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Noc Tempre wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get.

That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable.

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more.

Like bacon.

EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly.

I have a minimalist world-view. I don't think it is acceptable to lack a justification for existence. Even at the price-point of free, I am struggling to understand why DUST 514 should continue to exist, use up energy and time and talent. And CCP said they had 5 years of content. We have spent 2 years redoing the first 6 months of the original content. In fact, the amount of unique features has actually deteriorated since the earliest states of beta. I question the value of intentions against such haphazard execution.

This is something you are welcome to do - but my question still remains. If you don't enjoy it, why are you playing it? Why spend your time on something that you are unhappy with? What good comes from that? Why not go and play something else you enjoy more? I'd like an honest answer - if the relationship is over, just get the break up over with, and find a new girl.

I did. I play PS2 on TR Connery for the time being; unsure if I will hop onto PS4 in the end but looks likely. The dev-player relationship is night and day, at least right now. Thing was a year ago it was opposite. PS2 was bland and spartan, DUST was fresh and unique and good dev communication. Things have changed once, mayhaps they change again.

Ultimately CCP as a studio has recieved more money than ANY other company in history, and I don't want to be accessory to waste. So I still chime in with insights and analysis hoping it helps. So I'm hopelessly naive I suppose What?

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Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2351	Posted - 2013.08.14 21:55:00 - [1] - Quote This is just a reflection on what I came to DUST looking for and how it has so far failed to accomplish. It had the potential of AAA in concept, but the execution was D-listers running the show and the proof is the state of the game now. I can think of three features that were uniquely DUST 514 that made it worthy of attention and honestly, connection to eve wasn't one of them. That was always a gimmick. 1) Multiple genres of game modes, all with a persistent character You had promises of the same "merc" hoping between npc missions, horde defense, arena battles, territory management, and promises for more over time, all with a character that persisted. A simple parallel is if CoD single player, multiplayer, spec ops, and zombies all shared the same character with rewards from winning granting progression in all, not just one 2) Infinite map variation The promise of never having the same fight twice. We were told to expect PGE maps, player selected facilities tied to the importance of the map, player designed defenses, even radically different environments. None of that happened, laughably DUST has less unique map area, let alone detail, than a typical CoD fare - don't even bother comparing to BF3 or PS2 (area being literal by the way). 3) Deep, tactical FPS mechanics Capacitor, overheating, ammo types, 5 types of ewar, remote repairing, resists vs health vs regen ... all were pitched as uniquely DUST takes on the FPS genre. And best of all, we were expecting to be able to mix them up, classless customization. In the end, CoD: BO2 has more meaningful customization, and usable equipment before you even touch on the kill-streaks. After all, the OBs were always about appeasement to EVE, to mollify all the money funneled from the sub fees. As it stands now, DUST is just DPS and HP, weapons are silly easy to control (but too much RBS), and none of the deeper combat, tactical, nor stategic options are there. PS2 has cloaks, jetpacks, turrets, overshields, hots, explosives, sensors ... the tactical choices in DUST 514 are spartan compared to CoD, let alone the real genre competition for MMOFPS. And what we have to look forward to is ... fixed aiming and balanced weapons, assuming everything goes perfectly for once. So without even the failure of EVE interaction, DUST doesn't even ASPIRE to live up to what made it "the game to watch" since 2009 and that makes me sad. A BF2142 third-rate knock-off with less depth and polish and a wholly unsustainable monetization scheme. Can DUST aspire to greatness again? All I see is plans to continue down the "me-too" path. I challenge you to all to show evidence (not speculation or wishful thinking) that it may yet become a unique game worth playing.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1394	Posted - 2013.08.14 21:56:00 - [2] - Quote If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. Though when I do reach the point where I don't enjoy as is, I will find something else. I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2355	Posted - 2013.08.14 21:59:00 - [3] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. I have a minimalist world-view. I don't think it is acceptable to lack a justification for existence. Even at the price-point of free, I am struggling to understand why DUST 514 should continue to exist, use up energy and time and talent. And CCP said they had 5 years of content. We have spent 2 years redoing the first 6 months of the original content. In fact, the amount of unique features has actually deteriorated since the earliest states of beta. I question the value of intentions against such haphazard execution.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1395	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:00:00 - [4] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. You asked an opinion - I gave mine. Please read my edit where I added more explanation - my mentality is how I approach life, not just this game.
ThePlanetside2Bomber Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:02:00 - [5] - Quote This game is the worst failure in gaming history. A true failure on all levels. Its due to guys like Iron Wolf Saber that give redicylos info to ccp and they listen. He is a terrible player, funny the game is just as bad as he is.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1395	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:03:00 - [6] - Quote ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote: This game is the worst failure in gaming history. A true failure on all levels. Its due to guys like Iron Wolf Saber that give redicylos info to ccp and they listen. He is a terrible player, funny the game is just as bad as he is. Doesn't change the fact that I enjoy it, even if I don't agree with Iron Wolf on many things. Why do you feel the need to try to make someone feel bad for enjoying something you don't?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2355	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:05:00 - [7] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. You asked an opinion - I gave mine. Please read my edit where I added more explanation - my mentality is how I approach life, not just this game. I edited my reply to account for yours.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1395	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:07:00 - [8] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. I have a minimalist world-view. I don't think it is acceptable to lack a justification for existence. Even at the price-point of free, I am struggling to understand why DUST 514 should continue to exist, use up energy and time and talent. And CCP said they had 5 years of content. We have spent 2 years redoing the first 6 months of the original content. In fact, the amount of unique features has actually deteriorated since the earliest states of beta. I question the value of intentions against such haphazard execution. This is something you are welcome to do - but my question still remains. If you don't enjoy it, why are you playing it? Why spend your time on something that you are unhappy with? What good comes from that? Why not go and play something else you enjoy more? I'd like an honest answer - if the relationship is over, just get the break up over with, and find a new girl.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 683	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:08:00 - [9] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. You asked an opinion - I gave mine. Please read my edit where I added more explanation - my mentality is how I approach life, not just this game. Provide feedback in an attempt to elicit a positive response-through-action on the part of the developer in order to actualize positive change and achieve the goal of 'better game'... ... or he could pray.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 505	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:10:00 - [10] - Quote I can only shudder at the thought of all that beautiful EVE subscription money not being spent that game but spent propping up DUST. You have to wonder what will give out first. CCP obstinate world view or their investor's patience. Shameful waste really.

Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1396	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:12:00 - [11] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. You asked an opinion - I gave mine. Please read my edit where I added more explanation - my mentality is how I approach life, not just this game. Provide feedback in an attempt to elicit a positive response-through-action on the part of the developer in order to actualize positive change and achieve the goal of 'better game'... ... or he could pray. Oh I provide feedback, but do so on a way that is constructive and offers a way to improve the game, and not in a way that is comes across arrogantly so that my comments are actually listened to, and not ignored. It's about approach, if that is your goal. Otherwise, he is complaining about a game he doesn't enjoy, in which case he should go somewhere else because he is not improving the game - only pointing out things he is displeased with. Offer solutions, or stay silent, or find something else that doesn't stress you out. Noc talks on the forums all the time, and he is always negative. Seriously, he seems stressed out by this game. This. GAME. Who stresses over a game? What benefit is there in that? Find something better to do with your time if you aren't happy. Just saying. I'm 35 and my dad died of a heart attack at 45. If I stressed over something as trivial as a game, I'd be putting my health at further risk. What's the point?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2359	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:13:00 - [12] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. I have a minimalist world-view. I don't think it is acceptable to lack a justification for existence. Even at the price-point of free, I am struggling to understand why DUST 514 should continue to exist, use up energy and time and talent. And CCP said they had 5 years of content. We have spent 2 years redoing the first 6 months of the original content. In fact, the amount of unique features has actually deteriorated since the earliest states of beta. I question the value of intentions against such haphazard execution. This is something you are welcome to do - but my question still remains. If you don't enjoy it, why are you playing it? Why spend your time on something that you are unhappy with? What good comes from that? Why not go and play something else you enjoy more? I'd like an honest answer - if the relationship is over, just get the break up over with, and find a new girl. I did. I play PS2 on TR Connery for the time being; unsure if I will hop onto PS4 in the end but looks likely. The dev-player relationship is night and day, at least right now. Thing was a year ago it was opposite. PS2 was bland and spartan, DUST was fresh and unique and good dev communication. Things have changed once, mayhaps they change again. Ultimately CCP as a studio has recieved more money than ANY other company in history from me, and I don't want to be accessory to waste. So I still chime in with insights and analysis hoping it helps. So I'm hopelessly naive I suppose
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1396	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:14:00 - [13] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. That is your reply? Blind faith or GTFO? It is deliberately a trap statement; there is no rational dialogue that can follow by accepting your premise as reasonable. Forlorn Destrier wrote: I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. I have a minimalist world-view. I don't think it is acceptable to lack a justification for existence. Even at the price-point of free, I am struggling to understand why DUST 514 should continue to exist, use up energy and time and talent. And CCP said they had 5 years of content. We have spent 2 years redoing the first 6 months of the original content. In fact, the amount of unique features has actually deteriorated since the earliest states of beta. I question the value of intentions against such haphazard execution. This is something you are welcome to do - but my question still remains. If you don't enjoy it, why are you playing it? Why spend your time on something that you are unhappy with? What good comes from that? Why not go and play something else you enjoy more? I'd like an honest answer - if the relationship is over, just get the break up over with, and find a new girl. I did. I play PS2 on TR Connery for the time being; unsure if I will hop onto PS4 in the end but looks likely. The dev-player relationship is night and day, at least right now. Thing was a year ago it was opposite. PS2 was bland and spartan, DUST was fresh and unique and good dev communication. Things have changed once, mayhaps they change again. Ultimately CCP as a studio has recieved more money than ANY other company in history, and I don't want to be accessory to waste. So I still chime in with insights and analysis hoping it helps. So I'm hopelessly naive I suppose This says more than anything you've said before Noc. Thank you for showing you are more than your past posts have portrayed you as.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5725	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:20:00 - [14] - Quote Well said, very true. Persistant and near endless planets were what initially drew me into DUST. It aggravates me just thinking about it.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1186	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:29:00 - [15] - Quote The thread title poses one of the most convoluted questions ever asked in the history of the game. Some say the keynote from Fanfest says it all. I say CCP don't even know 100% yet. I feel like they're wandering, always fixing bugs like they're playing Whack-a-Mole, letting the problems lead their progress instead of taking a proactive approach. I've resigned myself to wait for 2014's Fanfest and comparing DUST's keynotes between the two years and see what has changed, and hopefully in that we can determine the direction the game is taking. Or CCP could post an enlightening dev blog on where they believe DUST is headed, and what they want DUST to be. I'll try keep my hopes up for that.
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 556	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:33:00 - [16] - Quote I came to dust specifically for the design theory: PC and PS3 communicating real time on a single server. That dream still exists for me, but CCP has dropped the ball. EVE capsuleers don't give 2 fucks about DUST mercs beyond a curious glance. Subdreddit got lots of press from CCP for doing their job for them: showing off how dust and eve can swing faction warfare. Well, we got dumped by our eve side FW corp, and there was zero retribution to be had. We were just several percentage points of plex. Something like 12 hours of time savings to them and nothing more. The shock and awe of taking Aurzad was fun, and I am glad I was part of it, but if this is the extent of interplatform communication and interaction... It leaves me wanting. FW isn't functionally different from a pub except that you can maybe swing a powerful orbital with enough pre planning. Dust side we have no loyalty or rewards for our actions. It's all coming SoonTM. But the only changes we see lately are hot fixes for things that were released broken. Delays on new content, and delays on expanded gameplay. I'm sticking with dust because I want to see and be part of strong cross platform, cross genre gameplay. The original dream. But I'm also going to get a PS4 and Elder Scrolls Online. How much you want to bet that game puts Skyrim to shame, which itself is 3 years old and more playable in vanilla ps3 release than Dust?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3579	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:34:00 - [17] - Quote Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2360	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:45:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Early EVE online never lacked a unique identity. It did something different enough that it didn't need to be perfect. What does DUST do? What could it do in the immediate future? What does it want to do long term? And it can't be everything even with perfection and unlimited resources. There are some people who see the incomplete nature of DUST as an excuse to fill in the blank slate with all of their hopes and dreams and those people make me mad because they detract from the discussion of what it means to be DUST.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 197	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:46:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2361	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:51:00 - [20] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here.

TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2689	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:52:00 - [21] - Quote Can't say I disagree with you on one point, good sir. +1.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 200	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:54:00 - [22] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2362	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:57:00 - [23] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it? Talk about a non-sequitur.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 200	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:00:00 - [24] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it? Talk about a non-sequitur. Lol I can hear you just not listening.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 722	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:01:00 - [25] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. Though when I do reach the point where I don't enjoy as is, I will find something else. I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. 1. At this point telling anybody to leave the game is foolish... oh you're trying to be cool 2. CCP says a lot of things Baron of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING
Thor McStrut Reckoners 107	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:08:00 - [26] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it? Actually, they did. They (CCP) sold us with visions of grandeur, clips of game footage that they had invested years into already, and the dreams of the devs on what role it would play in the realm of New Eden. Come to find out, they weren't even capable of pulling it off, had to scrap nearly everything that they had already done, and code and play in an engine that it seems nobody employed new anything about. I have to agree, as soon as Carbon was decided to be scrapped, they should have immediately gone and pulled in a 3rd party to help with the UE work. The in-house people could've easily overseen the 3rd party and provided the meta input that New Eden demands.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 200	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:11:00 - [27] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: If you have no faith Noc, you are welcome to leave. I enjoy the game and hope it improves, but won't be heartbroken if this is all we get. Though when I do reach the point where I don't enjoy as is, I will find something else. I guess my point is that I in general I don't let little things bother me - and a video game is awfully small overall when compared with other things that matter more. Like bacon. EDIT: Also, CCP always said this would be a long development path, just like Eve has been. If you expect something more quickly, then play a game deveoped by a company that has a track record for putting things out more quickly. 1. At this point telling anybody to leave the game is foolish... oh you're trying to be cool 2. CCP says a lot of things Baron of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING Well you aren't trying to be cool that is pretty obvious, Mr. Baron of GD and Winner of This & That and all things awesome!
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 556	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:33:00 - [28] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it? What exactly is your point, beyond the pithy one line answers? That only people who like dust as it is should play it? Or talk about it on the forums? And we should only expect dust to be as good as battlefield 1942, a game released in 2002? Should CCP even patch it at all since its perfect?
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 200	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:41:00 - [29] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Robocop Junior wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Give it a few years. Eve Online was in the same pickle as Dust is right now. It will just take time to blossom. Also everyone compares Dust to BF3, BO2, PS2, etc.....all sequels and franchises that already have had plenty of time to make mistakes early on and correct them years down the road. No one forced CCP to make an FPS. They could have hired any of those studios to produce the IP instead they created a new studio with sophomoric Chinese developers. Some accountability is necessary here. No one forced you to play it? What exactly is your point, beyond the pithy one line answers? That only people who like dust as it is should play it? Or talk about it on the forums? And we should only expect dust to be as good as battlefield 1942, a game released in 2002? Should CCP even patch it at all since its perfect? What is your point? Besides complaining about the same stuff over and over and over, just because you guys use more words your opinions aren't anymore valid than mine.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 200	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:47:00 - [30] - Quote Do you guys walk into McDonald's get your Big Mac and say "Hey this isn't how it looks on TV" or "Hey that's not how Burger King does I want it my way!" I bet you just sit there and stuff your fat face like everyone else.



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