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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2013.08.12 03:22:00 -
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I don't use the AR.
I find the AR rant threads to be stupid.
the current AR is in a decent place right now. it should be the baseline, average weapon, around which the rest of the weapons are balanced by role.
it kills fast, but not overpoweringly so.
the whining is achieving critical mass. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 03:58:00 -
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so does the assault rifle in real life.
90% of gamers prefer assault rifle gameplay. Nerfing it because 90% of gamers prefer vanilla play isn't a justification, it's being an idiot.
if 90% of players use ARs, then it stands to reason that 90% of the kills will come from assault rifles.
I quote from the book of Goon 69:96
"And thus did Breakin Stuff Look down from on High and speaketh his word: DUH! For by math, shall ye be saved." |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 07:13:00 -
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Play caldari logi is how to have fun?
Cripes! Why didn't you tell me I'm not having fun playing the most obnoxious fatty in DUST history???
How was I to know my HMG was less optimally fun? Does my forge gun suffer this deficiency?
You bring anecdotal evidence, and no hard facts. nothing is OP because you assert that it is OP.
Something is OP if numbers and facts prove it.
All I see here is that "the assault rifle beats everything." <---This would be an example of anecdotal evidence.
All nerf threads on the DUST forums save for a few who bring math to the party are anecdotal, and thusly worthless from a game balance standpoint. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 07:16:00 -
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Your second mistake is listening to D Legendary Hero.
He doesn't have a freaking clue what he's talking about.
He never does. All he does is run around like chicken little yelling "the Sky is falling!"
I have yet to hear a useful, and credible argument from his corner that didn't involve him shouting more loudly than the opposition, and he never brings evidence to the party. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 07:24:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:
Because ARs are useful and familiar and easy to pickup. If you want an OP weapon, try the high end forge guns.
go pick up a high end forge gun and try it out. and stop smoking crack while we're on the topic. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 08:50:00 -
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application on paper and application in practice are two different things.
My heavy fits, sentinel or otherwise do not die in 3 seconds to AR or anything else. On one gloriously memorable occasion I made a dipwad waste an entire mass driver drum on me (freedom mass driver). People who have shot at me and tried to splash me with forges don't live long.
1v1 generally they do not die. period.
You have lots of on-paper math which fails scrutiny in game. Just because ARs are violating YOU does not mean the rest of us are similarly challenged.
since CCP has denied your request to give heavies 30% resistance you're moving on to demanding nerfs on the weapons that actually kill heavies?
the assault rifle is the bread and butter weapon. many people use and are familiar with them, and know how to employ them. Similarly I know people who find similar utility in the scrambler and asscram rifles.
Further I have learned that presenting evidence contrary to your assertions is pointless because you don't even acknowledge it, much less evaluate it.
Every time this little cadre speaks (quit using alt accounts to like yourself and echo chamber your posts) sanity shrivels a little. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:00:00 -
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I dunno why I even bother. Every one of D Legendary Hero's posts somehow wraps back to "Heavies are UP and in need of serious buffs."
Fixing armor tanking fixes heavies. period.
further, when the caldari and minmatar heavies are released you can rejoice and enjoy the OP fatsuits you have always dreamed of (all hail shield tanks). Amarr heavies are armor tankers. go figure. There couldn't POSSIBLY be an imbalance there... NOPE!
but, every time I say fixing armor tanking fixes heavies... It's like his brain shuts off and he doesn't read, nor acknowledge the statement.
Allow me to spell this out in Crayon:
Heavies are not underpowered. they are suffering because armor tanking is imbalanced versus shields. When Armor tanking is as balanced as shield tanking, heavies will be fixed, and the Assault Rifle and Mass Driver will be less of hurt points for contentious butthurt. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 09:05:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:"***** and Moan... ***** and Moan... ***** and Moan..."
I honestly feel Assault Rifles are one of the most balanced weapons we have.
The only thing I'd change is the range of the Tactical Rifles, possibly.
I used to run Proto AR's, but then switched to Proto ScR's.
Now, I'm using Shotguns and occasionally the GEK-38.
shotguns are just fun. nothing says lovin' like a point blank blast with one of those babies. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:59:00 -
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low genius wrote:D legendary hero wrote:I just want to know. I want ot stick with this game. but, i really want to know if something is going to be done ...Anything to fix ARs OR buff everything else for balance.
Mint chip, Logi bro, eterni, Foxfour.... anyone. don't nerf the ar. don't nerf the md. buff the hmg, buff the laser rifle, buff the plasma cannon.
HOLY CRAP HE GETS IT!!!!
Also make armor tanking as viable as shields. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 08:22:00 -
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If our armor tanking was working as intended we could actually figure out what weapons are actually out of whack rather than playing these dumbass guessing games with the "what's broken" roulette wheel.
Fixing armor to be as desirable (not more, not less) as shields will allow us to actually have a real spot with which to evaluate weapons from an objective viewpoint. |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:28:00 -
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Nerfing the AR is not the answer.
Getting the last two combat rifles into circulation is. |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 07:21:00 -
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the other weapons are another ball of wax.
AR is in a good place. the other weapons need to be put in a good place for their roles now. The HMG is lackluster because there's very little CQC territory in DUST, so they wind up being marginalized.
the laser was flat overnerfed.
the mass driver, SMG and forgegun are in a good spot. people fear them, but they aren't an auto-IWIN button |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:18:00 -
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Sardonk Eternia wrote: It's not a problem with the AR being good, it's a matter of the LR sucking ass.
Wisdom has been found on this forum thread.
Bow before it you heathens. |
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:54:00 -
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Laser rifles are the amarr equivalent of the sniper rifle.
Kinda like the scrambler rifle is the amarr equivalent of the Assault rifle.
Noticing a pattern here?
Oh wait, you mean all of the weapons will have racial variants?
OH NO! CHOICES! I CAN'T CHOOSE! |
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