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Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:51:00 -
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Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:55:00 -
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Mamertine Son wrote:Get out of your murder taxi before you give me an aneurism.
Wrong. I wasn't talking about that. Is it fair a proto breach FG can two-shot one of my highest EHP Gunnlogis? NO! |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:11:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Harpyja wrote:Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. No. simple as that.
Yes. Simple as that. Then watch all the vehicles stop QQing |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:24:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways.
We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8!
Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:25:00 -
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Ragna Blood edge wrote:Harpyja wrote:Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Just get a better vehicle that simple and improve your vehicle maneuvering skills. Not that hard
LOL there is no "better" vehicle. Go back to vehicle basics 101 kid. You don't belong here. |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.11 17:45:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Harpyja wrote:DS 10 wrote:My IA FG takes 3 shots to take out a Logi LAV and usually 2 to take out a BR Saga. That seems more than generous to LAV drivers. It took me several million SP to get where I am with my FG. I put time into being able to use it. Stop crying and wait for 1.5 to complain. Nothing is changing til then anyways. We've been waiting for over a YEAR! You only have a few million SP, I have over 8! Also, LAvs are OP. Don't use them as an example, and you know it. HAVs are easier to destroy than LAVs I actually have 15 mil SP with around 10 in FGs. I know what I'm talking about. Your post said vehicles. LAVs are vehicles. As I said before, vehicles are being reworked in 1.5. Crying now won't do anything. They know about the issues. Besides, if I 2 shot your tank, you need a better tank. I have great battles with tankers every day. People assume tanks should be auto-win. Nope. If you don't wanna lose it, don't use it. Especially against me.
How many times do I have to say that there is NO better tank?
I can do nothing about OP forge guns. Especially the breach. You never see it charging, so the forger gets 4.5 seconds for free. Then another 4.5s while you are wondering what just hit you and BOOM! |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:56:00 -
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Vickers S Grunt wrote:2 shots from a breech forge 12 seconds is a lifetime for a infantry man if u can not hide in that time u deserve to die
But from my perspective it only takes 4.5 seconds. You never see a forge gun charging so the first shot is always free. By the time I get moving with the terrible acceleration, 4.5 seconds have past and the second shot hits.
@pegasis, I have slightly over 5400 shield with 38% resists. It's not my highest EHP due to what I was using it for but it is still way up there in EHP with almost 9000 EHP. |
Harpyja
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:43:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Get rid of murder taxis, then we can talk about proto AV removal.
I am totally fine with nerfing LAV health. I agree that those things are OP, or at least OP in comparison to HAVs and dropships. |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:55:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:Harpyja wrote:Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. Tell you what, let's temporarily remove proto AV and as a fair trade, we also remove LAV tires while it's gone. 
Read my OP again. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:04:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Harpyja wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Harpyja wrote:Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
How would you proto dropsuits like it if a militia AR can two-shot you? That's how we feel. No. simple as that. Yes. Simple as that. Then watch all the vehicles stop QQing False equivalency. Also, removing proto AV would make taking the other high-end vehicles out almost impossible without a full 6 man team of AV working in unison. Logi LAV's and logi DS's are already nearly impossible to drop due to their speed and maneuverability. So..... no. Here's how to fix your dilemma. Get CCP to fix the kb/m speed buff to tanks, then you can request a tank (prolly Amarr) with 1.5x the EHP and half the speed of a maxed armor tank with additional passive damage resistance. It has almost no hill climbing torque and cannot be speed boosted, but will be a crawling fortress with the ability to transport up to 6 people (no vehicle kill assists for regular passengers). Then you tankers will have your speed tank, your balanced tank, and your tanky tank that can double as an APC. Then you'll have a vehicle that can absorb hits just like every other vehicle class. NOW then, enough with the "remove proto" topics, it's not gonna happen so their's no point in trying
You're nothing more than a troll, why should I listen to you?
Even if you weren't, what you suggested made me disgusted at your solution for fixing things. |
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Harpyja wrote:Removing proto AV temporarily will be a temporary hotfix for the imbalance between vehicles and AV.
We are using STD vehicles that get two-shotted by proto AV. How is this fair? It isn't. I'm not even asking for the removal of ADV AV. If AV vs vehicles is still imbalanced, remove ADV AV next. But for now just remove proto AV.
For clarification purposes as people seem to think I'm QQing that my Saga murder taxi gets two-shotted, this has nothing to do with LAVs! Nerf their health, I don't care what, but they are OP compared to HAVs and dropships... Well, the Scout LAV should be buffed somehow. Look you little c**t. As it is you cant destroy ANY vehicle with a MLT/STD Swarm launcher. The Driver/Pilot must be a complete dumb f**k to even get killed by standard or advanced swarms or be running a MLT vehicle with No Mods on it. Except proto , you really dont have a chance SOLO trying to destroy a vehicle with a half brained pilot/driver...
The Forge gun is Highly effective vs dropships, Dont kill LAVs unless they stay still , and yeah, Tanks that wander too far into cities might get blown apart.
Av nades. SERIOUSLY. You need to be at 9 or less mts to use them. NO infantry is going to RUN 100+ mts to use their nades and TRY to hit a vehicle with them. If you get killed by them, you were NOT supposed to be there.
PE, dont work at all
Get off your freakn LAV and use the weapons . YOu'll se they are not as OP as you say. QQ about everything arent we....
Tanks should never be soloed unless if the driver doesn't know what he's doing. STD HAVs can put up fine against STD AV, and some ADV AV.
The only thing I agree with you is that LAVs are OP. Read my clarification in the OP.
The fact that you are trying to SOLO HAVs shows how wrong you are. HAVs need to require concentrated AV to take out, not some half brained person who can hold a forge gun, equip some damage mods, and pull the trigger. And swarms are EZ-mode, all you have to do is hold the trigger for a couple seconds, flick your right stick in the appropriate direction, and let go.
And your comment about AV grenades, you are basically saying that Madrugars should try to snipe infantry with blasters at 100m? A Madrugar is effective at close range, and guess what, you can throw AV grenades that far!
Also, yes, people will run 100m to throw AV grenades! Just earlier, me and my squad wanted to take out a railgun Soma, so we ran around towards it. My 3 STD AV grenades brought it down to low armor, then I was too busy to see what got the final blow. But then in the same spot came an AUR Gunnlogi, so I stand on my nanohive and whip AV grenades at it and it exploded.
But back to HAVs, even experienced tankers still get soloed by proto AV. So your statement about improper tactics where tanks rush into cities is invalid. We know better than to roam around without support. But if we get blown up way behind our support, then something's clearly wrong.
Impossible to destroy LLAVs? You sir are wrong again. I've lost my Charybdis so many times because I had several proto swarms unleashed upon me at once, which basically instapopped me. Like I am saying, it should take coordination to take out vehicles. Just like it takes coordination to take out a heavy. I'm surprised you AR fanboys haven't been wanting buffs to your ARs so that you can solo heavies one on one and win. It takes very good tactics to bring down a heavy by yourself, but in a clear out 1v1, the heavy wins. But for HAVs, any half-brained person can solo a HAV without tactics or coordination. |
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