Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.

So your saying with the 3-4k constant players those games are good for dust? I predict a dramatic drop in numbers and Dust will really b dead.

Actually it will do better BC without whiny CoD Bois, we can achieve balnce

What we need to do is all go onto CoD and Thukker their game up as a retaliation, Lets turn it into Call of Campers

Why would the COD people be playing Dust when they could just be playing COD right now? I think your logic is flawed.

Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.

I just dont see where dust is gonna get the numbers anymore at this point. Ppl who wanted to try it - did. The vast majority has left. Ppl usually don't circle back to old games unless they were massively popular. CCP Shanghai just did too many things wrong. Unless Dust extends cross platform we are not gonna have the numbers. And if Dust goes PC, it will kill PS3 base. No one wants to be target practice for KBM goons.

Yes, they'll leave. But then they'll come back after realizing the meaninglessness of it all.

I think there's an awful lot of peeps who pop back in to DUST every couple of months or so just to see how things are going. If the next two patches do their job, some small percentage of those peeps will stay.

I think some of the peeps who tried DUST(maybe 25%) understood the potential and where CCP could take this if they could just get their sheet together and make the core work. They're the ones who keep checking in.

And the rest will eventually try again through word of mouth and rising review scores. A lot of those reviewers who gave DUST a low score were being absolutely honest, but personally, many reviewers wanted DUST to succeed. They will be quick to re-review DUST as soon as we dig ourselves out of this hole.

What gives my argument weight is this: 3,751,792 mercenaries! form Chribba's dustboard: http://dustboard.com/global/

I'll be the first to say that's a grossly inflated number, but it's a big number.

Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.

Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.

But without AR users, who will I mow down with my mass driver?

Your logic is flawed. That amount of mercs made includes those made by us who have multiple alts. Secondly, out of all those mercs made, almost none of them even play the game anymore. Most folks that were going to try out it, did so, and then left. We are all that is left with the exception of a few noobs once in awhile that trickle in and stay, but most don't.

I am not excited for destiney... it just seems one of those games I rather wait to be in the bargain bin to try out, I am sorry but there is nothing compelling me to try that game out.

The hero art is almost a turn off too.

Its like bungie forgot how to make armored people look heroic. There's nothing iconic about most of the characters and I find it extraordinarily sad the enemies are far more interesting to look at and to associate with.

I mean its not like they should ran out of ideas, look at war frame for example dozens of different classes yet each one unique iconic to its own. Hell Dust 514 has a far better imposition of our own character archetypes.

Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.

I think there's an awful lot of peeps who pop back in to DUST every couple of months or so just to see how things are going. If the next two patches do their job, some small percentage of those peeps will stay.

I think some of the peeps who tried DUST(maybe 25%) understood the potential and where CCP could take this if they could just get their sheet together and make the core work. They're the ones who keep checking in.

And the rest will eventually try again through word of mouth and rising review scores. A lot of those reviewers who gave DUST a low score were being absolutely honest, but personally, many reviewers wanted DUST to succeed. They will be quick to re-review DUST as soon as we dig ourselves out of this hole.

What gives my argument weight is this: 3,751,792 mercenaries! form Chribba's dustboard: http://dustboard.com/global/

I'll be the first to say that's a grossly inflated number, but it's a big number.

I want to spend time in Destiny, but only enough to get a solid handle on what they achieve with their core shooter mechanics. Mostly for purposes of comparing with DUST.

I really want to see what they choose to do with players from different regions and how lag affects the gun game in Destiny.

The world building and party building and mission aspect with coop encounters don't really do it for me. I see elements of Warhammer, AOC, and Defiance in Bungie's choices, I've tried all that before and meh.

What might save it all is the pvp, and if they can sucessfully integrate that into the larger world. I'm thinking they can't, but we'll have to wait and see.