This is why your freedom is a lie. You are all already slaves, you just don't know who's holding your chains.

We are all slaves

The Amarrians to their False Ideals
The Caldari to their shortsightedness.
The Minmatar...well some of them are actually slaves, can't think of anything for Minmatar.

We are all slaves

The Amarrians to their False Ideals
The Caldari to their shortsightedness.
The Minmatar...well some of them are actually slaves, can't think of anything for Minmatar.

To anger.

But that's not the point, who are you to say our ideals are false.

They are slaves to their traditions. Even among the Federation I'm certain there are those immigrants who practice this voluval ceremony I have heard talk of.

We are all slaves

The Amarrians to their False Ideals
The Caldari to their shortsightedness.
The Minmatar (To anger, thanks True)

What about you Gallateans?

Do you have no faults?
Do you imply that your nation is perfect?
Do you imply that you are flawless?

It seems like the majority of you believe it to be so.

It seems like you see the Federation's faults but, how will you convince your fellow citizens of them?

This is the result of democracy.

(coughs) Soooo...How about that crazy Mind Clash match last night?

We are all slaves

The Amarrians to their False Ideals
The Caldari to their shortsightedness.
The Minmatar (To anger, thanks True)

Argh, I missed it, I was too faded last night to even bother with it.

Dude did I not just ******* say what our fault was in the first post.


If you can't read get the **** out of here, this post is for literate people only.

Becausing living in peaceful unity is a false ideal?

And of course the Federation government exists to serve itself. The entire Gallente culture is built around self liberty and making decisions for yourself, living and dying on the success of your self. It's very selfish by design, so why would you expect your government to serve anyone other than themselves?

((I was talking about that list specifically; it was redundant. I was trying to use it to emphasize what I was saying... I must have failed horribly. Question is: How will you convince other Gallanteans about this? sorry about that.))

Your comment honestly made me facepalm as a Gallentean. I'd honestly explain myself but if you can't grasp the idea that people can be united by individuality then I wouldn't be able to get it through your Amarrian way of thinking.

((OOC, here's my proof."It should be noted that this unified purpose does not always imply a loss of individuality, as it does in the Caldari State, whose people speak with a single voice, subtler, darker degree in the Gallente Federation, where the only sound that may be heard is the collective noise of individuality. As can clearly be seen in the voluminous lists of deceased Amarr citizens, lineage plays an important role in the Empire. While as a nation they have been amazingly unified in conquest through history - to the point where they are perfectly willing to overlook the individuality of their conquered people - they place a remarkable importance on individuals in their own ranks, sometimes to the point of sainthood.))

Such a society can clearly exist and thrive as your Federation has proven, but it will never obtain true unity.

Alright, In all due respect, I don't care.
This thread's purpose was to get other Gallente or aligned players in the chat and role-play around and talk about how to change the Federation.

Instead I'm getting nothing but a bunch of Amarrians and I'm kind of disappointed that no other people commented and the post got hijaked.

Um ... respectfully, soldier, it's one of the minor awkwardnesses of the IGS: anything you post that is of political use to anybody will be immediately pounced on by that faction.

If you will permit a remark by a person loyal to the State, I'm curious how you perceive the present state of affairs as unrepresentative of its population. Are you thinking of the Black Eagles, or is there some other corruptive force you see at play?

Um ... respectfully, soldier, it's one of the minor awkwardnesses of the IGS: anything you post that is of political use to anybody will be immediately pounced on by that faction.

If you will permit a remark by a person loyal to the State, I'm curious how you perceive the present state of affairs as unrepresentative of its population. Are you thinking of the Black Eagles, or is there some other corruptive force you see at play?

Instead I'm getting nothing but a bunch of Amarrians and I'm kind of disappointed that no other people commented and the post got hijaked.

Ah yes, Complete unity will never be achieved that is a fact however that's not what we are striving for.

((You invited it by attacking the Empire in your previous comment, but I have been doing my best to also comment on the Federation with each reply.))

So without this unity, how are you expecting your government to act with the best interest of their people in mind?

Most Gallenteans here don't seem to think like you do Kirk, most of them still show unquestioning loyalty to the Federation(or have turned into megalomaniacs). I do agree, the government has a problem and it needs to be fixed, but I will not be participating in your efforts. My hands are tied already with the efforts of aiding my homeplanet and help recruit more people to my cause. I wish you good luck on your endeavor though, and I hopw you succeed in it.

Alright, In all due respect, I don't care.
This thread's purpose was to get other Gallente or aligned players in the chat and role-play around and talk about how to change the Federation.

Instead I'm getting nothing but a bunch of Amarrians and I'm kind of disappointed that no other people commented and the post got hijaked.

(coughs) Soooo...How about that crazy Mind Clash match last night?

((Fact of the matter is RP is all about the conflict getting along with people in RP situations is boring, discussing things though is interesting unfortunately all the RPers here are Amarrian))