It was so dope! Oh my goodness, when the one guy did the thing! With the purple stuff!

May I ask what that cause may be une amie?

I'm not sure how to answer that, explain your unity please.

((Fact of the matter is RP is all about the conflict getting along with people in RP situations is boring, discussing things though is interesting unfortunately all the RPers here are Amarrian))

I really don't understand why more races don't role-play.
Like you said, it's nearly all Amarr, then Caldari...then Min and Gal are probably tied for non-existent.

(( I really didn't want to comment again OOC but you are right I wish there were more minnies to banter with, discuss Empire/Republic affairs, and generally co-op on creating some narratives but there aren't all I have to do right now is bash on the Gallente and in all honesty I hate them so bad...))

Yup! And other person was like eff that here's so blue stuff in your brain!

Probably what he's talking about is the relative stability and arguably harmony that typifies the Amarrian Empire-- everybody serving the common cause of building their god's dominion in one way or another. At least, I suspect that's how a templar sees it.

To the rest: if I understand correctly, and please forgive me if I do not, you seem to feel that the undercurrents of xenophobia currently exposing themselves in the Federation are being provoked, that they do not reflect the true spirit of the Federation and the Gallente.

Soldier, respectfully, the Federation has always had this dark streak in it. Similar events brought about the original war between Caldari and Gallente. Similar events provoked the State to invade Caldari Prime once more. Perhaps there is, in all peoples, a broad streak of humanity's old, primal tribalism, the old us-versus-them, protect-what's-mine. If it is shocking when it appears in the Gallente, I would respectfully suggest that this is not because it is alien to your culture, but because you are about the only ones who make any pretense of having let that aspect of your nature go.

We're all a bit clannish, in the end.

That said, it's certainly a predictable enough aspect of human nature to be manipulated, and perhaps that's precisely what is happening here: humans being prodded into acting like the apes we all are. If so, I wish you all possible fortune in locating and stopping the source; it took the State multiple years to work out that our own demagogue was no good for us.

He did get some important reforms in between bouts of embezzlement, er, creative redistribution of corporate funds, mind you.

Winds guide me, Joelyn always amazes me with the Blue Tiger. If I hadn't become a merc, I probably would have taken up Mind Clash or Splinterz.

Kirk, what's the name of your group anyway?

While your words may be treasonous, I admire your courage, soldier. Anyone who has the will to speak out against opression is truely one who has the power to change it.

I still find myself at a loss as to why I fight so valiantly. I long for peace. I would gladly enjoy a drink with a clone I just killed four times. But this, this revolutionary thinking, is what spawns dissent. Is your fight against the other empires? Or is it with your slowly corrupting government? Heed my words, comrade: do not shoulder more than you must, for your back will surely break.

I see many of you are igniting blazing arguements. I have no problem with debate, but you must remember to contain your anger. Meditate if it helps. But above all, keep the war on the battlefield.

ok.... when you talk about oppression, the gallenteans do not oppress, oppression is to keep people from being themselves, being open and being individuals... gallente liberalism does not condone any acts of oppression under the federation territories.. I do agree that the federation has flaws and will not argue that it doesn't (ALL of the empires have their flaws and are wrong about how they enact their ideals), but when your talking about oppression, your wrong about the federation as a whole... if anything the amarrian empire is the biggest state of oppression since it doesn't allow anything other than its own religious views, thus blocking individuality and oppressing free will.

ok.... when you talk about oppression, the gallenteans do not oppress, oppression is to keep people from being themselves, being open and being individuals... gallente liberalism does not condone any acts of oppression under the federation territories.. I do agree that the federation has flaws and will not argue that it doesn't (ALL of the empires have their flaws and are wrong about how they enact their ideals), but when your talking about oppression, your wrong about the federation as a whole... if anything the amarrian empire is the biggest state of oppression since it doesn't allow anything other than its own religious views, thus blocking individuality and oppressing free will.

ok.... when you talk about oppression, the gallenteans do not oppress, oppression is to keep people from being themselves, being open and being individuals... gallente liberalism does not condone any acts of oppression under the federation territories.. I do agree that the federation has flaws and will not argue that it doesn't (ALL of the empires have their flaws and are wrong about how they enact their ideals), but when your talking about oppression, your wrong about the federation as a whole... if anything the amarrian empire is the biggest state of oppression since it doesn't allow anything other than its own religious views, thus blocking individuality and oppressing free will.

Once again has my communication channel been hijack by talks of Amarrian aspects.

I am doing no such thing but again defending my culture.

If your Gallenteans would keep their insensitive comments, ignorant or otherwise, in check we would not have these problems would we?

I know you're just reacting I was speaking to the Gallentean.

This is not the thread for these matters.

We are branded as terrorist by the State....

One question:


By this, do you mean the Federal nation state or the Caldari State? Also, do you think they've ... well, respectfully, really noticed sufficiently to apply that kind of label? Usually, they wait until you're actually done something dramatic before they pull out the "terrorist" label.

Respectfully, soldier, so far you sound more like an arguably-radical dissident than like anything any sane person would be trying to label a "terrorist."

I am doing no such thing but again defending my culture.

If your Gallenteans would keep their insensitive comments, ignorant or otherwise, in check we would not have these problems would we?

actually, it is you amarrians that bring it up 1st, I wouldn't have lashed out if your friend hadn't claimed the federation oppresses its citizens.

But back to your point, tell me how a society built around the principles of bettering one's self over one's neighbors can achieve a state of peaceful unity. Won't you always be looking for the next way to exploit others, as is currently the case within the Federation? Such a society can clearly exist and thrive as your Federation has proven, but it will never obtain true unity.

I read this I am must comment on it.

You misinterpret us. We do not want to better ourselves over our neighbor. We do not wish to exploit others. Our ideals are founded in liberty and personal rights, but you cannot, ever, infringe on another's.

At least, this is the way it is supposed to be. Most Gallenteans believe this, but, there are some who do not. It seems these people are in power. If they are corrupt, then I support whomever blows the whistle.

As much as I love the spirit, culture of the Gallente people, as well as military fighting style, I detest the acts and the hypocrisy of the Federation.

All of the powers are sick and corrupted, any person that tries to tell you anything else is wrong

Don't try to be apologetic for the Federation, don't try to justify the acts of the Federation, we don't need that. What we need is change.

Instead, lets take back our Government, allow the Gallente Spirit to be evident within our governance, change it.

The Federation is heading deeper into the darkness, I was once ordered to kill an innocent mother of three, "For the greater good" they said. No good can come from killing a beloved mother of 3 for telling the truth and opening people's eyes.

I have seen and done many things that I regret, I have no personal god to believe in so the only one to atone for my sins are me.

Nay, I'm not just fighting to atone just for my sins but the Sins of Our Fathers as well. It is our right to ensure the generations of tomorrow a more peaceful and stable future.

This "Federation" serves itself.
This "Federation" has become bloated with arrogance.
This "Federation" has become power hungry.
This "Federation" doesn't belong to the Gallente people

Join me brother and sisters.

Help me,

Take it back.

- Former Black Eagle Agent, Phaneron Manumit Kirk (Sgt Kirk)

actually, it is you amarrians that bring it up 1st, I wouldn't have lashed out if your friend hadn't claimed the federation oppresses its citizens.

I agree with you that all of the empires have problems and terrible secrets, but what you are proposing is rather difficult and expensive. I may of said of course i would you help you in your fight, but you have no power and from what i have seen very little support. Also we are mercs we are barely recognized by capsuleers. Since you are a merc just like not being recognized by capsuleers I doubt that many people with power would help you in your cause . This is quite different though for your enemies. They have the money and support against you. You may be immortal but the empire isn't which means the supporters of the gallente government as it is right now will fight against you. Loyalists are the white blood cells of the body know of a official state people like you are a virus that they will try to kill. Yet just like any body or state it can fail. So you may accomplish your mission, but as it stands your job will always be hard and very unappealing to who ever you try to recruit in your cause.