DUST Search - Remove Proto AV Temporarily

Harpyja wrote:

DS 10 wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

DS 10 wrote:

My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways.

We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8!

Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs

I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about.

Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me.

How many times do I have to say that there is NO better tank?

I can do nothing about OP forge guns. Especially the breach. You never see it charging, so the forger gets 4.5 seconds for free. Then another 4.5s while you are wondering what just hit you and BOOM!

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Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 493	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:51:00 - [1] - Quote Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel.
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 64	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:53:00 - [2] - Quote Get out of your murder taxi before you give me an aneurism.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 493	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:55:00 - [3] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: Get out of your murder taxi before you give me an aneurism. Wrong. I wasn't talking about that. Is it fair a proto breach FG can two-shot one of my highest EHP Gunnlogis? NO!
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 387	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:00:00 - [4] - Quote Nope, just get rid of everything with the PROTO and ADV tag. Tiercide FTMFW!
Nelo Angel0 The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 160	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:09:00 - [5] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. No. simple as that.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 493	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:11:00 - [6] - Quote Nelo Angel0 wrote: Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. No. simple as that. Yes. Simple as that. Then watch all the vehicles stop QQing
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 685	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:20:00 - [7] - Quote My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways.
Ragna Blood edge TeamPlayers EoN. 2	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:23:00 - [8] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Just get a better vehicle that simple and improve your vehicle maneuvering skills. Not that hard
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 493	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:24:00 - [9] - Quote DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 493	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:25:00 - [10] - Quote Ragna Blood edge wrote: Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Just get a better vehicle that simple and improve your vehicle maneuvering skills. Not that hard LOL there is no "better" vehicle. Go back to vehicle basics 101 kid. You don't belong here.

Ragna Blood edge TeamPlayers EoN. 2	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:25:00 - [11] - Quote DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. Exactly we grinded for our gear. Go grind for better vehicles like we grinded for proto av.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 686	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:28:00 - [12] - Quote Harpyja wrote: DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about. Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 236	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:30:00 - [13] - Quote As a tank driver on my alt, no way you have to leave the AV alone. I am not a great tanker... Maybe only barely a good tanker and my tank will live as long as another tank didn't get a hold of me, or some one with proto AV has good ground on me, and I only have about 4 mil SP. Give it another 2 or 3 mil and it will take a hellovalot more than that to take me down. The AV right now is pretty bad for tankers that don't tank smart, most of the tanks I lose are from being greedy and putting myself in a bad position.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3033	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:33:00 - [14] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Nope, just get rid of everything with the PROTO and ADV tag. Tiercide FTMFW! Hey, don't be giving people the wrong idea. Tiericide is about SUITS, not modules. Modules and weapons need to have meta levels to allow proper variety in fitting.
Cy Clone1 Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 194	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:35:00 - [15] - Quote I want more content not less. Give me more stuff
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 67	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:39:00 - [16] - Quote I played with a guy from TCD intoxicated. His name was drive arche...something. Anyway he said he put in about 11 mil or so into vehicles and has been playing since closed beta (back where vehicles were as flimsy as paper). Now he has a gallente LAV that's virtually invincible thanks to his ridiculous skill in armor damage resistance. he went about 18-0 just about every match and we won every single time. He's been playing since closed beta so I'm sure if you grind a bit longer you'll have an invulnerable death machine too!
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 497	Posted - 2013.08.11 17:45:00 - [17] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Harpyja wrote: DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about. Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me. How many times do I have to say that there is NO better tank? I can do nothing about OP forge guns. Especially the breach. You never see it charging, so the forger gets 4.5 seconds for free. Then another 4.5s while you are wondering what just hit you and BOOM!
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven EoN. 904	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:39:00 - [18] - Quote Sure, it'd balance tanks and drop ships, but then we would need to remove llavs BC they're already borderline unkillable by everything except a tank
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2022	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:45:00 - [19] - Quote Harpyja wrote: How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Your analogy is flawed due to the fact that: -ARs don't need to charge each shot for several seconds -People using ARs can run just as fast as I can, but people using forges would be left in the dust by your tank, which can move faster than scouts. -Militia ARs aren't comparable to Prototype Breach Forge Guns.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3046	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:47:00 - [20] - Quote Harpyja wrote: DS 10 wrote: Harpyja wrote: DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about. Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me. How many times do I have to say that there is NO better tank? I can do nothing about OP forge guns. Especially the breach. You never see it charging, so the forger gets 4.5 seconds for free. Then another 4.5s while you are wondering what just hit you and BOOM! Not to mention how you can circumvent the movement penalty completely by jump-strafing. We really need a fix for that broken hit indicator.

Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 353	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:48:00 - [21] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: Get out of your murder taxi before you give me an aneurism. Do you fail to bring the necessary tools for the job?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 353	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:52:00 - [22] - Quote DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. You're forgetting the near 10mil SP in vehicle upgrades to make them harder to kill. Then it's 1.8 to get the Logi LAV to lvl 5. The only reason I can see anyone using STD vehicles is to save on ISK. It takes several million SP to not get one-shotted by ADV AV.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 353	Posted - 2013.08.11 20:56:00 - [23] - Quote Ragna Blood edge wrote: Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Just get a better vehicle that simple and improve your vehicle maneuvering skills. Not that hard LOLLLLLLLLLLL! We don't have better vehicles. The best hull is the STD one.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 370	Posted - 2013.08.11 21:18:00 - [24] - Quote I can picture that someone who gets my 6 rockets at once can get a little butthurt
KPDATNIKKA Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.08.11 21:20:00 - [25] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV. We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV. How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Stfu quit running over mfs u sucka be a man not a trick mf run neggas over all the time
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 827	Posted - 2013.08.12 10:49:00 - [26] - Quote This will never happen because using teamwork is too hard for infantry
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1688	Posted - 2013.08.12 10:59:00 - [27] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: This will never happen because using teamwork is too hard for infantry Except it usually takes concentrated fire or a horrible driver to bust a tank quickly and if I remember right you guys also tend to drive away from your own blue dots as fast as you can since many tankers seem to rant and rave about guys manning their small turrets shooting things So you have one guy actively avoiding back up from his teammates up against a few other guys working together to quickly take him out since his weaponry is a huge threat And you say we are the ones that dont know how to use teamwork
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 639	Posted - 2013.08.12 10:59:00 - [28] - Quote Harpyja I feel your pain , but we should be campaining for tge introduction of proto havs not the removal of proto av. As much asI hate all the little proto av scrubs that feel like they are boss simply because thier iimbalanced wepons are op againdt our havs. My highest ehp gunlogi has an ehp of just over 10k thats nearly 4 or 5 shots from a breech forge before im into armour . What was your fit for it to get 2 shotted?
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 639	Posted - 2013.08.12 11:02:00 - [29] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Harpyja wrote: DS 10 wrote: My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about. Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me. 10mill sp into forges lol your drunk go gome. Maby 10 mill into your Heavy fit but not 10 mill into your forge allone lol.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 1837	Posted - 2013.08.12 11:06:00 - [30] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Mamertine Son wrote: Get out of your murder taxi before you give me an aneurism. Do you fail to bring the necessary tools for the job? Adv and proto AV is mostly for LLAV's anyways.



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