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Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:50:00 -
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New Game Network Dust514 Review
He has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant.
He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2053
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:02:00 -
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He's not wrong about anything except for better AUR counterparts. Kind of disheartening. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:05:00 -
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Just responding to your post not the actual review (why read it? i already play the game ) ... I've never found the AUR push to be intrusive. It's free to play not play to win so it's like... how they make money. Some people have an issue with companies making money...
... I however, am not a communist.
If you do not like Dust, you are a communist. Are you a communist
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
120
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:09:00 -
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While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game.
Look up the game Big Rigs. It IS god awful, but that was its finished state and got the ratings it deserved. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5708
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:10:00 -
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This is what happens when you end your Beta too early to try and get your contract with Sony to go by faster
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
252
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:11:00 -
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I've never been in limbo waiting for instant battle, EVER.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
714
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:12:00 -
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far from new news, dust has been getting torn a new a-hole since it was released as far as reviews go.
jsut add this one to the pile |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
130
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:14:00 -
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I think that the article raises a ton of interesting points that I think we tend to overlook in our tunnel vision that is the SP grind (graphics/eve connectivity/maps). But the author exaggerated the Aurum pushing a bit and also went out of his way to degrade a part of the game that I actually think is unique and fun to play around with(the fitting customizations). |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
269
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:14:00 -
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I am not denying anything that was said and I just want to make a random comment. I see so many people complain about framerate issues and lag but never once in my entire experience with DUST have I encountered a single issue with any of it. I understand some is related to programming etc but maybe people should upgrade from their satellite connections before blaming it all on the hardware |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
292
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:15:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game.
that's a 45, not a 4.5.
more than that, it's some review of a guy who hasn't even played dust. sad, really. reviews have been bs since the '90s
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SteelDark Knight
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:19:00 -
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I disagree with the Aurum part. However, if so many reviewers feel the game is P2W than something is wrong with the message CCP gives in game. I also disagree with the Drop Suit build complexity issue. Again, with that said I think it is something that CCP needs to work on better educating new players about as it seems to be a common complaint.
Other than those two things - I agree with most of the issues brought forward. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
839
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:20:00 -
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Reviewer just downloaded it and played it for an hour at best
Lazy bastard |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
387
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:20:00 -
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I don't play a game because it have a good "score" or a great review. I play because I like it.
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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
1044
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:26:00 -
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Yeah some of the points the author brings up are spot on, but then again it also sounds like he's never played EVE before. He said that it is "fussy" (basically it annoys him) that he must purchase the skill books, then train the skill, and then must fit his dropsuit with the modules, weapons, and equipment that those skill points unlocked for him.
Either he has an insanely short attention span, or like I said, he's never played EVE in his life. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3146
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:29:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game. Look up the game Big Rigs. It IS god awful, but that was its finished state and got the ratings it deserved. ...wow. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1229
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:33:00 -
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People who don't put enough time in the product to realize that
1. All aurum items have ISK equivalents and 2. The best weapons in the game can't be bought with aurum (officer weapons)
only prove to me that they shouldn't be reviewing anything. Opinions void. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:45:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game. Look up the game Big Rigs. It IS god awful, but that was its finished state and got the ratings it deserved. ...wow.
Lol, yeah, it's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
You can go -GêP mph backwards. The highest I've ever gone was Gëê -3 million MPH back in High School and that was during a 30 min computer class. You just hold the reverse button and the truck ends up flopping around, clipping through everything while gaining insane amounts of speed every second.
But at least it worked normal driving forward...sort of. |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
273
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:49:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game.
In the world of game reviews, "released" means "finished.' Dust might be constantly worked on by CCP, but as far as anyone is concerned, it's a finished game. |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
382
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:52:00 -
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The major problem with this game is that it is not POSSIBLE to get a high review score by design, the game is designed to invest the player in the long term. This is a game where you would need 2 decent skirmish maps in order to skill into a early game skill and it exponentially increases from there. A reviewer simply does not have the time to invest into such a long term game. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3575
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:58:00 -
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Most of that review is spot one... except for the author's silly statement that implies that the game is pay to win. Dust is not pay to win in any way and if there are any potential pay to win items those get reported to CCP to fix. After all, CCP made it clear over and over that this game will NOT be pay to win like you see in World of Tanks. |
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:00:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game. In the world of game reviews, "released" means "finished.' Dust might be constantly worked on by CCP, but as far as anyone is concerned, it's a finished game.
I guess I'm Nobody then. I'm Patrick Swayze from Ghost. Or better yet, turn the tables around and call me Odysseus! Then I'll stab you in your Cyclops eye.
And by that I mean I'mma stab you in the junk! |
ThePlanetside2Bomber
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:00:00 -
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Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:07:00 -
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The game (for the most part) has failed and I think CCP knows that, but will continue to updated and is secretly developing the better PS4 version. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:08:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it.
But if someone decides to buy Aur equipment it doesn't mean they have more skill than the person that played 6 weeks... The scale doesn't mean anything if they suck with the guns they paid for.
For example. Someone buys Aur sniper rifles and suits to sit back and OHK people that are taking the long way to whatever equipment they want. Unless they buy an Aur heavy suit they can still be OHK by a MLT sniper rifle if they're bad at sniping.
Therefore not P2W. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:10:00 -
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Frankly, this gentleman was pretty forgiving. And even one of his comments below his article alludes ot the fact he is giving it the benefit of the doubt due to cCPs track record with eve even as he is rating it on its own merits. And he then goes to say he will review it again in the future as he has no doubt CCP will keep at it until it's better.
but it's current state? it's a 3.0.
A poster above me mentioned how the article had good points about tunnel vision on the failings of dust. Well, not everyone has tunnel vision. just look at all the AFK. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7271
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:12:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it.
Sounds like planetside 2. |
Kalante Schiffer
damn i suck
384
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:15:00 -
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do these f*cking reviewers ever know about the officer weapons? |
Kalante Schiffer
damn i suck
384
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:18:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. what are you talking about? idiot? 6 weeks to get a gun, are you talking about the prototype suit then yeah. but not even. some people can get a prototype suit within two and a half weeks.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1234
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:22:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. 6 weeks to unlock a gun? Let's see, all guns are a 2x skill meaning roughly 620,000 Skill Points to reach Level 5. One week without any boosters would be 168,000 passive skill points + 190,400 active skill points = 358,400 skill points. So Actually it would take LESS THAN 2 weeks to get whatever gun you want. Now if you want to get the Aurum equivalent of the top gun you need what, level 4 in operations? So that's 310,000 SP, or a bit less than a week of playing?
So when you say "Play for 6 weeks or pay and have it instantly" you really mean "Play for 2 weeks or pay to have it in 1 week," right? |
ThePlanetside2Bomber
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 21:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. Sounds like planetside 2.
You are ******* sick. I would love to see your fat az on the street corner punk azz bhitch. Id fhuk you up real fast fanboi #1!
8 hrs of planetside 2 gameplay for an unlocked gun, not 6 weeks, man you are a pathetic punk IWS.
Seriously WTF you tryin to talk **** about planetside while standing up for this piece of ****? WTF you fuchin punk.
Anyone seeing IWS talking schit about ps2. What is his deal? Why hate on a game with almost 20 game of the year awards?
Go ahead ban me again, I just want people to see what a bhitch IWS is for constantly trying to talk down planetside when it is 1000x better than dust.
Stupid fhukin bhitch |
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JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
578
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Posted - 2013.08.14 21:57:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. Sounds like planetside 2. You are ******* sick. I would love to see your fat az on the street corner punk azz bhitch. Id fhuk you up real fast fanboi #1! 8 hrs of planetside 2 gameplay for an unlocked gun, not 6 weeks, man you are a pathetic punk IWS. Seriously WTF you tryin to talk **** about planetside while standing up for this piece of ****? WTF you fuchin punk. Anyone seeing IWS talking schit about ps2. What is his deal? Why hate on a game with almost 20 game of the year awards? Go ahead ban me again, I just want people to see what a bhitch IWS is for constantly trying to talk down planetside when it is 1000x better than dust. Stupid fhukin bhitch
quoted for lulz.
inb4banhammer. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
143
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:06:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game. Still another game reviewer who judges the game without even hitting 1 million SP, if you don't invest time in Dust you won't like it. Even the thing about not knowing about the lore was wrong, when I first came in I knew nothing but after about a month of sticking with it I started learning more and more. The only thing they remotely said that was true is about the maps |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
434
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:13:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:While all of that may be true, you have to remember he's rating an unfinished game. Look up the game Big Rigs. It IS god awful, but that was its finished state and got the ratings it deserved.
DUST is a fully released game. CCP just releases CYA patches every month in an effort to keep whats left of their playerbase happy enough to still shell out money for boosters. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:26:00 -
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"Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear."
I'm glad he came back to this point. It was my first thought when he said.
"ItGÇÖs a bit like a farm equipment company deciding to get into sports car manufacturing."
So... Maybe he gave a meta good review? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
332
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:30:00 -
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Eve had pretty horrible ratings too at the start. |
Preacher Death 2
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:33:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it. At most it takes 2 weeks to get a proto weapon and half as long if your going to use its aurum equivalent. Sounds like your having a simple lack of skill. Perhaps you should go play Planetside. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3579
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:33:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Eve had pretty horrible ratings too at the start.
I recall one of CCP's early publishers back in 2003 asked CCP if this [Eve Online] was it after looking at the gameplay and graphics. |
DJINN Loki
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
13
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:33:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Just responding to your post not the actual review (why read it? i already play the game ) ... I've never found the AUR push to be intrusive. It's free to play not play to win so it's like... how they make money. Some people have an issue with companies making money... ... I however, am not a communist. If you do not like Dust, you are a communist. Are you a communist
haha, made my day. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
332
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Eve had pretty horrible ratings too at the start. I recall one of CCP's early publishers back in 2003 asked CCP if this [Eve Online] was it after looking at the gameplay and graphics.
They did a great job at evolving the game, that's for sure. I hope they pull off the same thing for Dust. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
398
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:38:00 -
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I think the review was pretty spot on. |
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Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 23:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Eve had pretty horrible ratings too at the start. I recall one of CCP's early publishers back in 2003 asked CCP if this [Eve Online] was it after looking at the gameplay and graphics.
How many years are you going to sit here and play this dull loby shooter?
Its not a spreadsheet in space, its a lobby shooter, quit comparing eve and dust's launch success. Do you really think dust at this pace can keep up with any other persistant shooters? Just look at the content Planetside 2 has released in 8 months, sht tons of content, fixes and re-mapping. Dust has crawled to a near halt, because the $$$ is not coming in at the moment, so the employees are few and too far between.
My god what a fanboi, game gets 4.5 and he says I recall when eve launched..... lool siccos |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.08.15 00:23:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Eve had pretty horrible ratings too at the start. I recall one of CCP's early publishers back in 2003 asked CCP if this [Eve Online] was it after looking at the gameplay and graphics. How many years are you going to sit here and play this dull loby shooter? Its not a spreadsheet in space, its a lobby shooter, quit comparing eve and dust's launch success. Do you really think dust at this pace can keep up with any other persistant shooters? Just look at the content Planetside 2 has released in 8 months, sht tons of content, fixes and re-mapping. Dust has crawled to a near halt, because the $$$ is not coming in at the moment, so the employees are few and too far between. My god what a fanboi, game gets 4.5 and he says I recall when eve launched..... lool siccos
you? not very long. you're a soft-core gamer.
this is a hardcore gamer type of a title. and it wasn't a 4.5 it was a 45. if reading comprehension is a problem, you're going to hate dust. |
The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8
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Posted - 2013.08.15 01:21:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it.
Someone already posted how your wrong, which you are. 6 weeks for a proto gun, good math. All you do is bad mouth this game, if you don't like it go play something else. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time then to fill up the forums with your bs? Constructive criticism is what the forums are SUPPOSED to be about. If i spec into a lvl three weapon and i use aur to get the proto version im still lacking two tiers of the perk. is that really pay to win? am i gaining that much of an advantage? Not to mention that there are players that are specced into thing but will use aur to save aome isk to save for the future....People ***** too much because they don't get exactly what they want, just like real life. Go take your troll account and wait for ps2. |
ThePlanetside2Bomber
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.08.15 05:51:00 -
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So this turned into dustCreditCard514 is pay to win?
The reviewer gave dust a 4.5 that is pathetic, and dead on.
Keep latching on to your free playstation 2 game, while the servers are still on. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
209
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:12:00 -
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Damn my d1ck gotta better review than that:( |
Nalhe Saldana
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
122
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Posted - 2013.08.15 07:09:00 -
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"ItGÇÖs a real pity. For as cumbersome and unwieldy as Dust 514 is, CCPGÇÖs methodical and large-scale approach to the FPS is certainly a change of pace from the usual suspects. IGÇÖd just like to see it better realized. Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear."
This is why I stick around, this game will be worth picking up in time, just hope its not too far away. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:07:00 -
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A very accurate review for the most part.
Surprising that fresh eyes can immediately work out what most of us have taken a year to get to.
The only part I really disagreed with (as noted ad infinitum by other posters here) is the 'pay to win'. Definitely not, I suspect he didn't notice that all AUR items have an Isk equal etc. Officer weapons are far superior.
I also agree with his comments on farm equipment to racing cars. As it is now DUST is really not particularly outstanding, if this was it, I would never touch it again, its all potential that keeps me here. Sadly as someone who played EVE from 2005 onwards, it was far superior in its early years to this in comparison, maybe not graphics but the gameplay was incredible, and unique.
To the PS2 bunch, i've been playing it for a few months on and off, and have to say it shoves P2W in your face just as much if not more. Want to grind 100 cert points a night for the next 10 nights to unlock that nice new shotgun, or just pay 700 Store Credits (Aurum) for an immediate unlock? P.S. thats probably the best part of $10 per unlock at that price.
I have to say the basic mechanics of DUST are far better, despite the massive (and meaningless) content in PS2. Turrets that turn as fast as you can move your mouse, mass hacking and bizzare bouncy and fast movement mean that while fun, its hard to take seriously. DUST is far more realistic.
And the bunch saying 'but its not 4.5, its 45!!!'. Well, explain to me what the difference between 4.5/10 and 45/100 is please Sweet JC how stupid are you? Sorry for the insult but sometimes it really is justified. |
Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:09:00 -
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Sorry but grinding (alot of guns in Planetside 2 are 500 and 750 certs BTW) 1000 certs in Planetside 2 takes half as much time as unlocking a useable proto gun in dust. Plus in dust you have to upgrade tons of side skills just to get the gun to fit a suit, so the entire proto fit is like a 3-4 month grind, or just buy it (P2W) within a few days with dust. PS2 there is no side grind, if you want the gun you grind, you dont have to grind 5 side skills just to fit the gun. Lool. PS2 has there system much better refined for f2p IMO.
Lets be honest here guys, dust is the biggest grind in fps history. Just admit it and the game might get better.
Oh and PS2 doesnt constantly tell you to buy Station cash like dust does with the market page constantly showing pay guns and the lady in the Lobby having numerous lines saying things like "Do more with Aurum" "Do more faster Aurum" " "..Purchase Aurum today" really no comparison, considering these things dont exist Planetside.
That is a no bs post in comparison, and a 4.5 is pathetic for Dust compared to Planetside 2's dozen or more GOTY awards. Review score was padded IMO, I would give dust a 3/10. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
112
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:15:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Just responding to your post not the actual review (why read it? i already play the game ) ... I've never found the AUR push to be intrusive. It's free to play not play to win so it's like... how they make money. Some people have an issue with companies making money... ... I however, am not a communist. If you do not like Dust, you are a communist. Are you a communist Gosh darn commie pinkos invadin' my game... Down with 'em I say! |
Viktor Zokas
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:24:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:People who don't put enough time in the product to realize that
1. All aurum items have ISK equivalents and 2. The best weapons in the game can't be bought with aurum (officer weapons)
only prove to me that they shouldn't be reviewing anything. Opinions void.
Yea, but no one is gonna put the time into something they feel is a waste of time to begin with. Dust is at that spot. |
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Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
12
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:26:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game.
From the review: "[...] ItGÇÖs a bit like a farm equipment company deciding to get into sports car manufacturing. [...]"
So what? That's exactly the story of the "ill-fated" and "unknown" car maker Lamborghini right there...
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Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game. From the review: "[...] ItGÇÖs a bit like a farm equipment company deciding to get into sports car manufacturing. [...]" So what? That's exactly the story of the "ill-fated" and "unknown" car maker Lamborghini right there...
Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy?
Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you? |
Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
12
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:35:00 -
[53] - Quote
Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game. From the review: "[...] ItGÇÖs a bit like a farm equipment company deciding to get into sports car manufacturing. [...]" So what? That's exactly the story of the "ill-fated" and "unknown" car maker Lamborghini right there... Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy? Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you?
Nope. But I made another mistake: I didn't read it to the end before I posted here Last sentence in the review: "[...] Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear."
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Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:43:00 -
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Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:New Game Network Dust514 ReviewHe has alot of valid points, one being the shoving of "Buy Aurum" in your face all the time, framerates, dull graphics and the connection to eve non existant. He is very accurate, CCP please read and take notes, as this is the average reaction to this game. From the review: "[...] ItGÇÖs a bit like a farm equipment company deciding to get into sports car manufacturing. [...]" So what? That's exactly the story of the "ill-fated" and "unknown" car maker Lamborghini right there... Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy? Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you? Nope. But I made another mistake: I didn't read it to the end before I posted here Last sentence in the review: "[...] Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear." Your right he did leave it open to hope which is what has fueled this fanboi driven game for the last year and look where we are. |
Not Sentient Archon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:45:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:Your right he did leave it open to hope which is what has fueled this fanboi driven game for the last year and look where we are.
You are spot on dude and so is the reviewer. Just ignore the morons! |
Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
12
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:58:00 -
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Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:
[...]
Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy?
Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you?
Nope. But I made another mistake: I didn't read it to the end before I posted here Last sentence in the review: "[...] Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear." Your right he did leave it open to hope which is what has fueled this fanboi driven game for the last year and look where we are.
Even if your argument is somewhat true, I don't think that's fair to say that way: it isn't (!) released for a year at all. |
Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:05:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:
[...]
Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy?
Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you?
Nope. But I made another mistake: I didn't read it to the end before I posted here Last sentence in the review: "[...] Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear." Your right he did leave it open to hope which is what has fueled this fanboi driven game for the last year and look where we are. Even if your argument is somewhat true, I don't think that's fair to say that way: it isn't (!) released for a year at all.
The issue is the game has been in developement for 8 years, I personally have been playing for over a year and VERY VERY little has been done. I mean entire games are built in a year, what is so complicated with dust? It is the fact ccp has never built a fps and they believe they have all the time in the world, because they built eve and it took time. Also with only 28 people working on dust not much can happen. If profits were viable more would be brought in but we all know dust is not profiting ATM.
Well REALITY CHECK fps console fans wont wait like the spreadsheet in space that eve is. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:Sgt Pseudo wrote:Gene Rokel wrote:
[...]
Are you defending dust with the reviewers terrible analogy?
Lool it is a 4.5/10 you can do better than that cant you?
Nope. But I made another mistake: I didn't read it to the end before I posted here Last sentence in the review: "[...] Perhaps one day it will be. Lamborghini started out making farm equipment, I hear." Your right he did leave it open to hope which is what has fueled this fanboi driven game for the last year and look where we are. Even if your argument is somewhat true, I don't think that's fair to say that way: it isn't (!) released for a year at all. The issue is the game has been in developement for 8 years, I personally have been playing for over a year and VERY VERY little has been done. I mean entire games are built in a year, what is so complicated with dust? It is the fact ccp has never built a fps and they believe they have all the time in the world, because they built eve and it took time. Also with only 28 people working on dust not much can happen. If profits were viable more would be brought in but we all know dust is not profiting ATM. Well REALITY CHECK fps console fans wont wait like the spreadsheet in space that eve is.
i think this guy needs to read more, or something. |
Gene Rokel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:16:00 -
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Read what? I think you need to play more you would see the failure dust is, but with your rosey red glasses you believe dust is going down the right path.
Funny kids |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
518
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:40:00 -
[60] - Quote
The reviewer in the comments kept restating how he liked the concept, and understands that it will take time to improve. He was just giving a fair objective review of its current state. |
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JerechD Diaboli
DEATH FROM ABOVE CORP
14
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Still another game reviewer who judges the game without even hitting 1 million SP, if you don't invest time in Dust you won't like it. Even the thing about not knowing about the lore was wrong, when I first came in I knew nothing but after about a month of sticking with it I started learning more and more.
And this is why the Dust 514 playerbase will not rise. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
334
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:32:00 -
[62] - Quote
Rogatien Merc wrote:Just responding to your post not the actual review (why read it? i already play the game ) ... I've never found the AUR push to be intrusive. It's free to play not play to win so it's like... how they make money. Some people have an issue with companies making money... ... I however, am not a communist. If you do not like Dust, you are a communist. Are you a communist YES STALIN DEMANDS TOTAL OBEDIENCE |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:This is what happens when you end your Beta too early to try and get your contract with Sony to go by faster
I'm tired of hearing this speculation presented as a fact. No proof, no truth. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Reviewer just downloaded it and played it for an hour at best
Lazy bastard
How many potential new players play any more than that before they move on?
If you're not a fanboi you have no reason to stay with the game any longer. CCP will hurt for this.
MOVE THIS GAME TO THE PC NOW!!!
Better yet, have it be a part of the EVE download. Have DUST chars integrate with your EVE characters. It's the only real way the EVE/DUST connection will have any meaning. |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:46:00 -
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ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it.
Oh really? That's funny cause one of the things about that PS2 you seem to think is so much better then DUST is grinding for guns; unless you pay of course. If your a free2play player it takes just as long if not longer to get a new gun in ps2 then a proto gun in DUST. Please don't knock on something in DUST and act like it's horribly p2w when it really isn't that bad; is grinding bad in its current state? Absolutely. Would a smart person buy the AUR variants so he doesnt have to grind for them? No; but far be it from me to accuse people of intelligence.
Now that I have that off my chest I'm not a CCP fanboy; this game needs work and the "release" was ill advised and ill conceived, I am just more patient then most and know how to not burn myself out. When ps2 comes out for the ps4 I hope this is fixed and f2p players aren't screwed like on PC; cause I'm a console gamer, I like playing on my console more then my somewhat decent computer, and I'm also a f2p player who only buys in game items that are aesthetic in purpose. I like the idea of ps2 and will be playing it once its out on ps4 alongside (gasp) DUST and others I enjoy. Playing TWO (or more) different games? What fuckery is this?
Back to the topic at hand; I can see why someone who played for a day or so would think the AUR sales are "in your face" but most of us think otherwise; I can also see how the AUR items are presented that makes it seem p2w. I think a fix for this would be get rid of the AUR items we have now over the STD variants, let people get a tase of the weapon with AUR, not get full proto. Then make aesthetic items like suit and weapon coloring, logos, eye color change, etc. Hell I'd like to see AUR used to customize my merc quarters; I'd spend money out the a** to make my merc's room bigger and look much more like MY merc's room, not just "faceless Gallente merc room".
Overall my opinion of the game is a 5/10 alone and a 7/10 with friends and a corp to play with on a regular basis. Not a AAA blow your mind game, but a decent to above average game.
Vae Victis |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.08.15 21:07:00 -
[66] - Quote
Why does every reviewer mess up on aurum items not being PW2? |
kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.08.15 21:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote:Any game that requires 6 weeks to unlock a gun compared to just buying it instantly is P2W, the scale is waaay too far apart.
Any new player would be ******** to grind for 6 weeks for a gun when he could get it day 1 for a few cents.
The scale is too far apart. Not that aur equilivent guns are the same as isk varients, its the distance between them.
6 week grind or buy it now=P2W yall fanbois just dont get it.
Wai-wai-wait...In Planetside 2...Don't you either grind up to a gun, or pay 7 bucks for it? Fair question |
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