should stop, and talk in private with leadership to see if you all can figure out how to right these wrongs. Do you really think you still have a leg to stand on now that a large chunk of the community is knocking on your door saying "what the **** is this **** you all are trying to do over here", for lack of a better more thoughtful description.