don't nerf the ar. don't nerf the md. buff the hmg, buff the laser rifle, buff the plasma cannon.

I don't use the AR.

I find the AR rant threads to be stupid.

the current AR is in a decent place right now. it should be the baseline, average weapon, around which the rest of the weapons are balanced by role.

it kills fast, but not overpoweringly so.

the whining is achieving critical mass.

Like this guy says here. The AR is in a relatively good place. Other weapons need to branch out off the AR's sturdy all round performance. Use the AR as a benchmark and adjust others accordingly.

HOLY CRAP HE GETS IT!!!!

Also make armor tanking as viable as shields.

my problem is that CCP hasn't really tried to make any lasting fixes to important things. Hopefully 1.4 will bring some perminant fixes. then 1.5 will rebalance weapons i beleive. i can wait a month if i know things will be rebalanced. but if 1.4 sucks and they aren't gonna buff my stuff in 1.5 im out. as many players have i invested alot of spare time and attention in this game i even bought a pack. i've been playing this game for 5 months. Im trying to help new players and help retain them. but if their is no hope for change, why bother....?

I would generally use the AR IF CCP FIXES THE CONTROLS!!

so does the assault rifle in real life.

90% of gamers prefer assault rifle gameplay. Nerfing it because 90% of gamers prefer vanilla play isn't a justification, it's being an idiot.

if 90% of players use ARs, then it stands to reason that 90% of the kills will come from assault rifles.

I quote from the book of Goon 69:96

"And thus did Breakin Stuff Look down from on High and speaketh his word: DUH! For by math, shall ye be saved."

Yes, getting killed by the duvolle assault rifle in my very cheap standard heavy suit, very annoying. Nerf the AR please... Trololol

There was a spreadsheet that explained that AR damage does equal damage to shields and armor making it the weapon of choice to down someone.

Anything else that is kinetic like a grenade or Mass Driver deals less damage vs shields but a bit more against armor.
Same goes with Scram and Laser rifles which tend to affect shield but weaker vs armor.

AR's are annoying when you're killed by one fairly quickly but that's the nature of the beast of that kind of weapon.

And just relax about AR's killing you so fast - just relax and enjoy playing the game. It's not like you plunked down extreme monetary investment into this now did you?

Nerfing the AR is not the answer.

Getting the last two combat rifles into circulation is.

that won't make my HMG work. that won't make my shotgun more effective, that won't fix my Scr rifle. that wont, give my Lazer rifle a purpose, won't make the MD actual frightening.

that won't even garuntee that the combat rifles wont be prenerfed, or a viable option.

its long over due. everything else got nerfed, and if they arent gettign buffed, then ARs gotta get nerfed.

I just want to know. I want ot stick with this game. but, i really want to know if something is going to be done ...Anything to fix ARs OR buff everything else for balance.

Mint chip, Logi bro, eterni, Foxfour.... anyone.

It's not a problem with the AR being good, it's a matter of the LR sucking ass.

of all the weapons that NEED balance, the AR is at the bottom of that list.....

I just want to throw in my two cents that I don't use ARs, I'm a scrambler rifle guy mostly but I don't find AR to be overpowered. I do think some of the other weapons could use a balance pass to make sure they are noticeably better in their given niche, EG the laser rifle needs to beat the AR at range hands-down and it doesn't. It's not a problem with the AR being good, it's a matter of the LR sucking ass.

The LR was a horribly effective, vastly over powered weapon. It rained destruction from afar in mere seconds (2 max) in the hands of a skilled operator that learned how to maximize its accelerated range damage; Aim at something else before moving the beam onto the target. That ever increasing damage over time was the OP and generated a legion of LR users that sat safely back and beam destruction on Heavies.

Now that the LR is properly restricted those same users are QQ Kittens here on the forums attempting to reduce the AR such that their precious LR will rule once again. Assault Rifles are, and will be even in the future, the standard issue mid-range weapon. Tactical, burst and assault variant of all weapons are standard for DUST and CCP.

Distance is now back in the hands of snipers, major damage belongs to forge gunners, QCQ is the HMG (which I don't totally agree with) and the Evil that was the Flaylock has been nullified back to what it should have been, an alternative Small Weapon.

Recall that SP is very dear down in the DUST and most will not spec into both. Many AR wielders may eventually try the other weapons but to skill heavily into several commits precious SP Irrevocably to a path.

My weapon choices are few, while back in Chromosome they were many. SP was reasonable and inspired experimentation. Those days are gone. We are all in the grinder that is DUST.

Welcome. Or not. That is your choice.

The LR was a horribly effective, vastly over powered weapon. It rained destruction from afar in mere seconds (2 max) in the hands of a skilled operator that learned how to maximize its accelerated range damage; Aim at something else before moving the beam onto the target. That ever increasing damage over time was the OP and generated a legion of LR users that sat safely back and beam destruction on Heavies.

Now that the LR is properly restricted those same users are QQ Kittens here on the forums attempting to reduce the AR such that their precious LR will rule once again. Assault Rifles are, and will be even in the future, the standard issue mid-range weapon. Tactical, burst and assault variant of all weapons are standard for DUST and CCP.

Distance is now back in the hands of snipers, major damage belongs to forge gunners, QCQ is the HMG (which I don't totally agree with) and the Evil that was the Flaylock has been nullified back to what it should have been, an alternative Small Weapon.

Recall that SP is very dear down in the DUST and most will not spec into both. Many AR wielders may eventually try the other weapons but to skill heavily into several commits precious SP Irrevocably to a path.