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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
292
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:23:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask.
* Double facepalm *
I have just lost all faith in CCP.
I am also calling for CCP Cmdr Wang's resignation letter. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4471
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:24:00 -
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Why are you even here? |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
472
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:26:00 -
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You must not get it. It makes sense. You must not have a brain to get it. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1980
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:26:00 -
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Analogies are hard. Perhaps you should go back to stealing cars? |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
292
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here?
Why does it matter why I am here.
Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3241
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:26:00 -
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I believe that is a thing called a metaphor, about doing something that has never been done before, and the difficulties involved. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1135
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:28:00 -
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Yeah if we wanted to send a man to the moon now, it wouldn't be that difficult. It's just expensive, and takes a lot of time to train someone. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
472
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:32:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Yeah if we wanted to send a man to the moon now, it wouldn't be that difficult. It's just expensive, and takes a lot of time to train someone.
He was referring to the Apollo mission. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:32:00 -
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People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
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RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
329
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:32:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon?
You are just kind of neurotically attacking ANYTHING they say. I'm sure they could say the most benign comment and you would attempt to twist it into some form of vileness. Unstable teens do this frequently, it's highly annoying and really just makes you want to throw them out into the street. Either to never return or come back a reformed person, both are equally acceptable. |
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Washlee
Pure Innocence. EoN.
257
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:33:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Yes many |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
720
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:36:00 -
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I don't always comment on troll posts, but when I do, it's because you're an idiot. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
964
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:37:00 -
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CCP dev decide to stand up and not take any **** today
Hurts OP feelings yet these are the same ppl who give them **** nonstop for every little thing
Frankly tough ******* ****
If you dont like the tone of the CCP dev then maybe GTA V isnt for you, ive heard its got swearing and other nastys in it that we must protect you from |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
472
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:38:00 -
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RoundEy3 wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? You are just kind of neurotically attacking ANYTHING they say. I'm sure they could say the most benign comment and you would attempt to twist it into some form of vileness. Unstable teens do this frequently, it's highly annoying and really just makes you want to throw them out into the street. Either to never return or come back a reformed person, both are equally acceptable.
I like this guy....... |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
442
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:39:00 -
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Washlee wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Yes many
ie. CCP Blam!
RIP
-XOXO
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1168
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:40:00 -
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I think you should layoff cmdr Wang, its obvious he isn't having a good day so just let him chill. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
184
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:46:00 -
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I really do not like to agree with this gta 5 fan boy over here but he has a very valid point.
What is so special about dust? Its just another fps. It has less players in a match than other games, it has worse graphics than other games. It has no features that haven't been done better or more complex in other games ... (I'm thinking TITAN mode in BF2142 here and that's what we need badly.)
Ok so interaction with eve you say? Just a basic activation of a air strike. Whoopy doo.
I like this game and given the right treatment it could become something quite special. Having said that don't try and fool us that this game is something radically different from what we already have in the market.
Face up to the challenge or Feck off. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
475
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:49:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I really do not like to agree with this gta 5 fan boy over here but he has a very valid point.
What is so special about dust? Its just another fps. It has less players in a match than other games, it has worse graphics than other games. It has no features that haven't been done better or more complex in other games ... (I'm thinking TITAN mode in BF2142 here and that's what we need badly.)
Ok so interaction with eve you say? Just a basic activation of a air strike. Whoopy doo.
I like this game and given the right treatment it could become something quite special. Having said that don't try and fool us that this game is something radically different from what we already have in the market.
Face up to the challenge or Feck off.
Give it a year or two, and you'll be saying the same thing the EVE noobs were saying. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3683
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:49:00 -
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OP, you are an absolute moron if you don't get the analogy. Have you ever created a game of one genre on one platform that directly connects and interests with a different genre of a different platforms and not have problems?
Now throw in a dynamic player run economy, full blown industry, figuring out how to generate tens of thousands of maps for tens of thousands of planets, how to make it work with Eve online sovereignty warfare, faction warfare, and the meta game with politics, and you got yourself a game so complex that it may as well be easier to put a man on the moon. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1280
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:51:00 -
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gbghg wrote:I believe that is a thing called a metaphor, about doing something that has never been done before, and the difficulties involved. A bad metaphor at that, since the orders of magnitude are nowhere near the same. Nonetheless I get what Cmdr Wang is trying to say and won't bash him for it. |
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RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
334
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:57:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I really do not like to agree with this gta 5 fan boy over here but he has a very valid point.
What is so special about dust? Its just another fps. It has less players in a match than other games, it has worse graphics than other games. It has no features that haven't been done better or more complex in other games ... (I'm thinking TITAN mode in BF2142 here and that's what we need badly.)
Ok so interaction with eve you say? Just a basic activation of a air strike. Whoopy doo.
I like this game and given the right treatment it could become something quite special. Having said that don't try and fool us that this game is something radically different from what we already have in the market.
Face up to the challenge or Feck off.
I agree with this honest and plain type of view. I just can't enjoy DUST extensively #1 just because of poor system performance and the controls.
Between bad frame rates, connection lag from whatever, and numb slow control input I get an intense headache if I play for a long time. I mean a real life, "Ahh my head ******* hurts for the next few hours headache."
I see so many balance, nerf, and statistical threads about items in the game. I cannot believe people can put up with the functionality to complain about little things like that.
So with that said, does anyone here play Crysis 3 on PC? |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
286
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:02:00 -
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They are aware of everything you guys are complaining and I'm sure they are doing their best to fix all...
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Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:05:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I really do not like to agree with this gta 5 fan boy over here but he has a very valid point.
What is so special about dust? Its just another fps. It has less players in a match than other games, it has worse graphics than other games. It has no features that haven't been done better or more complex in other games ... (I'm thinking TITAN mode in BF2142 here and that's what we need badly.)
Ok so interaction with eve you say? Just a basic activation of a air strike. Whoopy doo.
I like this game and given the right treatment it could become something quite special. Having said that don't try and fool us that this game is something radically different from what we already have in the market.
Face up to the challenge or Feck off. Give it a year or two, and you'll be saying the same thing the EVE noobs were saying.
Lol a year...Okay...No...Lol...Just no..Too many good things will be out in a year. In less than 90 days, the PS4 hits shelves, in even less than that GTA 5 releases. In 2 days my gaming PC will be complete, and you expect people to play this...Lie...For 365 more days...Lol okay.
The argument that people will come back to their PS3's for a couple months was sound (I've heard that argument around the forums) But average people will not be turning on their last gen system (That only had one masterpiece by the way TLoU) after a year. After a year they'll have a sizable library of PS4/XB1/WiiU/Steam games, and won't be thinking about DUST. Least not till it hits PS4. |
Poonmunch
DUST University Ivy League
206
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:07:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1201909#post1201909* Double facepalm * I have just lost all faith in CCP. I am also calling for CCP Cmdr Wang's resignation letter.
Why a double facepalm?
To your knowledge has there ever been a console game attached to a PC game in the history of gaming?
It might be actually quite complex to do.
Munch
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
185
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:OP, you are an absolute moron if you don't get the analogy. Have you ever created a game of one genre on one platform that directly connects and interacts with a different genre of a different platforms and not have problems?
Now throw in a dynamic player run economy, full blown industry, figuring out how to generate tens of thousands of maps for tens of thousands of planets, how to make it work with Eve online sovereignty warfare, faction warfare, and the meta game with politics, and you got yourself a game so complex that it may as well be easier to put a man on the moon.
Bollocks!
No player run economy, heck I cant even sell items I don't want! Not even want to buy contracts.
Full blown industry? Don't see anything like that here.
Tens of thousands of maps? You mean the 3 or 4 maps with a few turned around buildings oh and occasionally a bit of white snow texture. Yes we have sooooo many totally unique maps.
**** does anyone remember Unreal Tournament? That had more gamemodes, more maps and that was back in the late 90s!
Yes very complex. Turn on game, join battle. Kill and die, make isk. Go back to quarters, buy more weapons, upgrade a few skills. Nothing complex about that.
And as currently we have no real interaction with eve I see no complexities. Also its not like the devs have been putting down groundwork or information on where they would like to go next , you know
"Hey guys look at this picture, look at these graphs, here's some text explaining what we would like to do next. Can we get player feedback?" |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
334
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:08:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:They are aware of everything you guys are complaining and I'm sure they are doing their best to fix all...
I hope so. I don't mind grilling CCP on something that I would consider a major type of problem, but I don't like the idea of every word a DEV speaks to the community to be completely shat upon. That is not cool. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:08:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:OP, you are an absolute moron if you don't get the analogy. Have you ever created a game of one genre on one platform that directly connects and interacts with a different genre of a different platforms and not have problems?
Now throw in a dynamic player run economy, full blown industry, figuring out how to generate tens of thousands of maps for tens of thousands of planets, how to make it work with Eve online sovereignty warfare, faction warfare, and the meta game with politics, and you got yourself a game so complex that it may as well be easier to put a man on the moon.
No I have not created any such game and neither has CCP, they have only dreamed that they could create it and they have not delivered on any of your wish list items you mentioned in the second paragraph of your LOL reply. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:15:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:
Bollocks!
No player run economy, heck I cant even sell items I don't want! Not even want to buy contracts.
Full blown industry? Don't see anything like that here.
Tens of thousands of maps? You mean the 3 or 4 maps with a few turned around buildings oh and occasionally a bit of white snow texture. Yes we have sooooo many totally unique maps.
**** does anyone remember Unreal Tournament? That had more gamemodes, more maps and that was back in the late 90s!
Yes very complex. Turn on game, join battle. Kill and die, make isk. Go back to quarters, buy more weapons, upgrade a few skills. Nothing complex about that.
And as currently we have no real interaction with eve I see no complexities. Also its not like the devs have been putting down groundwork or information on where they would like to go next , you know
"Hey guys look at this picture, look at these graphs, here's some text explaining what we would like to do next. Can we get player feedback?"
Wow...Yeah...This. This is truth. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:17:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:
Why a double facepalm?
To your knowledge has there ever been a console game attached to a PC game in the history of gaming?
It might be actually quite complex to do.
Munch
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men Lost Planet: Colonies Phantasy Star Online Shadowrun BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger Uno Final Fantasy XI Online Universe at War: Earth Assault Game Room Team Fortress 2[5] Portal 2[6] Dust 514 with Eve Online
You have just been schooled Son now STFU and GTFO.
Think before you speak kid, something CCP Cmdr Wang could use a leason or two on as well.
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Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
286
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:21:00 -
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Consider some facts about this game: 1- CCP IS a small team compared to the developers of others FPS.... 2- The game is not yet completed ... It will ALWAYS get more updates 3- This game is already 200% better than the first time I played (back in Beta 2012 ... can't remember the build tought ...) 4- As Cmdr Wang said, NOBODY ever done this before... The comparison between getting to the moon is just an analogy to this ... not the difficulty 5- It takes time to develop a good game... 6- When I got tired of DUST , I went on and played something else... 7- When you make a petition to "fire" someone... be aware that is his job ... he surely needs it... otherwise he would just stay home and don't listen to this BS all the time...
Btw OP... I agree with Maken... You're a moron.... |
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
587
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:22:00 -
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Dude, GTFO!!!! Now!!! Why are you even here??? Why are the majority of constant complainers still are here!? You guys are annoying man to the point where I wouldn't mind punching you in the nose. You complain, complain and complain. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4474
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:25:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? Why do you feel the need to troll the forums when you probably don't have Dust installed anymore? |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? Why do you feel the need to troll the forums when you probably don't have Dust installed anymore?
Why are you so Mad Bro?
Be a fanboy if you want and don't let my opinion matter.
I find it sad that these Devs have their heads so far up their own rears that they dare compare making this game the same as putting a Man on the Moon.
Dude get over it and move on, really it will be alright.
I am sure you and your other fanboy friends will be playing this LOL broke game for many more years to come despite my opinion. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:39:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Dude, GTFO!!!! Now!!! Why are you even here??? Why are the majority of constant complainers still are here!? You guys are annoying man to the point where I wouldn't mind punching you in the nose. You complain, complain and complain. Because tears from persons like you fuel us.
BTW you complain, complain, complain about us complaining so why don't you take your own advice and STFU and GTFO. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4476
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:44:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? Why do you feel the need to troll the forums when you probably don't have Dust installed anymore? Why are you so Mad Bro? Be a fanboy if you want and don't let my opinion matter. I find it sad that these Devs have their heads so far up their own rears that they dare compare making this game the same as putting a Man on the Moon. Dude get over it and move on, really it will be alright. I am sure you and your other fanboy friends will be playing this LOL broke game for many more years to come despite my opinion. Mad? Fanboy? Far from it, just curious. Seems like you're putting a lot of unnecessary effort into something you shouldn't care about. If I didn't like a game I would simply go play something else instead of trolling a forum all day. You either have too much time on your hands or deep down inside you really do give a ****. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:45:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Dude, GTFO!!!! Now!!! Why are you even here??? Why are the majority of constant complainers still are here!? You guys are annoying man to the point where I wouldn't mind punching you in the nose. You complain, complain and complain.
Complaining is fun, and there is a lot to complain about. Now if you'll excuse me...I have some complaining to do! |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:49:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Cosgar wrote:Why are you even here? Why does it matter why I am here. Why are CCP Devs comparing making this game as hard as putting a Man on the Moon? Why do you feel the need to troll the forums when you probably don't have Dust installed anymore? Why are you so Mad Bro? Be a fanboy if you want and don't let my opinion matter. I find it sad that these Devs have their heads so far up their own rears that they dare compare making this game the same as putting a Man on the Moon. Dude get over it and move on, really it will be alright. I am sure you and your other fanboy friends will be playing this LOL broke game for many more years to come despite my opinion. Mad? Fanboy? Far from it, just curious. Seems like you're putting a lot of unnecessary effort into something you shouldn't care about. If I didn't like a game I would simply go play something else instead of trolling a forum all day. You either have too much time on your hands or deep down inside you really do give a ****.
Its a little of both really.
I have been playing since closed beta and have dumped some real $ into this thing with the hope that some day CCP will wake the Flip up and give us the game they promised us.
Since then and at every patch I have lost faith and hope in all the broken promises.
Then came the great abandon ship CCP staff did when they saw this game failing.
Well ever since then meh who cares.
So yeah deep down inside I hope someday this game is all it is/was supposed to be but until then the troll side of my feelings will be spewed all over the place. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
303
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:51:00 -
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Looking at comments, seems like you actually facepalmed yourself. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
200
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:53:00 -
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Come on GTA-V, we both know whats going on over here. I haven't seen Planetside2 PS4 in a while but I'm sure he spawned you right after he came u with the clever clever idea of posting the most transparent inflammatory comments he could think of. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:56:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Looking at comments, seems like you actually facepalmed yourself. I did, I am sad.
I am sad that I fell for all the promises, dreams, and lies that CCP has been feeding us for the last couple of years.
When one of the head Developers of this dream comes forward and compares this to as hard it was as putting a Man on the Moon all hope just lifted off into space.
I am sad panda and now I am turning into mad troll.
* Looks in mirror and smashes it in disgust at what I have turned into. * |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
690
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:00:00 -
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I get what he's trying to say, but, well... it's a bad analogy because it really makes light of the Apollo mission. The fallout the comment will cause is very predictable.
Not a big deal, sure, but it's obvious some people will blow it out of proportion for the above reason. Something it probably would have been sensible not to say just because people will not be sensible in their reaction to it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5830
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:04:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:gbghg wrote:I believe that is a thing called a metaphor, about doing something that has never been done before, and the difficulties involved. A bad metaphor at that, since the orders of magnitude are nowhere near the same. Nonetheless I get what Cmdr Wang is trying to say and won't bash him for it. Now if he were talking about Star Citizen then maybe he'd be a bit more in line :p
I'm not calling Wang out or anything, it's just a turn of phrase, I get up in arms plenty often over fairly small things, this is just sad though. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
339
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:04:00 -
[43] - Quote
Wow...May I be so bold as to say this rant is concluded?
If so I think everyone made a real break through today. This was a very productive day on the DUST 514 therapy forums. Everyone, come back whenever you think you need to and don't forget to take your thorazine everyday. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3180
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:05:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Really? That's all you've got?
Move on people, nothing to see here. |
DRDEEZE TWO POINTO
LEGIONCOMBATCREW
107
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
You do realize this is a free game right. |
Ren Ratner
Infinite Raiders
71
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:08:00 -
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Washlee wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Yes many
But keep it quiet. |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
46
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
if it talks like a troll, types like a troll and thinks like a troll..........(why even create this thread? the OP is taken from another perfectly reasonable place to make this troll fest. what do you anticipate achieving with this..... troll?)
Edit: the OP character's name says it all. nothing constructive to gain here. move along, move along. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
298
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
jamstar saa187 wrote:if it talks like a troll, types like a troll and thinks like a troll..........(why even create this thread? the OP is taken from another perfectly reasonable place to make this troll fest. what do you anticipate achieving with this..... troll?)
Therapy! |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
576
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
this is a terrible metaphor and it shows his arrogance...
why didn't he compare this game to the making of the first tennis shoe, or indoor plumbing, or even the 1st in home game console?
because that is not grandiose enough for wangs big head....
no it has to be the moon because that's how important he feels what ccp is doing is.
it shows how high above us, the little annoying gamers who play their master creation are.
its arrogant pure and simple...
but if it was just this comment by itself it wouldn't be as big a deal, however he basicly told us all to STFU as well.
I don't expect the minority of wang kissers to get how rude and ego driven his comments are but the majority of us get that he has insulted us....
the scary part is he does it without seeming to realize it in the same way you push your pet off a piece of furniture you want to sit on... this is probably whats most insulting... |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
154
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
GTA-V FTW wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1201909#post1201909* Double facepalm * I have just lost all faith in CCP. I am also calling for CCP Cmdr Wang's resignation letter. Troll |
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Iago Templar
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
17
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:26:00 -
[51] - Quote
Calling for a persons resignation is over the top by quite a margin.
I for one Support CCP Cmdr Wangs comments this is a very difficult task to accomplish, people are assuming that because the in game economies aren't linked yet then clearly its not being worked on. Or that because no new content has come out that people in CCP HQ are sitting on their arse twiddling their thumbs.
The reality is they are working very hard in small teams in order to bring this stuff to you as soon as they can and they are trying to get it right and no amount of whining and bitching is going to bring it out quicker!
So what I am saying is :-P |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
156
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:29:00 -
[52] - Quote
Seymor Krelborn wrote:......minority of wang kissers to get..... Tehe sorry Seymour, but you said wang kissers Hahahahahahaha I'm so mature :p |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3181
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:31:00 -
[53] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:......minority of wang kissers to get..... Tehe sorry Seymour, but you said wang kissers Hahahahahahaha I'm so mature :p I'm honestly kind of surprised it took this long for this kind of post to be made. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
Iago Templar wrote:Calling for a persons resignation is over the top by quite a margin. I for one Support CCP Cmdr Wangs comments this is a very difficult task to accomplish, people are assuming that because the in game economies aren't linked yet then clearly its not being worked on. Or that because no new content has come out that people in CCP HQ are sitting on their arse twiddling their thumbs. The reality is they are working very hard in small teams in order to bring this stuff to you as soon as they can and they are trying to get it right and no amount of whining and bitching is going to bring it out quicker! So what I am saying is :-P Example of a wang kisser right here ^ lol. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1147
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:40:00 -
[55] - Quote
dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3182
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:42:00 -
[56] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm Kinda makes you wish these forums had a Karma system, doesn't it? |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:51:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm Kinda makes you wish these forums had a Karma system, doesn't it?
That way you could get rewarded for sucking CCP's wang so hard. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:55:00 -
[58] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm
edit: flash repsone to OP didnt see the thread was 3 pages sorry :(
These forums and threads are just for fun, when I want to get things done for real I go to the IRC.
Devs do not take these forums for real. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
121
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:55:00 -
[59] - Quote
GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Wow, I wouldn't normally say this, because being rude is just not something I do, but you honestly shouldn't post any more nonsense.
It's fitting that Eve is on its second decade, and I think this line has special meaning: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
Way to step it up CCP. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
813
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
Quote: So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there.
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! |
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1148
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:56:00 -
[61] - Quote
Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm Kinda makes you wish these forums had a Karma system, doesn't it? That way you could get rewarded for sucking CCP's wang so hard.
if your going to troll please be cleaver and smart about. also saying that to one person who is openly clashing with how CCP wang is doing things just makes you look more stuip.
in fact please stop posting because your actions are lowering the average IQ of the ENTIRE forum by about 10 points. also i prey your smart enough to understand that joke |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:00:00 -
[62] - Quote
@OP What have you done in your life that warrants you being a condescending douche? I'm guessing since you have time to troll online forums, you haven't done anything that spectacular. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
342
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:02:00 -
[63] - Quote
The only thing I have to say about the whole "going to the moon" comment.
Sorry CCP, despite what your most devoted of fans may tell you, EVE is not real. The moon is real. When DUST is out of beta you cannot say "the eagle has landed".
Bwahaha! |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
121
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:04:00 -
[64] - Quote
RoundEy3 wrote:The only thing I have to say about the whole "going to the moon" comment.
Sorry CCP, despite what your most devoted of fans may tell you, EVE is not real. The moon is real. When DUST is out of beta you cannot say "the eagle has landed".
Bwahaha! Sorry, that comment is reserved for when the Eagle HAC gets an actual balancing pass.
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:05:00 -
[65] - Quote
CuuCH Crusher wrote:@OP What have you done in your life that warrants you being a condescending douche? I'm guessing since you have time to troll online forums, you haven't done anything that spectacular. Nope I have done nothing with my life. How bout you what spectacular things have you done? |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3183
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm Kinda makes you wish these forums had a Karma system, doesn't it? That way you could get rewarded for sucking CCP's wang so hard. Nah, I'd be heavily in the negatives because Noc Tempre would go an -1 every single post I've ever made. |
Bad Heal
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
71
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
I was actually offended by CCP Cmdr Wang's statement. How dare you compare this to NASA's lunar landings. You're not even close to being in the same category for comparison.
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Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:dude just shut up, people like you are the very reason why developers dont take us seriously all they see is the BS you post up and think their playerbase is a joke, while the few of us trying to open an effective dialog just get drowned out.
i really wish there was a closed off forum where players who proved they can be useful could hang out so we dont have to deal with all the bullcrap that comes from letting anyold idiot join a fourm Kinda makes you wish these forums had a Karma system, doesn't it? That way you could get rewarded for sucking CCP's wang so hard. if your going to troll please be cleaver and smart about. also saying that to one person who is openly clashing with how CCP wang is doing things just makes you look more stuip. in fact please stop posting because your actions are lowering the average IQ of the ENTIRE forum by about 10 points. also i preyyour smart enough to understand that joke
You're talking about MY intelligence? Oh and..."I" is always capitalized. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
Bad Heal wrote:I was actually offended by CCP Cmdr Wang's statement. How dare you compare this to NASA's lunar landings. You're not even close to being in the same category for comparison.
I was more disappointed in why he said it more so than what he said TBH.
If he thinks that this game is that hard to Develop then who knows when we will be getting the game we have been promised.
I feel let down.
What is worse is that he says this in a 1.4 patch notes thread just before 1.4 patch notes come out.
Its kinda like him saying to us that we should not be expecting so much from 1.4 because it is a very hard game to Develop and 1.4 will not fix all the issues.
My hope and faith balloon deflated. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
104
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:15:00 -
[70] - Quote
@OP Have you ever considered that they are working on 2 versions of the game, to run on 2 different Architectures. I agree the game is not where it should be, both for performance and feature set. But they launched this game (ps3 version) So close to the announcement of the PS4, knowing full well that they needed to start work on the PS4 version.
And remember while there planning features like the player driven market place or PVE they have to tie it into the Lore and Meta game, while at the same time not unbalancing/wrecking the EVE side meta game. |
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
89
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:18:00 -
[71] - Quote
GTA-V FTW wrote:CuuCH Crusher wrote:@OP What have you done in your life that warrants you being a condescending douche? I'm guessing since you have time to troll online forums, you haven't done anything that spectacular. Nope I have done nothing with my life. How bout you what spectacular things have you done?
Don't worry GTA-V, with your neurosis and hair trigger attacks against CCP, I'm sure Fox News will be offering you a job soon. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:20:00 -
[72] - Quote
Icedslayer wrote:@OP Have you ever considered that they are working on 2 versions of the game, to run on 2 different Architectures. I agree the game is not where it should be, both for performance and feature set. But they launched this game (ps3 version) So close to the announcement of the PS4, knowing full well that they needed to start work on the PS4 version.
And remember while there planning features like the player driven market place or PVE they have to tie it into the Lore and Meta game, while at the same time not unbalancing/wrecking the EVE side meta game.
I might have agreed with this excuse if it were not for the fact that CCP has stated a number of times they they are 100% committed to supporting the PS3 version fully until they are happy with the product and then they will port it over to PS4.
So no I do not agree with this statement at all. |
Kane Banned
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:21:00 -
[73] - Quote
Bad Heal wrote:I was actually offended by CCP Cmdr Wang's statement. How dare you compare this to NASA's lunar landings. You're not even close to being in the same category for comparison.
Ever heard of a metaphor? |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:22:00 -
[74] - Quote
Soldner VonKuechle wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:CuuCH Crusher wrote:@OP What have you done in your life that warrants you being a condescending douche? I'm guessing since you have time to troll online forums, you haven't done anything that spectacular. Nope I have done nothing with my life. How bout you what spectacular things have you done? Don't worry GTA-V, with your neurosis and hair trigger attacks against CCP, I'm sure Fox News will be offering you a job soon.
It is sweet that you all are so worried about me, ahhhhh thanks guys.
But hey do not worry about me so much I will be okay with my none spectacular life. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
This is why DUST is failing.
Look at the Valkerie team. They don't seem to be having problems with development and they're doing something cutting edge and phenomenal.
Really CCP China? Developing a little oil' FPS on an old engine is so hard? You don't even have to make the damn game run on a Still in development VR screen.
CCP England has that **** NOW. They said it might never happen a few months ago. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
203
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
GTA-V FTW wrote:Bad Heal wrote:I was actually offended by CCP Cmdr Wang's statement. How dare you compare this to NASA's lunar landings. You're not even close to being in the same category for comparison.
I was more disappointed in why he said it more so than what he said TBH. If he thinks that this game is that hard to Develop then who knows when we will be getting the game we have been promised. I feel let down. What is worse is that he says this in a 1.4 patch notes thread just before 1.4 patch notes come out. Its kinda like him saying to us that we should not be expecting so much from 1.4 because it is a very hard game to Develop and 1.4 will not fix all the issues. My hope and faith balloon deflated.
You need to go open the curtains and the window and take a few deep breaths of fresh air. To get this precious over an analogy on pioneering made by a member of CCP is lame as hell .
Come on kid, shave your palms and go get some serotonin out there in the sunlight...there is more to life than D514. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:02:00 -
[77] - Quote
THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:You need to go open the curtains and the window and take a few deep breaths of fresh air. To get this precious over an analogy on pioneering made by a member of CCP is lame as hell . Come on kid, shave your palms and go get some serotonin out there in the sunlight...there is more to life than D514.
Nah, I will just wait till September 17th.
I like my hairy palms.
Hairy left palm upside down and backwards is like someone else is doing it. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
868
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:09:00 -
[78] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Washlee wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Yes many ie. CCP Blam! RIP -XOXO
Wait.
Did Blam really die? |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
255
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:19:00 -
[79] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Washlee wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:People lost their lives trying to get to the Moon! Has anyone died while developing this game?
Yes many ie. CCP Blam! RIP -XOXO Wait. Did Blam really die?
a drunk rdv pilot dropped an lav on him
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
266
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:32:00 -
[80] - Quote
This new CCP guy could be hit or miss. He seems to be a "Take no crap" kinda guy...I like it. |
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