Well I was in a match yesterday, I was using my '9k what ever' forge gun [the advanced one]. I put 4 rounds into one of the armor dropships in the sky, his health went down to 0, I could see it flaming and falling through the sky, yet somehow he managed to reapir and pull back and get away.

What type of bollocks is this?

He even managed to come up to me later that game, I put another forge round into him, but he was too close and he just landed on top of me and squashed me. You want to talk about balance? How about when anything reaches 0 hit points it blows up. Stuff that can resurrect itself from death is bull crap.

As we should all know by now, AV and vehicals are going to be changed in 1.5 and most likely 1.6 and will be changed completly. as evident in this post:



So, im going to go through the whole list of AV weapons in different threads and try to collect a non biased collection of feedback the Devs can use to change vehicals and AV. So remember, what we post here is what they may listen to. Ive started a discussion on Plasma Cannons in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145262#post1145262
Also, this link is the AV nade discussion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=99452
and finally, the swarm launcher discussion https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101971 Feel free to throw in your thoughtful and reasonable ideas in ethire.

What are your ideas for Forge Gun rebalance?
Remember to ALWAYS give reasons on your ideas, we dont want to give the DEVs crap to read. Put up a convincing argument!!

Personally, i think the Forgegun is mostly balanced considering we only have standard HAVs vs proto AV. With my experience with the end Chromosome Sagaris (ADV level tank) the Forge has not changed by much and is fairly balanced, the damage output is almost fair, tho it does most likely do a tad too much damage, only by maby 300 points, very minor. However, we do not have anything past standard tanks, tho the weapon in scale is not OP, it is currently OP to standard tanks, standard tanks do not stand up well to proto forge guns, they eat them up within a single clip. This is exactly what should happen, it shouldent take much more than a single clip for a proto forge to kill a standard tank. Sadly we are most deffenetly not getting the additional tanks needed to fix the balance issiue, the proto forge will annihilate our standard level tanks for many months to come untill additional, more powerful vehicals are released. Unless the tanks are getting a monsterious buff, we should temporarily remove the proto forge unitll tanks are strong enough to require proto forge monsters.

However, there is an aspect were the Forge Gun is absurd and too multi purposed. The splash on the forge is okay, it has a balanced strength and blast radius but this splash is abused for holding down objective hacking panels, especially PC. When there is a FG above an objective you simply can not capture the objective, as the splash on the assualt FG kills all hackers. This makes this AV weapon an anti everything weapon, if you are able to kill infaintry it should be a direct hit because it is an anti vehical weapon, it does not need splash to kill vehicals and the idea that it ever did is laughable. This weapon is currently to versatile for an AV weapon, an extreemly effective AV weapon at that. The splash should be removed to define its battlefeild role, it is almost the ultimate tactical weapon when placed above ground, like the flaylock was as a sidearm

Stop crying already. All you do is cry. If you suck, and 99% of the complainers do ... go to another game. I don't play everyday and spec into these weapons for you little girls to come here crying about period cramps. GET OFF IT ALREADY! Every week you pick another weapon " to nerf" and these lames at CCp just keep sucking it up .. and killing the game by nerfing it. OP is the player behind the gun .. not the gun .. yall just suck terribly.

From the flaylock to the scrambler rifle, to the swarm launcher to the contact grenades... now the forge? I understand you started late... and you are a garbage player... so everything that kills you is OP ... too bad. Why CCP keeps penalizing the players who have played the longest .. and have the most sp .. by nerfing guns they have been using .. because all the noobs that try to play get killed quick. IT MAKES NO SENSE> I have 20 mill sp .. and been playing since b4 open beta ... I have proto forge lvl 3 .. I've been using a forge gun.. as I am a heavy... n there are only 2 heavy guns... im a dedicated player ... I should not be constantly penalized because new guys can last on the field.
Fact of the matter is... at one point ... as a noob / new player - every gun was op .. if we were going against it... so time goes on.. u get more armor n shield n u get quicker n better & stronger weapons.. n then u will 1 day be "op" too ..or at least equal to those who been playing. so relax your complaining woman-like feedback in these forums ... and go kill something.
You afk trash bags complain more than anyone else. You want to do $hit match after match .. n then when u finally get caught n killed... u come to the forums to shed tears.. GET A GIRL FRIEND ... and u old guys .. GET A WIFE ... how long has it been since u bust a nut? All that crying must be a reflection of how backed up yall are. Get a chic n let 1 off... yall need it..


CCP leave these forge along... if its able to take out a tank .. then a ground merc .. should be easily taken out as it is now ... if u have no aim .. the forge sux... close range .. the forge sux.. mid range if your aim isn't golden.. the forge sux...
the ones crying nerf ... check there sp & wp .. im sure they are very low... they need more time playing n less time crying.. n the weapons in dust wont seem op.... because they aren't.



1.4 is a heavies dream update... I feel sorry for you women crying op now.... after 1.4 don't let me see you on the battle field ..

You dont make any sense? I bet your just mad because we vehicles have made a good point and you can see a nerf coming, the OP said he wanted evidence and you have given a shambles post with just opinons... I think you should calm down a little
And try not to make a fool out of yourself

I'm down with losing splash radius, **** I'm ok with losing all of it.

I also wish it were harder to score a direct hit, not much harder, but something, cuz I rarely miss :/

As we should all know by now, AV and vehicals are going to be changed in 1.5 and most likely 1.6 and will be changed completly. as evident in this post:



So, im going to go through the whole list of AV weapons in different threads and try to collect a non biased collection of feedback the Devs can use to change vehicles and AV. So remember, what we post here is what they may listen to. Ive started a discussion on Plasma Cannons in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145262#post1145262
Also, this link is the AV nade discussion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=99452
and finally, the swarm launcher discussion https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101971 Feel free to throw in your thoughtful and reasonable ideas in either.

What are your ideas for Forge Gun rebalanced?
Remember to ALWAYS give reasons on your ideas, we dont want to give the DEVs crap to read. Put up a convincing argument!!

Personally, i think the Forge gun is mostly balanced considering we only have standard HAVs vs proto AV. With my experience with the end Chromosome Sagaris (ADV level tank) the Forge has not changed by much and is fairly balanced, the damage output is almost fair, tho it does most likely do a tad too much damage, only by maybe 300 points, very minor. However, we do not have anything past standard tanks, tho the weapon in scale is not OP, it is currently OP to standard tanks, standard tanks do not stand up well to proto forge guns, they eat them up within a single clip. This is exactly what should happen, it shouldn't take much more than a single clip for a proto forge to kill a standard tank. Sadly we are most definitely not getting the additional tanks needed to fix the balance issue, the proto forge will annihilate our standard level tanks for many months to come until additional, more powerful vehicles are released. Unless the tanks are getting a monstrous buff, we should temporarily remove the proto forge until tanks are strong enough to require proto forge monsters.

However, there is an aspect were the Forge Gun is absurd and too multipurpose. The splash on the forge is okay, it has a balanced strength and blast radius but this splash is abused for holding down objective hacking panels, especially PC. When there is a FG above an objective you simply can not capture the objective, as the splash on the assault FG kills all hackers. This makes this AV weapon an anti everything weapon, if you are able to kill infantry it should be a direct hit because it is an anti vehicle weapon, it does not need splash to kill vehicles and the idea that it ever did is laughable. This weapon is currently to versatile for an AV weapon, an extremely effective AV weapon at that. The splash should be removed to define its battlefield role, it is almost the ultimate tactical weapon when placed above ground, like the flaylock was as a sidearm

As we should all know by now, AV and vehicals are going to be changed in 1.5 and most likely 1.6 and will be changed completly. as evident in this post:



So, im going to go through the whole list of AV weapons in different threads and try to collect a non biased collection of feedback the Devs can use to change vehicals and AV. So remember, what we post here is what they may listen to. Ive started a discussion on Plasma Cannons in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145262#post1145262
Also, this link is the AV nade discussion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=99452
and finally, the swarm launcher discussion https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101971 Feel free to throw in your thoughtful and reasonable ideas in ethire.

What are your ideas for Forge Gun rebalance?
Remember to ALWAYS give reasons on your ideas, we dont want to give the DEVs crap to read. Put up a convincing argument!!

Personally, i think the Forgegun is mostly balanced considering we only have standard HAVs vs proto AV. With my experience with the end Chromosome Sagaris (ADV level tank) the Forge has not changed by much and is fairly balanced, the damage output is almost fair, tho it does most likely do a tad too much damage, only by maby 300 points, very minor. However, we do not have anything past standard tanks, tho the weapon in scale is not OP, it is currently OP to standard tanks, standard tanks do not stand up well to proto forge guns, they eat them up within a single clip. This is exactly what should happen, it shouldent take much more than a single clip for a proto forge to kill a standard tank. Sadly we are most deffenetly not getting the additional tanks needed to fix the balance issiue, the proto forge will annihilate our standard level tanks for many months to come untill additional, more powerful vehicals are released. Unless the tanks are getting a monsterious buff, we should temporarily remove the proto forge unitll tanks are strong enough to require proto forge monsters.

However, there is an aspect were the Forge Gun is absurd and too multi purposed. The splash on the forge is okay, it has a balanced strength and blast radius but this splash is abused for holding down objective hacking panels, especially PC. When there is a FG above an objective you simply can not capture the objective, as the splash on the assualt FG kills all hackers. This makes this AV weapon an anti everything weapon, if you are able to kill infaintry it should be a direct hit because it is an anti vehical weapon, it does not need splash to kill vehicals and the idea that it ever did is laughable. This weapon is currently to versatile for an AV weapon, an extreemly effective AV weapon at that. The splash should be removed to define its battlefeild role, it is almost the ultimate tactical weapon when placed above ground, like the flaylock was as a sidearm

So from your point of you the splash of an exploding ball of charged plasma should be removed? Yea buddy real logical right there

Of all the bum corps to talk .. u really.. cmon .. talk after u beat us ... and use a Kleenex to wipe your tears... your mad cuz your are one of those girls whos period is just too strong... and u cant control your hormones... I understand.. I have daughters... its all good ..

How about leave the blast radius but make the effect of the radius only effect shielding aka flux type effect, thus only a direct hit can kill infantry but it can still do damage to shielding.

Idea: The Forge Gun should do less damage to light targets (LAV, DS) and more damage to heavy targets (HAV).

Reasoning: When you fire a 50 cal at a tank it does a lot of damage due to the heavy amounts of armor on the tank. That big bullet has to punch through foot inch thick armor. As such, a lot of kinetic energy is released resulting in explosions and high damage. On the other end, if you fire a 50 cal at a jeep it doesn't do much because the armor is so thin that the bullet passes through effortlessly and keeps going. Unless you hit a certain spot (Engine block or fuel tank) the jeep will continue to run fine.

well get in here and make some points!! you are a vehical user as well, talk about how it is for dropships. Sadly i never flew i cant confidently speak for you guys :/ i would if i could

how is it for dropships? forge guns and rail tanks are the scary things. you can become scraped before you can make an adjustment to fly away. i liked what one guy said, slow down the forge travel time. if its slaw as a plasma cannon than i dont care if it does 5k damage it will take skill to use.