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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1079	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:05:00 - [1] - Quote are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you.
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 262	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:08:00 - [2] - Quote No I never used the FG and I am asking for the nerf threads to just chillax. I use an HMG main and just skilled into sniper for fun, but apparently I chose the wrong time to do that.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:09:00 - [3] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. No. I know your type, proto Dropsuits poto AR and Pub stomping LOL.Got a littlesoreon those CAL LOGIS? You just want to stomp everything with your Proto crp and nothing being able to stop you. Keep Moving or get FG in tha face. FG are fine. If you get killed by a FG, you just sck.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2476	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:12:00 - [4] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. Hi there, I'm a very vocal Vehicle player. Forge Guns aren't OP, get the **** out. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 140	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:18:00 - [5] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. Hi there, I'm a very vocal Vehicle player. Forge Guns aren't OP, get the **** out. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! Agreed.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:27:00 - [6] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. No. I know your type, proto Dropsuits proto AR and Pub stomping LOL. Got a little sore on those CAL LOGIS? You just want to stomp everything with your Proto cr*p and nothing being able to stop you. Keep Moving or get FG in tha face. FG are fine. If you get killed by a FG, you are not as good as your K-D ratio says... try again, I have proto nothing. My KDR just reached 1.0 today.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:28:00 - [7] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. Hi there, I'm a very vocal Vehicle player. Forge Guns aren't OP, get the **** out. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! convincing argument. bravo
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:29:00 - [8] - Quote Its one thing whether CCP should listen to the masses on forums about nerfing but the idea that we they should effectively freeze any attempts to balance this game further is ridiculous.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 523	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:30:00 - [9] - Quote Not so. I've gotten my butt handed to me in a PC battle. Died many deaths due to flaylock and mass drivers. Yet and still, I say give me your best and your worst so that when I come out on top, I know it wasn't because of some nerf.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2476	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:30:00 - [10] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. Hi there, I'm a very vocal Vehicle player. Forge Guns aren't OP, get the **** out. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! convincing argument. bravo Bows King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!

21yrOld Knight 187. 57	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:30:00 - [11] - Quote Content i want content at the moment instead of balancing. I use a variety of weapons proto ar, Adv Scr, Laser, sniper, and Scrambler pistol. I think the balance is just fine at the moment even if some people disagree.
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 270	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:31:00 - [12] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. No. I know your type, proto Dropsuits proto AR and Pub stomping LOL. Got a little sore on those CAL LOGIS? You just want to stomp everything with your Proto cr*p and nothing being able to stop you. Keep Moving or get FG in tha face. FG are fine. If you get killed by a FG, you are not as good as your K-D ratio says... try again, I have proto nothing. My KDR just reached 1.0 today. I got proto nothing and my kdr is 1.47
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:34:00 - [13] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Content i want content at the moment instead of balancing. I use a variety of weapons proto ar, Adv Scr, Laser, sniper, and Scrambler pistol. I think the balance is just fine at the moment even if some people disagree. Theres no reason they can't do both. Balance tweaks take a moment of consideration, not massive time to implement. changing values is easy. changing mechanics is hard. Like when they fixed mass driver explosion latency problems or whatever. Which obviously had some change in how the weapon preforms. But once guns are set, to tweak a spash radius, or damage, or rate of fire is nothing which precludes new content from being produced in the slightest. This is a false choice.
Cosgar ParagonX 4134	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:34:00 - [14] - Quote Most people that cry for nerfs have this perfect world scenario where the game is only fair and fun for themselves and nobody else. They want to tell others what they should do and how they should play through any means while holding up meaningless prestige in a flawed game mode like it matters when it only counts for 1% of the content we have. They never support their claims with numbers, examples, or any degree of proff and are prone to circlejerk with other like minded individuals that share in their flawed logic.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:35:00 - [15] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. No. I know your type, proto Dropsuits proto AR and Pub stomping LOL. Got a little sore on those CAL LOGIS? You just want to stomp everything with your Proto cr*p and nothing being able to stop you. Keep Moving or get FG in tha face. FG are fine. If you get killed by a FG, you are not as good as your K-D ratio says... try again, I have proto nothing. My KDR just reached 1.0 today. I got proto nothing and my kdr is 1.47 =D I have only militia and often don't really try when I'm playing because this game does not reward winning. I give it some effort if I'm feeling bored with losing, even though it really does not matter.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:36:00 - [16] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. No. I know your type, proto Dropsuits proto AR and Pub stomping LOL. Got a little sore on those CAL LOGIS? You just want to stomp everything with your Proto cr*p and nothing being able to stop you. Keep Moving or get FG in tha face. FG are fine. If you get killed by a FG, you are not as good as your K-D ratio says... try again, I have proto nothing. My KDR just reached 1.0 today. Then Hellstorm Inc. is not what they were when i was in your alliance LOL. Still , FG are ok.The Huge SP sink and the fact they are a Heavy Only weapon compensate a lot, among other things, useless in CQC , slow reload, no aiming options, etc.... If you think they are THAT GOOD OMG FOTM , then use them yourself and see you when you have a 0.5 K-D ratio....
echo47 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:36:00 - [17] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Its one thing whether CCP should listen to the masses on forums about nerfing but the idea that we they should effectively freeze any attempts to balance this game further is ridiculous. Okay, so how do you "balance" when all items are not in the game. The items, suits and vehicles not inthe game could very well be the counters to what QQers consider OP . Personally I prefer a counter rather than a nerf. CCP's "balance" attempts right now look like nothing more than a reaction, nothing proactive about them.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 841	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:40:00 - [18] - Quote I am not one to cry about OP cause no matter what weapon I use.. it turns Op. I can get one shoted by a miltia FG while I am in full proto, and that not being slightly messed up...but taking me 5 seconds to melt a proto wearer in chromo caused a full revanp of the LR..... something is not right here
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:41:00 - [19] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: I am not one to cry about OP cause no matter what weapon I use.. it turns Op. I can get one shoted by a miltia FG while I am in full proto, and that not being slightly messed up...but taking me 5 seconds to ment a proto wearer in chromo caused a full revanp of the LR..... something is not right here Yeah, having proto level gear and still dont know how to avoid FG? WOW. i mean.. WOW... I can avoid FG fire just fine and i run Basic/ADV heavy LOL. You know, something called cover?
BLKDG ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 58	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:43:00 - [20] - Quote If you got nailed by a fg More thwn likely you stood still too long Or ran in a straight line Serpentine serpentine! !

Buster Friently Rosen Association 1599	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:43:00 - [21] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: are using something that's OP and they're terrified of having that leveled out too. Hello forge gunners! We see right through you. FG is fine. It's mostly the AR users who have suddenly seen the light and believe that nerfing needs to stop.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 698	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:44:00 - [22] - Quote If FGs were really OP, you'd see more of them in PC. Think about it. First, TARs were basically required. Then Flaylocks were used primarily. Those WERE OP. Forge Guns are good in the right hands, which is exactly how every weapon should be.
Cosgar ParagonX 4136	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:45:00 - [23] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: I am not one to cry about OP cause no matter what weapon I use.. it turns Op. I can get one shoted by a miltia FG while I am in full proto, and that not being slightly messed up...but taking me 5 seconds to melt a proto wearer in chromo caused a full revanp of the LR..... something is not right here Wasn't the Viziam's damage or heat build up bugged back in Chrome?
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:47:00 - [24] - Quote echo47 wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Its one thing whether CCP should listen to the masses on forums about nerfing but the idea that we they should effectively freeze any attempts to balance this game further is ridiculous. Okay, so how do you "balance" when all items are not in the game. The items, suits and vehicles not inthe game could very well be the counters to what QQers consider OP . Personally I prefer a counter rather than a nerf. CCP's "balance" attempts right now look like nothing more than a reaction, nothing proactive about them. Good point. CCP spoke about this as a problem in how they are developing and recognize they need to achieve a balance between how weapons are, and how they will be. If something IS too broken in present gameplay and will remain so for a year, that is not the right side of the equation. By virtue of their incomplete 'release' it IS necessary to be balancing the game as if two games at once. There is no other way around it. Still should not interfere with content production so I fail to see the problem.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 169	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:47:00 - [25] - Quote This thread is groovy.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1080	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:49:00 - [26] - Quote DS 10 wrote: If FGs were really OP, you'd see more of them in PC. Think about it. First, TARs were basically required. Then Flaylocks were used primarily. Those WERE OP. Forge Guns are good in the right hands, which is exactly how every weapon should be. Nope because people don't like heavy frames as much. Less people have tested forges themselves or seen them being used , hence less people using them. Besides its a different gun-play style than COD or whatever crap most AR fans come from. Also with so few people speced into proto forge they rarely get to see the devastation of that weapon, to be inspired into specing it If there was a godsuit that killed people by looking at them, and few people used it, it would still be OP. If there was only a single person using the forge gun in all of Dust it would still be OP. Its the gun that is OP, not the number of players flocking to it.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 698	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:51:00 - [27] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: I am not one to cry about OP cause no matter what weapon I use.. it turns Op. I can get one shoted by a miltia FG while I am in full proto, and that not being slightly messed up...but taking me 5 seconds to melt a proto wearer in chromo caused a full revanp of the LR..... something is not right here Forge Guns have been able to OHK direct impact as long as I've played the game. Why are people just now complaining? Must be because the weapons are actually really balanced right now. Mass Drivers could use a small tweak, but they're not insane. People just complain because they think dying by anything means OP.
Cosgar ParagonX 4138	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:51:00 - [28] - Quote DS 10 wrote: If FGs were really OP, you'd see more of them in PC. Think about it. First, TARs were basically required. Then Flaylocks were used primarily. Those WERE OP. Forge Guns are good in the right hands, which is exactly how every weapon should be. My only gripe about FGs is that draw distance can make them impossible to find.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 698	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:53:00 - [29] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: DS 10 wrote: If FGs were really OP, you'd see more of them in PC. Think about it. First, TARs were basically required. Then Flaylocks were used primarily. Those WERE OP. Forge Guns are good in the right hands, which is exactly how every weapon should be. Nope because people don't like heavy frames as much. Less people have tested forges themselves or seen them being used , hence less people using them. Besides its a different gun-play style than COD or whatever crap most AR fans come from. Also with so few people speced into proto forge they rarely get to see the devastation of that weapon, to be inspired into specing it If there was a godsuit that killed people by looking at them, and few people used it, it would still be OP. If there was only a single person using the forge gun in all of Dust it would still be OP. Its the gun that is OP, not the number of players flocking to it. I guess it's a good thing for us FGers that CCP goes by usage data to determine whether or not weapons get nerfed.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 698	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:55:00 - [30] - Quote Cosgar wrote: DS 10 wrote: If FGs were really OP, you'd see more of them in PC. Think about it. First, TARs were basically required. Then Flaylocks were used primarily. Those WERE OP. Forge Guns are good in the right hands, which is exactly how every weapon should be. My only gripe about FGs is that draw distance can make them impossible to find. If it makes you feel better, I have a really hard time finding snipers that hassle me the whole game. Draw distance in general needs worked on. That really is no fault to the weapon.



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