At first, I thought people may be overreacting to the SL changes coming up in 1.4, without taking the time to really understand how they will impact things. However, after doing this analysis, it looks like vehicle users (and tankers especially) are being dealt another blow, with the vehicle-rebalancing 1.5 patch still more than a month away.

However, things get progressively worse for tankers past the 4th volley. As you can see from the timeline, in 1.4 it will only take 14.1 seconds to launch 6 Swarm Launcher volleys, whereas it currently would take 19.7 seconds. So it will take 5.7 seconds less time to unload 2 full Swarm Launcher clips once 1.4 is release.

At first, I thought people may be overreacting to the SL changes coming up in 1.4, without taking the time to really understand how they will impact things. However, after doing this analysis, it looks like vehicle users (and tankers especially) are being dealt another blow, with the vehicle-rebalancing 1.5 patch still more than a month away.

...with Op V the lock on is 1.05s, right? Think your figures need reviewing.

1.2 seconds: 1st volley launched (1.2 second lock-on time)
3.2 seconds: Fire interval delay finished
4.4 seconds: 2nd volley launched
-----Tanks Recieves damage from 1st swarm, 2nd swarm already imbound both invisible--

At over 3k armor damage per volley (proto swarms with proficiency).. you are looking at incredible alpha. 4 Proto SL rockets would be able to take out any armor tank, even with modules running.

So if you're in an armor tank, the only recourse once a SL user has locked onto you is to hop out of your tank and accept the financial loss.

Maybe the numbers I'm looking at are off but I'm only getting ~2800-2900 with proto+proficiancy V w/ armor bonus.

Edit: I was off, coming just short of 3k/volley apparently.

BTW swarms with operation at level 5 have 5 volleys per clip. After 1.4 it will be 3.

CCP should give side gunners the ability to shootdown rockets.

Look at the numbers, look at the ROF

3 in a clip doesnt matter you can fire more faster than the old system

If that happened be fun

Also 5 WP per missiles shot down

Blasters would be best for this

I would love that turret

In reality, there is literally no change in fire rate. If anything, it was nothing more than a nerf. After extensive use of Swarms today, there is still a built in cycle time. I'm launching them no faster than before, only now I have to reload at 3 instead of 5. A net nerf.

Theorycraft is great, but application shows what's really going on.

Your results on application seem to be different than those of others who have tested them. More opinions needed?

Edit : with operation 5 skilled by the way ... You guys DO realise the stated increase in lock time is only affecting level 5 operation ? Level 4 has same lock time as previous and 1-3 all have a LONGER lock time now !

In reality, there is literally no change in fire rate. If anything, it was nothing more than a nerf. After extensive use of Swarms today, there is still a built in cycle time. I'm launching them no faster than before, only now I have to reload at 3 instead of 5. A net nerf.

Theorycraft is great, but application shows what's really going on.

Your results on application seem to be different than those of others who have tested them. More opinions needed?

"Analysis of Swarm Launchers in 1.4"

Didn't anyone noticed the ammo nerf on Swarm launchers? The ammo skill is practically required now. I had a guy notice a drop in rounds and then choke when he realized he already had the ammo skill at level 2.

A pair of K2 nanohives should last you a whole match.

I would like to point out that (when warm launcher rockets are seen by others) things get progressively worse in terms of survival for anyone shooting more than one round of swarm rockets.

I'm a "crutch" swarm user. RoF is notably faster to me.
But I run out of ammo faster which means blah blah blah...

Level 5 Op / Level 4 Prof. No reload skill yet. Complex mods also.
Tankers and dropship users thank those llav murder taxi drivers everytime I shoot at you guys.
They are the reason I spec'd "crutch" swarms. I started walking with a limp from getting hit so
often I NEEDED a crutch.

no worries, because of swarmers, i get INTO my murder taxi and out of my tank, since i had to spec into the damn thing anyway.

no skin off my back

On the field though its rare-ish for a swarm launcher operator to empty two magazines unharassed even by the tank. Hell had 3 guys trying to swarm launch me and the squad jumped on them and stomped them all to death, took 1 lav, 2 havs and 3 grenade throwing infantry to kill me that one match. Next match forge gun blew me into pieces.

iws....i cringe when i see you talking about vehicles.

were you even aware that swarms have stupid, across-the-map range again? if that swarmer was getting shot at then he is doing it wrong. any tank can survive when he isnt actually getting shot at. Also, did YOU survive or did your squad KEEP you alive?

Realistically speaking, unless you have a squad that isnt already busy hacking for your team, as blueberries are all busy sniping, tanks dont get support like that. I mean, hell, i cant remember the last time a blueberry actually went to kill AV for me, they just run the other way>>

otherwise, good match

On the field though its rare-ish for a swarm launcher operator to empty two magazines unharassed even by the tank. Hell had 3 guys trying to swarm launch me and the squad jumped on them and stomped them all to death, took 1 lav, 2 havs and 3 grenade throwing infantry to kill me that one match. Next match forge gun blew me into pieces.

iws....i cringe when i see you talking about vehicles.

were you even aware that swarms have stupid, across-the-map range again? if that swarmer was getting shot at then he is doing it wrong. any tank can survive when he isnt actually getting shot at. Also, did YOU survive or did your squad KEEP you alive?

Realistically speaking, unless you have a squad that isnt already busy hacking for your team, as blueberries are all busy sniping, tanks dont get support like that. I mean, hell, i cant remember the last time a blueberry actually went to kill AV for me, they just run the other way>>

otherwise, good match

They only have to get off two volleys because the FG douche who is rolling around in CQC with his Ishukone Assault Forge is right on your six and have fired 3 shots into your rear.

My ears are burning.

At times I do tag team with a proto SL while cruising in my LAV. We roll up behind HAVs, jump out, and HULK SMASH. Or at least we used to pre-1.4. Waiting on more bug fixes before using the main again.