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Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
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Posted - 2013.08.25 18:47:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not excited for destiney... it just seems one of those games I rather wait to be in the bargain bin to try out, I am sorry but there is nothing compelling me to try that game out.
The hero art is almost a turn off too.
Its like bungie forgot how to make armored people look heroic. There's nothing iconic about most of the characters and I find it extraordinarily sad the enemies are far more interesting to look at and to associate with.
I mean its not like they should ran out of ideas, look at war frame for example dozens of different classes yet each one unique iconic to its own. Hell Dust 514 has a far better imposition of our own character archetypes. I want to spend time in Destiny, but only enough to get a solid handle on what they achieve with their core shooter mechanics. Mostly for purposes of comparing with DUST. I really want to see what they choose to do with players from different regions and how lag affects the gun game in Destiny. The world building and party building and mission aspect with coop encounters don't really do it for me. I see elements of Warhammer, AOC, and Defiance in Bungie's choices, I've tried all that before and meh. What might save it all is the pvp, and if they can sucessfully integrate that into the larger world. I'm thinking they can't, but we'll have to wait and see. Why do ppl talk about Destiny so much in coparison to Dust? I thought Destiny is some story campaign FPS that will have some Co-Op token online component. It's graphically far superior to Dust but hardly a worthwhile comparison. It will have PvP as well even though most people are getting it for the PvE |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.08.25 18:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Well COD has no vehicles
BF3.5 has poor vehicles
Destiny has capes and graphics
DUST has broken controls
ADHD kids and infantry which cant deal with vehicles will all **** off, im fine with it
You forgot a part, and besides what you don't realize is that the CoD fans and stuff have already left. The people that are leaving now have a different name. It's called "Your Playerbase" |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
648
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:33:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Well COD has no vehicles
BF3.5 has poor vehicles
Destiny has capes and graphics
ADHD kids and infantry which cant deal with vehicles will all **** off, im fine with it Bf3 poor vehicles you really just say that in a dust forum lmfao |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
995
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:37:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:What we need to do is all go onto CoD and Thukker their game up as a retaliation, Lets turn it into Call of Campers
well, you see, unlike this game that people love to complain about, there is 0% chance of COD devs giving a **** about what you want and will just cater to the worst players, you know....to make them feel like they are good. you will be wasting your time. just get em out of here and hit em with the door on the way out |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3521
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:42:00 -
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tbh, GTA5 will have the same effect |
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Demon Ronin
862
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:44:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back. The issue is not trying to drive ALL of them out so the only people left are the kind of people who populate MechWarrior Online, and are all massive neckbeards with bad ideas.
was actually about to mention mech warrior. lol |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4099
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:53:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.
1. lolno most of the vets already gone, more are goin to leave
2. how is more ppl LEAVING the game GOOD for the game? no game has ever gotten better by its playerbase consistently leaving that says something about the game. get out the bubble
3. why do ppl always assume ppl play cod? yall realise that one statement makes yall look ignorant as ****. Cod ppl wont touch dust at all, neither will bf players. U think ppl that like cod and bf actually ON dust atm for MONTHS/YEAR? no they already left ages ago buddy. Notice that player count goin from 9K to 4K now? ya thats all the ppl that tried DUST and realised it was subpar and left to play smoother better games not beta test a released game.
The quicker ppl like u get ur heads out ur asses and realise that dust is in a very very bad situation atm the quicker CCP can see that and attempt to salvage the game.
This game is not attracting new players, its not retaining players and as time passes its only gonna keep losing players if it keeps on goin on at this fail rate with **** up after **** up by CCP.
FPS games arent EVE, this is a console game for console crowd and console crowd isnt the PC/EVE crowd that will stick around playin a bad game in the HOPES that one day it will get good and console players dont also usually return to games they moved on from. So that batch of 4-5K ppl ccp lost prob wont see them back
Why do u think CCP isnt marketing DUST with commercials etc? because doin that now will only HURT the game more. Time for yall to srsly wake up and stop snortin that CCP crack cuz it will only lead to extreme disappointment later on when ur fanboi living in a bubble attitudes get popped by increasingly lowering numbers.
There are some positives that can work in CCP favour. CCP does, unlike other devs, hav a 2nd chance to redo and relaunch DUST on PS4 and market it so we'll see how it plays out but too many "YES Men" on these forums that just take w/e CCP tosses at them and praises it for being the greatest thing ever.
Have a good day ladies and gentlement Mav out. |
Mary Sedillo
Pure Innocence. EoN.
249
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:54:00 -
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And you are a ****-talking tanker who doesn't know what he is doing. Moving on. |
Minako Nakajima
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:59:00 -
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Last COD i played was Blops... didn't like it... But i like the features in COD:Ghosts.
BF3 went "meh" to me when they announced the "Premium" stuff... Only bought the Close Quarters expansion.
I have no idea what's on BF4... too lazy to search... enlighten me please?
I like Dust 514... and i don't want it to die... :(
CAL HEAVY AND LIGHT MODELS PLS? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
862
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:03:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back. 1. lolno most of the vets already gone, more are goin to leave 2. how is more ppl LEAVING the game GOOD for the game? no game has ever gotten better by its playerbase consistently leaving that says something about the game. get out the bubble 3. why do ppl always assume ppl play cod? yall realise that one statement makes yall look ignorant as ****. Cod ppl wont touch dust at all, neither will bf players. U think ppl that like cod and bf actually ON dust atm for MONTHS/YEAR? no they already left ages ago buddy. Notice that player count goin from 9K to 4K now? ya thats all the ppl that tried DUST and realised it was subpar and left to play smoother better games not beta test a released game. The quicker ppl like u get ur heads out ur asses and realise that dust is in a very very bad situation atm the quicker CCP can see that and attempt to salvage the game. This game is not attracting new players, its not retaining players and as time passes its only gonna keep losing players if it keeps on goin on at this fail rate with **** up after **** up by CCP. FPS games arent EVE, this is a console game for console crowd and console crowd isnt the PC/EVE crowd that will stick around playin a bad game in the HOPES that one day it will get good and console players dont also usually return to games they moved on from. So that batch of 4-5K ppl ccp lost prob wont see them back Why do u think CCP isnt marketing DUST with commercials etc? because doin that now will only HURT the game more. Time for yall to srsly wake up and stop snortin that CCP crack cuz it will only lead to extreme disappointment later on when ur fanboi living in a bubble attitudes get popped by increasingly lowering numbers. There are some positives that can work in CCP favour. CCP does, unlike other devs, hav a 2nd chance to redo and relaunch DUST on PS4 and market it so we'll see how it plays out but too many "YES Men" on these forums that just take w/e CCP tosses at them and praises it for being the greatest thing ever. Have a good day ladies and gentlement Mav out.
way to go mavado, just leave me with nothing else to add on since you hit on all points. |
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Demon Ronin
862
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:18:00 -
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Dust 514 a lobby shooter without any FPS competitive players. I can see how wild things can possibly get. Maybe later adding dice dynamics to the fighting.
*exciting*
yup. it would be a as edgy and dangerous as eve online |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
221
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:30:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back. lol. The truth is you cant fight with an AR.
Just keep spending money on my game and you can lolplay all you want. You can call your style "niche" all you want. Everyone knows its clown spam
#clownspamdenialthread |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7752
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:48:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Well COD has no vehicles
BF3.5 has poor vehicles
Destiny has capes and graphics
DUST has broken controls
ADHD kids and infantry which cant deal with vehicles will all **** off, im fine with it You forgot a part, and besides what you don't realize is that the CoD fans and stuff have already left. The people that are leaving now have a different name. It's called "Your Playerbase"
I would like to state based on the complaints in general discussion are still arguably against your statement. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
652
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:05:00 -
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Look at bf4 vids on youtube and tell me that game sucks..ill be in the beta soo |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
418
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Look at bf4 vids on youtube and tell me that game sucks..ill be in the beta soo
Just about the same as the one before it. bf5 is gonna be like bf4. And so on into infinity. Nothing to get terribly excited about unless bf is your cup of tea in general. Ppl play Dust because it promised to be something different than bf and cod. Unfortunately so far it mostly fell on its face because of poor execution. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:35:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote: I think there's an awful lot of peeps who pop back in to DUST every couple of months or so just to see how things are going. If the next two patches do their job, some small percentage of those peeps will stay.
I popped back in yesterday to see how things were going, 10 (yes 10) AFKers on my team and 3 redline campers leaving 3 of us facing a Murder taxi, a Forge sniper on a roof and half a dozen protobears .... so ... yeah. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:42:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Vrain Matari wrote: I think there's an awful lot of peeps who pop back in to DUST every couple of months or so just to see how things are going. If the next two patches do their job, some small percentage of those peeps will stay.
I popped back in yesterday to see how things were going, 10 (yes 10) AFKers on my team and 3 redline campers leaving 3 of us facing a Murder taxi, a Forge sniper on a roof and half a dozen protobears .... so ... yeah.
Sounds fun!! Isn't this what DUST is all about?! |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
1142
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:43:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back. lol. The truth is you cant fight with an AR. Just keep spending money on my game and you can lolplay all you want. You can call your style "niche" all you want. Everyone knows its clown spam #clownspamdenialthread
Oh no. I have been accused of not being able to use the the light weapon with the highest DPS in the game combined with a hit-scan damage system with variants that excellent beyond the ranges of every other light weapon save the laser and sniper (light weapons only).
The AR is good at everything. Face- you've been a fotm guy for awhile. |
Sir Eos
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:10:00 -
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What's that term people use......
Hipster?
There is a reason CoD is the most succesful FPS on the market. But if you want to hate on it because you can't handle it....
Then I have only this to say... Eat **** loser.
Take any and EVERY FPS ever made to date, and compare it to CoD. And you will proabably, if you don't let your ****** mentality get in the way, Realize that CoD has more depth, better controls, better maps, more players, more weapons, more options than ALL OF THEM!
What does Counter Strike have that CoD doesn't? What does Wolfenstein have that CoD doesn't? What does Halo have that CoD doesn't? What do any of them have?
Whatever you may come up with, CoD has done it... and did it better.
Let's look at what other FPS's have.... A lower player count? Stupid playlists that mix slayer gametypes into each and every playlist making every playlist a team slayer playlist? Or maybe playlist called Action Sack, which the community tries to explain is a perfect substitute for server browsers and custom gaming?
Hating on CoD makes you look stupid. It does not make you cool, it does not make you smart.... IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID!
Especially when most of you don't even have a reason to hate on it other than... It stays very much the same game as the last with every itteration.
I wonder why?!?!?!?!
Because you don't fix what aint broke! That is why it stays the same and ever so slowly improves with each one.
What the hell do you want out of CoD? For them to turn it into an RTS instead? Then it will no longer be CoD at that point.
If a game like Dust with it's ******** timesink is what classifies as innovation in the FPS arena.... You're mental.
I'm actually glad that Dust is failing. Because I want it to send a message to other devs on what not to do. Which is pretty much everything.
The timesink The bland maps The oversized maps The amount of vehicles The amount of time it takes to kill The amount of teamwork required to enjoy yourself
Everything about this game is a fail. |
Sir Eos
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:26:00 -
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Honestly....
I'm gonna to say it again.
Why does dust even give you control of your character?
If they are so hell bent on making Dust play like EvE. They should just give you a window with a list of targets. Let you pick one, and watch the battle unfold automatically. Because that, is pretty much going to be the final outcome of what idiots like you want out of an FPS. |
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Octavian Vetiver
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:30:00 -
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Sir Eos wrote:What's that term people use......
Hipster?
There is a reason CoD is the most succesful FPS on the market. But if you want to hate on it because you can't handle it....
Then I have only this to say... Eat **** loser.
Take any and EVERY FPS ever made to date, and compare it to CoD. And you will proabably, if you don't let your ****** mentality get in the way, Realize that CoD has more depth, better controls, better maps, more players, more weapons, more options than ALL OF THEM!
What does Counter Strike have that CoD doesn't? What does Wolfenstein have that CoD doesn't? What does Halo have that CoD doesn't? What do any of them have?
Whatever you may come up with, CoD has done it... and did it better.
Let's look at what other FPS's have.... A lower player count? Stupid playlists that mix slayer gametypes into each and every playlist making every playlist a team slayer playlist? Or maybe playlist called Action Sack, which the community tries to explain is a perfect substitute for server browsers and custom gaming?
Hating on CoD makes you look stupid. It does not make you cool, it does not make you smart.... IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID!
Especially when most of you don't even have a reason to hate on it other than... It stays very much the same game as the last with every itteration.
I wonder why?!?!?!?!
Because you don't fix what aint broke! That is why it stays the same and ever so slowly improves with each one.
What the hell do you want out of CoD? For them to turn it into an RTS instead? Then it will no longer be CoD at that point.
If a game like Dust with it's ******** timesink is what classifies as innovation in the FPS arena.... You're mental.
I'm actually glad that Dust is failing. Because I want it to send a message to other devs on what not to do. Which is pretty much everything.
The timesink The bland maps The oversized maps The amount of vehicles The amount of time it takes to kill The amount of teamwork required to enjoy yourself
Everything about this game is a fail.
Because lets be honest. An FPS that requires you to have to schedule beforehand to get your "Friends" online, so that you can finally play and actually enjoy it..... is a fail. Sometimes you have to think about the individual. This is why CoD is great, because it allows you to enjoy yourself as an individual and as a member of a team.
Dust fails because it forgot about the individual.
And you cannot forgot about the individual when you take in the context of what you are trying to make.
An FPS, on a console, being played over the internet. HELLO!?!?!?!
No, I just find it extremely boring and unrealistic with all the people running around playing rambo. Especially when everything is so evenly matched. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
901
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:36:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Look at bf4 vids on youtube and tell me that game sucks..ill be in the beta soo Just about the same as the one before it. bf5 is gonna be like bf4. And so on into infinity. Nothing to get terribly excited about unless bf is your cup of tea in general. Ppl play Dust because it promised to be something different than bf and cod. Unfortunately so far it mostly fell on its face because of poor execution.
Will Dust 514 be like Dust 514 10 years from now?
FAN BOY LOGIC is not LOGIC!!!!
(Gò»-¦Gûí-¦n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ |
Octavian Vetiver
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:42:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Look at bf4 vids on youtube and tell me that game sucks..ill be in the beta soo Just about the same as the one before it. bf5 is gonna be like bf4. And so on into infinity. Nothing to get terribly excited about unless bf is your cup of tea in general. Ppl play Dust because it promised to be something different than bf and cod. Unfortunately so far it mostly fell on its face because of poor execution. Will Dust 514 be like Dust 514 10 years from now? FAN BOY LOGIC is not LOGIC!!!! (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
It'll still have shooting in it. By then though we'll probably have real bodies with faces, the ability to play games in station, open battlefields depending on the server tech, and the ability to knife, or shoot EvE players or even each other in the face in a station hallway out of site of security. Along with all the varied PVE/PVP that could possibly be added. Maybe even go clean out Kyonoke Pit. |
First Prophet
Valor Company Incorporated
874
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:50:00 -
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Yeah. Losing the 10 or so COD players who still bothered with this game will make a real difference. I do like your optimism though. I wish I could still believe we aren't already down to vets too. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
866
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:03:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ok, I'll ask.. What's Kyonoke Pit? |
Octavian Vetiver
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kyonoke_Pit_%28Chronicle%29 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7756
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:52:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Vrain Matari wrote: I think there's an awful lot of peeps who pop back in to DUST every couple of months or so just to see how things are going. If the next two patches do their job, some small percentage of those peeps will stay.
I popped back in yesterday to see how things were going, 10 (yes 10) AFKers on my team and 3 redline campers leaving 3 of us facing a Murder taxi, a Forge sniper on a roof and half a dozen protobears .... so ... yeah.
read patch notes. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
756
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:56:00 -
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Sir Eos wrote:What's that term people use......
Hipster?
There is a reason CoD is the most succesful FPS on the market. But if you want to hate on it because you can't handle it....
Then I have only this to say... Eat **** loser.
Take any and EVERY FPS ever made to date, and compare it to CoD. And you will proabably, if you don't let your ****** mentality get in the way, Realize that CoD has more depth, better controls, better maps, more players, more weapons, more options than ALL OF THEM!
What does Counter Strike have that CoD doesn't? What does Wolfenstein have that CoD doesn't? What does Halo have that CoD doesn't? What do any of them have?
Whatever you may come up with, CoD has done it... and did it better.
Let's look at what other FPS's have.... A lower player count? Stupid playlists that mix slayer gametypes into each and every playlist making every playlist a team slayer playlist? Or maybe playlist called Action Sack, which the community tries to explain is a perfect substitute for server browsers and custom gaming?
Hating on CoD makes you look stupid. It does not make you cool, it does not make you smart.... IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID!
Especially when most of you don't even have a reason to hate on it other than... It stays very much the same game as the last with every itteration.
I wonder why?!?!?!?!
Because you don't fix what aint broke! That is why it stays the same and ever so slowly improves with each one.
What the hell do you want out of CoD? For them to turn it into an RTS instead? Then it will no longer be CoD at that point.
If a game like Dust with it's ******** timesink is what classifies as innovation in the FPS arena.... You're mental.
I'm actually glad that Dust is failing. Because I want it to send a message to other devs on what not to do. Which is pretty much everything.
The timesink The bland maps The oversized maps The amount of vehicles The amount of time it takes to kill The amount of teamwork required to enjoy yourself
Everything about this game is a fail.
Because lets be honest. An FPS that requires you to have to schedule beforehand to get your "Friends" online, so that you can finally play and actually enjoy it..... is a fail. Sometimes you have to think about the individual. This is why CoD is great, because it allows you to enjoy yourself as an individual and as a member of a team.
Dust fails because it forgot about the individual.
And you cannot forgot about the individual when you take in the context of what you are trying to make.
An FPS, on a console, being played over the internet. HELLO!?!?!?! +1. My feeling is that these observations re the individual are right on the money. It has to be the starting point.
And then you provide all the slippery-slope access points into New Eden that you can and let nature take it's course. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7756
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:58:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kyonoke_Pit_%28Chronicle%29
What makes this sound scary is this sounds very similar to what wiped out the sleepers and talocan as uncovered wormhole expeditions. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
710
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Posted - 2013.08.26 00:27:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Most of the whiny CoD Bois will leave and we'll mostly have the hardcore vets and niche weapon users who want true balance in Dust- not AR 514. I honestly can't wait. Only a few more months, guys, and we can have our game back.
Only a few more months and the Dust 514 playerbase will DROP.
In November the Old and Busted PS3 gets sent down the river in favor of the New Hotness! PS4!!
Why am I going to come back to an old platform??
Why am I going to stop playing EXCELLENT PS4 games???
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