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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:38:00 -
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Since I began playing Dust several months ago, I never really "got" it. Meaning, it never really clicked with me. Sure, I'd log in, play a few matches (and normally feel the "grinder" that pub matches are), and log off, happy to know that my skill points would accrue (to give me some resilience against proto gank squads), but normally I'd just log off and be frustrated at the glaring imbalances and general "un-funness" of the game.
This weekend, I had a free 1.3 mil sp that had been accruing that I really couldn't decide where to put (since we can't really try things out, I don't really want to commit to any one weapon or suit, considering that we don't know what's coming and I don't want to have a jack-of-all-trades-but-master-of-none.) Well, I decided to give logi a go. I said "maybe we'll get to respec later, but for now I'm going to commit to Gallente suits and try healing."
My world changed. I had found my Dust. My Dust is the logi player: dropping uplinks, reviving teammates with injectors, repping guys when I see their armor bar being shredded. It was a blast. A BLAST. I'm a pretty good shot--certainly not the best, but I do ok--but now that didn't matter. I could have a real impact on my team by being their medic. I can drop tactical uplinks at capture points, I can stay hidden and still gain WPs in the match. This totally works for me, and for the first time, I found myself logging off (for sleep no less) and saying "Damn, I can't wait until tomorrow to play some more Dust!"
So here's the takeaway CCP: you must provide a proving ground, new player experience, militia pack, starter suits, etc. that let players experience ALL aspects of the game. I got my Dust only after months of general frustration and aimlessness, and that's largely because I stand with CCP. If it simply was a matter of Dust carrying me as a new player, I don't know if I would have stuck with it. New players have to be able to "get" it, and they have to get it early on. If there were a "battle room" or something similar where I could experience being a logi (or heavy (which I never have!)) then maybe I would have got it much sooner, and I'd have been a much happier player as a result. (I did see that you sell starter weapon packs of 200 of each light weapon, say--for 40,000 aurum?! No, that's not going to work.) The other thing that really turned me around to "non-traditional" means of getting WP was using my "free" templar uplink I got from the CE. I had no idea you get WPs for spawns, nanohives, etc. It was truly eye-opening, and it enriched the game for me in a way that I had not experienced before.
The second thing I did was squad up with some random guys I saw. (Since I was logi now, I had a purpose, and that purpose was to keep my "new" squadmates alive.) This again changed the game for me. I noticed that I was getting more WP-per-action, which in turn game me more isk and sp at the end of the matches! It didn't feel like a grind so much anymore, because I had a purpose and I was being better rewarded for it. (Incidentally, those guys I randomly squadded up with were pretty good, and I was able to join their corp.) At that point, I didn't feel so much like a lone wolf facing proto death squads alone. We were a team, a band of brothers, doing it together.
That's how I got my Dust. I hope that other players in a similar situation to where I was before this weekend find that special something so that you "get" it as well. I'd urge you to try drop uplinks--the militia ones suffice--and see how cool it is that you can change the battle by being able to drop a spawn point AND you get WPs for doing so!! Or buy a nano-hive and see how neat it is that not only can you refill your ammo, but you get WPs for when your teammates do, too. The starter suits have a free equipment slot, so I know that you have room.
There's still many things to fix in Dust, to be sure. But "getting" it, at least for me, isn't one of them. |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1064
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:43:00 -
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I think skrim game mode needs stages put into or things to blow up rather than run around circules we have now. With a focuse a think a lot more players will find their thing |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
950
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:45:00 -
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How i got my "Dust"
Was finding out i love the heavy.
Just the sheer amount of firepower that the hmg can put out.
I love seeing someone come around a corner, see i'm a heavy, and then run away. I love that!
I am able to kill multiple people at once, and with a good logi behind me, i'm unstoppable.
Thats my dust 514. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
396
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:49:00 -
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*Logibro high-5*
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro |
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JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
561
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:52:00 -
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Best post I've read in a while tbh +1. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
391
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:53:00 -
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The largest problem that CCP faces (amoung so many others) is their Battle Acadamy system in its current state. 400 Warpoints and then those new players are booted into the real matches, where they are pub stomped by proto gear and big-time corps all day long. It discourages new players because once they are exposed to being killed over and over again, they don't get many chances to earn a lot of WP and SP to skill into what they want and find their true fit.
If CCP doesn't change the ways they handle new players (what scares me is this 400 WP rule was just recently implemented), they run the high risk of losing so many more players just because of CCP's lack of competence in how console gamers should be treated, as opposed to say, dedicated PC players. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
159
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:57:00 -
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My Dust? Well, I was mainly just a heavy with a FG, long before Uprising and whatnot. Anti-tank, anti-dropship, anti-LAV- whatever I could take down, I was up on the front line to do it. Time rolled by. Many vehicles and infantry destroyed by that FG of mine.
But for what?
The teams I rolled with normally wouldn't give me support fire against the infantry railing me in the back while I solo high end tanks so that my team wouldn't have to die by them. I suppose this partially why I went into the logistic way of things.
Later on, I did go into logistics and it's my full support. If I feel I can trust my team to do what they're supposed to, I'll put down my FG and go into my medic role. Picking people up, healing, resupplying. If I find another logibro, I try to stick with him/her. Two medics together is devastatingly good, and we often times set up a small "recovery clinic" somewhere for the team (which is fantastic, by the way).
After a while of this, I learned something about both my role of the heavy and the logistic. I've been playing a support role all this time, just with different methods. One is the offensive, one is the defensive. I suppose "my Dust" is my team, not myself. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
708
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:01:00 -
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I started out as a logi bro, I enjoyed it alot, then the suits all changed with uprising, and I went assault.
honestly I miss the support role from time to time, I used to have alot of fun being in the thick of fighting picking people up and healing them.
that said I enjoy sniping a lot, more then that I enjoy finding new ways to detriment the enemies given the tool available to me. |
Jammeh McJam
Robbing The Hood
14
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:11:00 -
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My dust is my proto suit and my proto weapons,
the satisfaction of getting hate mail too... so funny because they're probs just another mlt or std noob with no gun game. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
748
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:14:00 -
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Cool man, glad you found your niche in this game! I far prefer reading positive posts than all the negativity on these boards. +1 |
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
429
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:16:00 -
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hmmm lets see how i got my "dust"
first started off being a logi, loved the WP gain but i loved the killings more and then that was when i discovered the HEAVY 
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Cpl Foster USMC
Uncle Sams Merc Clones
102
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:33:00 -
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My Dust....
I Love the role of a Sniper...I like the hate I get..i like bugging a group so much that they spend their teams hard work to Orbital Bomb me...me...1 lone person..it cracks me up..
just this morning I sniped a guy and 30 secs later he's running me over in a LAV...probably cause he lost a Thale's...now that's some rage right there...
only thing I want now is CCP to put the headshot sound on the receiving end so they know that while they were running and bunny hopping and juke and jive'n...that they still got shot in the head..... |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
628
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:49:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:My Dust? Well, I was mainly just a heavy with a FG, long before Uprising and whatnot. Anti-tank, anti-dropship, anti-LAV- whatever I could take down, I was up on the front line to do it. Time rolled by. Many vehicles and infantry destroyed by that FG of mine.
But for what?
The teams I rolled with normally wouldn't give me support fire against the infantry railing me in the back while I solo high end tanks so that my team wouldn't have to die by them. I've been passed up by so many nanite carriers that I sort of lost faith in being picked up. The lack of resupply left me dry to die. I suppose this partially why I went into the logistic way of things.
Later on, I did go into logistics and it's my full support. If I feel I can trust my team to do what they're supposed to, I'll put down my FG and go into my medic role. Picking people up, healing, resupplying. If I find another logibro, I try to stick with him/her. Two medics together is devastatingly good, and we often times set up a small "recovery clinic" somewhere for the team (which is fantastic, by the way).
After a while of this, I learned something about both my role of the heavy and the logistic. I've been playing a support role all this time, just with different methods. One is the offensive, one is the defensive. I suppose "my Dust" is my team, not myself.
Pretty much a mirror of myself on this score. It's been a very long time since I've been able to trust my team enough to run my Medi-Logi fit though. DUs, scanning, hacking and setting up resupply points is most of what my Logi does.
Urban combat with dual Scrambler Pistols is what I love but I'm more often needed as a FG to provide an AV presence for the team or Minmatar Logistics to place supplies and go for hacks when no one else seems to be doing it. |
TunRa
The Vanguardians
42
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:05:00 -
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Cpl Foster USMC wrote:My Dust....
I Love the role of a Sniper...I like the hate I get..i like bugging a group so much that they spend their teams hard work to Orbital Bomb me...me...1 lone person..it cracks me up..
Sometimes I orbiatal snipers because they think they can go a whole round without death by redline sniping. |
MCEINSTEIN08
Defective by Design
25
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:25:00 -
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Glad to find someone in my same state of mind.
I have a Caldari Merc, all the way to PROTO Logic, (10mil SPs) and now I realize I didn't like it, mostly because the Logic Proto Caldari only carry one light weapon.
So I created a Alt Merc. This time Amarr, and strangely I like it much better, I actually play better. And since the Logic Amarr has two light weapons I can run it for every loadout I want. Overall I think I like it much better, even though I started all over! But since there is no respec, I guess I haven't much of a choice.
Keep up the good fight. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3548
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:27:00 -
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I hate to break it to you but it's extremely unlikely you will ever get a respec in the future. CCP said there will be no more coming. However, they could reimburse parts of your SP if the SP requirements of skills you trained get reduced or if the skill books get removed.
Other than that, I agree that there needs to be a training ground of sorts and we should have militia-everything so that we can try out stuff before committing every drop of SP into it. But of course, militia-everything ain't gonna help if imbalances are still there. |
Seiox
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:28:00 -
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Positive post is positive. +1 |
Cpl Foster USMC
Uncle Sams Merc Clones
102
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:49:00 -
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TunRa wrote:Cpl Foster USMC wrote:My Dust....
I Love the role of a Sniper...I like the hate I get..i like bugging a group so much that they spend their teams hard work to Orbital Bomb me...me...1 lone person..it cracks me up.. Sometimes I orbiatal snipers because they think they can go a whole round without death by redline sniping.
redline or not, I always expect to die...i'm more surprised when I don't die... |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
763
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I hate to break it to you but it's extremely unlikely you will ever get a respec in the future. CCP said there will be no more coming. However, they could reimburse parts of your SP if the SP requirements of skills you trained get reduced or if the skill books get removed.
Other than that, I agree that there needs to be a training ground of sorts and we should have militia-everything so that we can try out stuff before committing every drop of SP into it. But of course, militia-everything ain't gonna help if imbalances are still there.
My God here we all are trying to enjoy this guys journey of discovery and fulfillment and you want to digress to make a stupid plug about no respecs. Shut the **** up! |
KingBabar
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
1049
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:44:00 -
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Well I found out how awesome AFK farming is, thats "my Dust" for the time being.... |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
764
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:48:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Well I found out how awesome AFK farming is, thats "my Dust" for the time being....
I hope Spec Ops Cipher Finds you AFK'ing  |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
60
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:51:00 -
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Seiox wrote:Positive post is positive. +1 Thank you; it was true. I'll be the first to post the doom and gloom on these forums, but honestly now, well, now that I "get" it, I can see the Dust package for what it is.
It's wholly different than other shooters on the market, and I think the differences could--they have the possibility to--create a stronger, dedicated player base. However, these differences aren't assured to be realized by new players. That's the troubling part, because that's what Dust is. It's different, and its supposed to be.
That's not to say that those differences can't be celebrated. Just reading in local over the weekend, I saw people unclear about the skill training system, confusion about using certain items and general angst about Dust on the whole. Unfortunately, and very true to the community, I saw that player get both help and trolled in local. So I think the solution should be that CCP really makes it a point to spell out the differences and to help new players embrace it.
A good suggestion I saw earlier was to have the War Academy end when a player chooses, say between 2,000 and 10,000 WP, so newbros have a chance to get more comfortable and leave on their terms. Another thing the Acad should do is provide all fits for all roles for free as long as the player stays in the Academy. What I'm thinking here--and certainly what would have helped me--is to get a player to *want* (as in to want for) to play a certain role. For me, for example, now I want to play logi. I think about the fits. I think about how to be a better logi, etc. If I had a taste of it early on in the Academy (I don't know if there was one during Chromosome), then I'd have known out the gate what specialty to explore. I would have been more driven out of the gate to get better logi-themed things, instead of spending sp in Assault suits and AR V (don't get me wrong, AR V makes me a better Logi, if only a support skill for logistics).
Also, perhaps there should be a matchmaking option that places people in squads with pre-determined positions (maybe just for Acad, maybe another game mode, etc.). But what I'm thinking here is a squad that's 1x Heavy, 1x Logi and 4x Assault (1H, 2L, 3A maybe). The matchmaking would automatically create a squad with these roles, squad the members up and let them communicate and play as a team. It may stop everyone from running in all different directions, and hopefully, it'd help newbros learn that Dust IS a game that you play in teams.
I found my band of brothers over the weekend, and I'm better off for it. I don't now have just a passing interest in Dust. I now want it to succeed. I want to share what I "got" with others, because now, I am a Dust promoter.
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Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
88
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:09:00 -
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I got my Dust when uprising deployed. It was when all the ARs showed up, now the end all be all weapon of the game, and broke alot of stuff. Thats when I vowed to destroy them and stop all newberries I can from using the AR. Since then I've been picking up lasers, scramblers, assault, logi, heavy, and every manner of vehicle to stop the AR.
I found my Dust. How did you find yours? |
Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
57
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Posted - 2013.08.12 20:03:00 -
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I found mine by filling whatever niche I see needs to be filled. As am I as good as a dedicated logi? Hell no. Nor is my heavy dropsuit all that protected, and my anti-armor suit tends to just plink against anything heavier than tier-1 for now. But armored or no, a heavy can still draw or scatter opposing troops, and a logi can still revive and repair folk even if not to the extent a dedicated one can. So I guess you could say my Dust is...team mom? :P |
McFurious
TeamPlayers
EoN.
288
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:13:00 -
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I was hooked when they announced the game in 2009. :P
But I suppose for me it was when I decided to try out the Mass Driver in closed beta. Never saw anyone else using it and it was tough to learn but I couldn't put it down. The first time I nailed a sniper in one shot at long range was when I knew I found my favorite gun. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
271
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:04:00 -
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We really need more exciting threads to read like this ... +1 ... |
The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:18:00 -
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Awesome post. It's refreshing to see positive things in the forums. Good reads to have people understand the game more. I thoroughly enjoy this game even with the understanding that theres work to be done. When I joined open beta I was a little overwhelmed with what the hell was going on. Luckily, I had friends that I played mag and warhawk with that I was able to get into their corp and be mentored. This is a team based game. Mics are necessary IMO and teamwork makes the experience more fun. Newbies need to realize that there are corps that will train people and give mentorship. Not everyone will like this game, and that's fine, to each their own. New players who are able to find a solid corp with people to help them with the learning curve are much likely to stick around. Lots more I could add but have to go back to work! Enjoy your logi role! |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2013.08.13 06:43:00 -
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good post, and lucky you my dust is scout..........no mater how broken they are scouts have always been the only thing in dust I really loved playing, maybe one day in the future I'll be relevent again. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
611
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Posted - 2013.08.13 07:34:00 -
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Pretty much the same for me...except that it was the day that I found out there was a repair tool in this game.
I honestly played the game for 2 months before I found it, and once that happened, I started skilling into other equipment and thought it was awesome.
We just need starter fittings with the four main classes, not just "assault" variants
For instance,
a light minmatar suit with a shotgun and sprint mods
a light gallente suit with a sniper, uplink, and scanning modules
a medium caldari suit with a AR, nanohive, and shields
a medium amarr suit with swarms, and a nanohive
a medium minmatar suit with a SMG, repair tool, and sprint mod
a medium gallente suit with an AR, injector, and armor
a heavy amarr suit with a forge
This would give everyone a wide selection of options to choose from, and everything would be militia. All a player would have to do is check out all of these suits and find out what they like.
A sniper, AR, and swarms is too little experience. You need at least one fitting with every type of militia weapon, every type of equipment, every type of suit, and every type of module. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
523
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Posted - 2013.08.13 07:50:00 -
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You too? My corporation was doing some practicing over the weekend and to fill in a vacant spot in a squad, I quickly formed together a Logibro. Man, I was having so much fun with it. Team Respawns, Triage, Guardian, Kill-all those WPs just kept flowing and it seemed because I was doing the job of keeping my guys alive, my squad's performance fine tuned itself.
I'm always assault by nature but now I have no quarrels about switching to the Logi fit and just supporting the squad. |
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Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge
Orion Empire
83
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Posted - 2013.08.13 08:20:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Well I found out how awesome AFK farming is, thats "my Dust" for the time being....
Please continue AFK farming, much more preferred than your corp proto stomping pub matches  |
Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge
Orion Empire
83
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Posted - 2013.08.13 08:25:00 -
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It was a good read +1
I very much agree with you, it can get boring playing solo just for the sp grind especially if either team are redlining the other team quickly. My Dust moments are when playing with others using mics and having close matches that each team are fighting hard to win until the end. |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.08.13 08:29:00 -
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game is broken yet yall sit around jerking each other off whilst praising dust? lol
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The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
833
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Posted - 2013.08.13 08:48:00 -
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Sounds like you got the CCP special. This is what the game is about, finding a role that you are good at and enjoy. Everything else is meh. I have been playing logi since the start of closed beta and I really enjoy the job. I enjoy rushing in to save a fat man or supplying my assault mercs, I enjoy knowing that I saved some dude a suit and helped my team keep fighting. People treat this game like any other fps and it should be treated like the game it is, a game for building reputations and friends. DUST is a slow burn game and if we don't ease ourselves in and play for fun then we are the ones who get burnt. Enjoy your game, play it like you want and don't let the little stuff burn you out.
Nice post, I like seeing posts that are positive. We need more threads about this game by people who are not doom and glooming or just trying to troll. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
182
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Posted - 2013.08.13 09:39:00 -
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Specialization is the key to having fun in this game.
Finding your role is step one, consider your endgame.
BTW once you get that Proto-repper expect lots of new friends. |
The Tunski
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.08.13 11:30:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:game is broken yet yall sit around jerking each other off whilst praising dust? lol
Works fine for me, maybe you should try reinstalling. |
Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
62
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:24:00 -
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My Dust is "hard mode", ie. scout suits.
I love zipping around at high speeds, outmaneuvering and outflanking the enemy, all the while being very aware that if I let anyone rest their sights on me for more than a fraction of a second, I'm dead as a doorknob.
I love engaging lone enemies or small groups, get their shields down with my fluxes and scrambler rifle, run around the corner to disappear, sprint around the building or whatever and take out their armor right before their shield starts regenerating.
I love seeing a heavy come up a staircase that I'm at the top of. That gives me the opportunity for one of my favourite moves: drop a nicely timed flux at the top of the stairs that blows up in his face, jump over the railing to land behind him in the staircase and blast his armor away from behind.
I love sneaking deep into enemy territory and placing an uplink that turns the match around. |
Marcus Kor-Azor
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:33:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:*Logibro high-5* hey logibro, where is the blue tag on this post? Is that some special sauce you only give to the most special threads??
Great post OP! Im glad you found what you like about dust. Im still finding my way but now ill look at roles outside of assault!
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InsertCoinHere
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:46:00 -
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Nice post, glad you found your niche in this game. I have always loved this game even though I get run over by cars and crap like that , it"s just part of it. But I tell ya, there's nothing like getting a 12 pack of beer and forming up with some cool ppl on a Friday night whipping butt. Have fun!!!!!!!!! |
Gorra Snell
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
80
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:01:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:
a light minmatar suit with a shotgun and sprint mods
a light gallente suit with a sniper, uplink, and scanning modules
a medium caldari suit with a AR, nanohive, and shields
a medium amarr suit with swarms, and a nanohive
a medium minmatar suit with a SMG, repair tool, and sprint mod
a medium gallente suit with an AR, injector, and armor
a heavy amarr suit with a forge
I think this list gets too long...you face the problem of 'where do you stop' with the variations, or you end up with 30 starter suits. You're point is excellent, but I think a better practical solution would be to make militia versions of everything available (why is there no militia HMG, for example?), and get a list along these lines, but no more than 5 or 6 fits, that sample as wide a variety of playstyles as possible. We need a militia logi suit (at least 2 equipment slots) again for one thing, and as you say, at least one light and one heavy. |
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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
28
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:19:00 -
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Since Uprising came out, I decided to stray away from the Logibro/Laser Rifle build and try out the scout. I've always found it to be generally fun (I die a lot more, but I make up for it with a few more kills), but it wasn't until a few matches ago that it really clicked for me.
Surprisingly, I was at the top of the kill-board, and so was this other minnie scout. I saw him come running down the side of one map, and tried to poke him with a few long range shotgun blasts (the idea being that most players will immediately turn around and run right at me, helping me to close the distance). Rather than turn around and engage, this guy took off running. And I gave chase. I think I chased this guy over the entire map. He would occasionally turn, and we would exchange submachine gun fire. He'd turn, and just run away.
Then I realized he was heading right back to a group of his own teammates, and I knew that I had to catch this guy before he could reach them. You see, he led me right into an ambush. I hopped around, and caught one assault with my shotty, before getting put down by the heavy that was guarding a choke point.
This game changes when one doesn't treat it like other FPS. The mechanics haven't been built up enough for it to compete with other FPS. My favorite part about Dust is the customization, the occasional (and hopefully more in the future) incredible teamwork, the chats in which a dropship pilot is treating it like a real mission, "Alright squad, we are about to be over the drop zone. Alright, GREEN LIGHT GREEN LIGHT TAKE BACK CHARLIE," and the hope for a brighter (albeit dustier) future.
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I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
615
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:07:00 -
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Gorra Snell wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:
a light minmatar suit with a shotgun and sprint mods
a light gallente suit with a sniper, uplink, and scanning modules
a medium caldari suit with a AR, nanohive, and shields
a medium amarr suit with swarms, and a nanohive
a medium minmatar suit with a SMG, repair tool, and sprint mod
a medium gallente suit with an AR, injector, and armor
a heavy amarr suit with a forge
I think this list gets too long...you face the problem of 'where do you stop' with the variations, or you end up with 30 starter suits. You're point is excellent, but I think a better practical solution would be to make militia versions of everything available (why is there no militia HMG, for example?), and get a list along these lines, but no more than 5 or 6 fits, that sample as wide a variety of playstyles as possible. We need a militia logi suit (at least 2 equipment slots) again for one thing, and as you say, at least one light and one heavy.
This is 7 starter fits, compared to 4...not that much extra. |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
352
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:24:00 -
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Good OP and I am glad you found some freshness out of this stale boring game.
I found my DUST way back during closed beta days but my dust has all blown away.
Broke game is broke game, meh maybe some day CCP will be able to fix it. |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:40:00 -
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Protected Void wrote:My Dust is "hard mode", ie. scout suits.
I love zipping around at high speeds, outmaneuvering and outflanking the enemy, all the while being very aware that if I let anyone rest their sights on me for more than a fraction of a second, I'm dead as a doorknob.
I love engaging lone enemies or small groups, get their shields down with my fluxes and scrambler rifle, run around the corner to disappear, sprint around the building or whatever and take out their armor right before their shield starts regenerating.
I love seeing a heavy come up a staircase that I'm at the top of. That gives me the opportunity for one of my favourite moves: drop a nicely timed flux at the top of the stairs that blows up in his face, jump over the railing to land behind him in the staircase and blast his armor away from behind.
I love sneaking deep into enemy territory and placing an uplink that turns the match around.
My Dust is very similar - I don't know what it is exactly, but I love the fact I spend my time running away from firefights; I giggle every time I have to do a 180 hoping that squad didn't see me. Probably because I know I can zip in out of cover and keep those guys occupied a long time, often long enough to draw them to a line of blues - it must be like trying to swat a fly. I get to be the guy who ambushes a squad who think they got their line secure - that moment you blast a heavy or a sniper who is completely oblivious to you...it all comes together.
Though really, it's all about the uplinks... |
Frodaris Sortana 2100058545
DUST University
Ivy League
68
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:43:00 -
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My Dust is being a LogiBro as well as a teacher of the LogiBro ways... nuff' said. :D |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
104
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:54:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:My Dust is being a LogiBro as well as a teacher of the LogiBro ways... nuff' said. :D Logibros really are where its at. I love seeing more and more people adopting the role, and it's especially gratifying to catch one of my teammates with a sliver of armor and bring him back up to full health.
And I really have to stress--in fact, I can't stress it enough--DUST IS SO MUCH BETTER PLAYING IN TEAMS. When you join a random public match, go to the "TEAM" tab in your chat boxes and SQUAD UP. Even if you're the shy type, you'll be working with a team: you'll be in a better coordinated squad, you'll earn more War Points per time and you'll get more ORBITAL STRIKES, since your squad will be stronger with more people getting WPs. You'll make more isk, and perhaps like I did, you'll find a good corp to join and experience Dust together.
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jin foxdale
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
50
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:07:00 -
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The Tunski wrote:Drud Green wrote:game is broken yet yall sit around jerking each other off whilst praising dust? lol
Works fine for me, maybe you should try reinstalling.
very good sir. +1 |
Oscar Neymar
Dogz O War
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:43:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare
Good for you bro , what a refreshing change it is to read someone liking the game  |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
659
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:25:00 -
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I found my role with the FG. Blasting LAVs to stop roadkill, keeping HAVs in check, destroying Dropships trying to deploy rooftop DUs... giving some measure of security to my team against all of these.
Even when vehicles are not an active presence it's a fine tool for suppression and providing support fire. Establishing a threatened area gives more of a safe zone for allies. Taking the time for aggressive flanking can also cause great discord to an enemy's defence of an area, too. It's like a sniper rifle except everyone immediately notices it which can actually be an advantage. Immediately splitting their focus is useful.
Though admittedly I did originally go AV to fight the biggest, meanest opponents available, the juggernauts that can turn the tide of a match. It's a bit like signing up to wrestle bears and getting a job throwing baby pandas out of an aeroplane. |
HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming
DARKSTAR ARMY
30
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:33:00 -
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I first love is the heavy with HMG lots of fun in the city or close quarters. Then my second love is my speed scout with uplinks run around get a quick hack then place an uplink for support. |
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
23
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:04:00 -
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I started out by sniping in ambush (yep, no redline sniping for me). Then I slowly moved over to tanks (slowly because getting all the sp to be effective is looooong) |
21yrOld Knight
187.
75
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:50:00 -
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Yes Vespasian Andendare you found it. The amazing part about this game being its direct battle roles. Also you found what is called the sandbox effect by ccp. One action can change everything in a timeline. Thank you Vespasian Andendare. |
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