You wont when 3 volleys with at least 3 times your hp alphas you

I dont care if you dont believe me

Swarms are no skill fact and easy to use because fire and forget with no aim and skill required, missiles around corners and can lock on through stuff and keep lock on when not looking at target - facts

Basic vs proto - fact and even more so in PC

Why should i bother with a defender of the crutch, your even defending the buffs its recieving because it makes it easier to use so your obv an idiot anyways

I normally don't get hit by a swarm in the first place though because I have several escape plans in motion all the time.
Even the protos if they do hit me I usually get away in time before the second launch is in the air.

You wont anymore follow around cover 3 volleys 7k damage at least pop goes the milita tank

Further proof you don't use them that often. Swarms take a degree of skill in ensuring the launch will connect. A rookie swarmer launcher against a really good tank pilot will only get 10% connection rate.

I dont care if you dont believe me

Swarms are no skill fact and easy to use because fire and forget with no aim and skill required, missiles around corners and can lock on through stuff and keep lock on when not looking at target - facts

Basic vs proto - fact and even more so in PC

Why should i bother with a defender of the crutch, your even defending the buffs its recieving because it makes it easier to use so your obv an idiot anyways

1.5 and a post about that is coming soon.

1.4 is about infantry controls, Swarm launchers where the only weapon that had a factor where the player was 'not in control' breach forge guns are a close second but those operators can easily melee/discharge out of it. Swarms can't do a damn thing about being 'locked' up in being able to do anything for an unusually long amount of time.

Any pilot who has done serious amounts of AV will KNOW the threat vector and how to counter, with swarm operators in close range you're usually better off killing the guy because he's screwed in general unable to move or escape that easily if he is attempting a second launch. Silhouette of a swarm launcher is pretty distinctive and unmistakable and easy to spot.

Long range swarms you just have to be a bit more aware and get to cover better and always have an escape plan and don't sit in the freaking open all the time.

Further proof you don't use them that often. Swarms take a degree of skill in ensuring the launch will connect. A rookie swarmer launcher against a really good tank pilot will only get 10% connection rate.

Lock Vehicle.
Jump.
Shoot up.

Skill. Lol.

I love watching people try to justify this.

Watch swarms hit the roof while putting a rocket though the swam launcher operators head.

360x360 warfare doctrine, adopt it.

Why would you need to be launching Swarms from indoors?

Here are some figures in the form of a table!

http://i.imgur.com/tLiMw1K.png?1

Pre-patchPost-patch
clip53
ammo (max skills)88
lock on time (max skills)1.21.05
fire interval20.3
reload (max skills)3.8253.825
Time to exhaust clip14.83
Time to exhaust clip + reload20.6257.125
Time to exhaust ammo (inc. reloads)27.42518.15Boost
Burst ROF (single clip)0.341.00194%
Exhaust ammo ROF0.290.4452%

So a 194% boost to burst ROF and a 52% ROF increase to exhausting all your ammo.

IWS first you are on crack again, stop it and yes i am blaming you for this buff.

You wont when 3 volleys with at least 3 times your hp alphas you

Tanks are resistant to nearly all weapons - Fact Wrong, all weapons do damage even ARs
Tanks are more mobile than any infantry - Fact In a straight line, turning is **** and we cant go into the city perse
Tanks have greater fire power - Fact Wrong, AV is stronger than all tanks and do more damage than all turrets
Tanks have better range - Fact Wrong, currently on par with each other
A standard level tank is more than a match for standard and advanced swarms - Fact Wrong, adv can easily put a dent into you more than basic, basic can handle basic

Swarms are all about positioning - Fact You mean on an unreachable tower? or the crest of a far away hill where we cant hit? no they are not
Swarm users are incredibly fragile if they are fit to truly kill a tank - Fact If only my blaster can kill 400m away
Infantry is not invulnerable to any weapon - Fact You are a walking meatbag
Missiles dont actually swerve around corners unless they are already on top of you - Fact Wrong, missiles curve any corners at usually all distances because it tracks where your tank was not where it is now
You lose lock through obstacles - Fact Wrong, you can see the turret the square pops up and you lock on but hit the hill because the missiles go for the bottom of the tank
The tank needs to be visible to acquire lock - Fact Only partly visable, so half right
You lose lock if you look away - Fact Wrong, you said it yourself you gain about an extra 2seconds extra its how ppl lock on then look up and fire so the missiles go over ther cover and hit the tank

I do drive a Sica, and I don't have to wonder why swam launcher operators just seem to stand there as a launch, I know exactly why, the methods I use an an AV and being simply aware of them helps keep my own vehicles alive.

I also know there that there is a desync issue between operating a swarm which will NEVER go around corners, through walls and fly at a CONSTANT speed. Whereas a third person observer and/or victim, swarms do the weirdest crap such as the terminal kill vector is hyper speed.

While I agree with the fix, I don't agree with the new numbers, the lock could have been added 2 seconds total and the reload lengthened.

And if you haven't guessed yet, answer is G.

Why would a tank park underneath a building?

Let's work some rough numbers out.

Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher, Proficiency II, two Complex Damage. 330*5=1650 base damage. Damage bonus is 24% with stacking penalty, roughly? Make it 25% for ease of arithmetic. 2062.5 damage per salvo.

Shield effectiveness 80%, 2062.5 becomes 1650 damage... wait, is that right? Heh, back to base.

Armor effectiveness 135%, 2062.5 becomes 2784.375 I think.

Lock on at Op V is 1.05s, delay before acquiring following locks is 0.3. Clip size is 3.

0.0s Start lock #1
1.05s Fire #1
1.35s Start lock #2
2.4s Fire #2
2.7s Start lock #3
3.75s Fire #3

Credit to ZDub for already laying this one out. The important part is all 3 salvos offloaded in 3.75 seconds.

In 3.75 seconds you have sent off a trio of salvos that will strike within 4 seconds of each other in most cases.

Shield damage: 4950 within 4 seconds
Armour damage: 7353.125 within 4 seconds

Crazy, huh? This isn't even a max damage thought-experiment. Doesn't even cost that much SP, about 800k for the Swarms and 600k for Handheld Weaponry, about 1.5 mil SP in all.

Numbers were run in my head so might be slightly off but probably not by much.

I didn't think it would have gotten fixed this way...

So you are responsible for it.

Defender of the crutch talks more gibberish to protect his super no skill OP weapon

Local moron dodges argument