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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1035
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:33:00 -
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over priced.
That's right, I said it.
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Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
75
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:33:00 -
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BOOM! Tell it, preacher! |
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:36:00 -
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I was going to laugh laugh at a dropships are over powered thread lauged at over priced thread instead bwahahaha |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
41
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:39:00 -
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Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1035
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:41:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot.
You pay a lot to be 2-3 shot by forge guns :P |
RedZer0 MK1
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
19
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:43:00 -
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Since a militia fit can cost around 3~5k depending, dropships should cost about the same. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7133
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:44:00 -
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Amen |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1037
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Posted - 2013.08.11 02:59:00 -
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Its funny to me how even the cheap militia dropships are EASILY 2 shot by militia AV. What on earth is the point of those vehicles if they start off so underpowered you can't fly one for a solid 30 seconds and survive against free gear? |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3016
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:03:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot. Well said.
However, it's still going to be damn hard to make the things last until they fix the hit indicator not showing where you were hit from so you can properly evade the next shot. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
244
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:13:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:over priced. Reading the thread title for a sec I thought you had finally cracked Nguruthos. Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about?
Good topic to bring back up. +1
Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill? |
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3016
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:15:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:over priced. Reading the thread title for a sec I thought you had finally cracked Nguruthos. Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about? Good topic to bring back up. +1 Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill? Yeah. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1038
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:18:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:over priced. Reading the thread title for a sec I thought you had finally cracked Nguruthos. Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about? Good topic to bring back up. +1 Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill?
yepp. The same ones that got a huge nerf before uprising.
They said the reduction would be about 1/3. It was more like 1/4th off,but then most came back in the form of turrets and hulls lol.
What used to be a 1.5 million ISK dropship is now like... a 1.3 million isk dropship.
Except they're still terrible so... |
Powerh8er
DIOS EX. Top Men.
39
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:20:00 -
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Yeah, and every helicopter in the world today can be shot down by a 2000 dollar RPG if the pilot is stupid or unlucky enough..., but that is not my point; the assault dropship needs is an advanced radar or lock on device, because its basically a flying bus with guns.
Air superiority? Only thing the assault dropship in this game can do is to annoy tanks and pick of unlucky or terrorize weak infantry. |
Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
161
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:28:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot.
Some parts I agree, that you can make a ship last four matches, hell i have had a ship last me a full week. but you are not much help to the team flying in a crazy formation avoiding anything with half a mind to fire at you, and you will only make about half of what you spent in those matches.
I consider myself to be a decent pilot, as I have flown them since open beta day one (never looked back since my first myron), but nothing can prepare me for the proto breach forge gun anywhere on the field, waiting for the one shot that will kill my strongest ship (4x Az shield ex.)
for the price that you get, I can buy a tank that can do the work of twice that I can in the sky, without a worry for half the things that a pilot should worry about.
the Assault dropship is a good tool to use in battle, but as of right now, they are Under-powered with an OP price. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
274
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:35:00 -
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was this ! bumped, B remade or is this Dai-zshah-voo?..... what you expect a Dyslexic to get the spelling on that right? (sadly I used spell check on 'Dyslexic.... stupid y) |
Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:39:00 -
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they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
274
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:43:00 -
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Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height.
well beside this comment being dumb since pilots who know for fact that this jibe is illogical I`ll just tag this as a fail comment, because at MCC height there are things to be hit by including all the AV, and for those embarrassing moments, the MCC itself. MCC eight is no where near out of range of AV. |
Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:49:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. well beside this comment being dumb since pilots who know for fact that this jibe is illogical I`ll just tag this as a fail comment, because at MCC height there are things to be hit by including all the AV, and for those embarrassing moments, the MCC itself. MCC eight is no where near out of range of AV. you don't take damage from the MCC unless they patched that. and AV hits from the ground to the dropship not because it is that high, just wait bomber will make everyone scream reduce height ceiling. but im waiting on amarrian tech to come out. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
42
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:18:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot. You pay a lot to be 2-3 shot by forge guns :P Buy afterburners. As soon as you come under fire, increase altitude and wave off until you can get someone in your squad to suppress and area, then follow up with a gun run.
This is the issue with the community, all of you want a one step fix to problems. Instead of planning out and coordinating attacks, the buck almost always stops at "MAH FLAYLOCK GOES BOOM!"
Useless. |
Cryius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:27:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters.
To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners
and I think I forgot
4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot. You pay a lot to be 2-3 shot by forge guns :P Buy afterburners. As soon as you come under fire, increase altitude and wave off until you can get someone in your squad to suppress and area, then follow up with a gun run. This is the issue with the community, all of you want a one step fix to problems. Instead of planning out and coordinating attacks, the buck almost always stops at "MAH FLAYLOCK GOES BOOM!" Useless. see someone who gets it. takes the least skill just increase height, thanks! |
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Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
43
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:09:00 -
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No, thank you. Though I have to admit, with certain torque boosters, that dropship WILL try to go vertical. Shouldn't be too hard to compensate for though.
Also:
Rusty Shallows wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:over priced. Reading the thread title for a sec I thought you had finally cracked Nguruthos. Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about? Good topic to bring back up. +1 Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill? Oh, Captain Well-Spec'ed here thinks the Maneuvering skill is dead weight! Buddy, it is unlocked at vehicle upgrades Level 1. LEVEL 1. And I wager that the cost to spec into Jovian thrusters is, at the end of the day, only a fraction of the skill it can cost used to spec into those Proto ARs everyone seems to favor. People who think those thrusters are useless obviously don't know what a 25% increase in torque output on a Python-class VTOL feels like. For you plebs that don't get mechanics, that is a lot of extra ponypower. Imagine transforming a flying school bus into an Apache helicopter. Slap on advanced missile silos and you are doing diving gun runs from near orbit at a pace that some guy in a heavy suit can't even track at.
If you still think that is useless, then consider this. With Uprising 1.5 coming up, you have to be at full speed to roadkill someone. In a modified scout car with Fusion accelerators, that won't be a problem. There have been times when I honestly thought I was going to go so fast I would time travel back into the 1960s and have to teach my father how to not be a *****.
That is a Back to the Future reference. You enjoy that. |
Kadar Saeleid
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
42
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:18:00 -
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So strange to hear a Darkstar down-playing ds pilot skill when one of the best pilots I've ever seen is in your corp. Ask Evolution-7 if piloting is easy, I'm sure he'll educate you. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
43
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:22:00 -
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Kadar Saeleid wrote:So strange to hear a Darkstar down-playing ds pilot skill when one of the best pilots I've ever seen is in your corp. Ask Evolution-7 if piloting is easy, I'm sure he'll educate you. Don't get me wrong, piloting can be aggravating as hell sometimes. But what I am trying to say is that there is a reason they are so expensive. For people who know how to use the tech well enough to commit to dropping the coin, it can make us rule the air. For that exact reason I don't want some guy who can just barely move forward fifteen feet potentially clogging my airspace.
Yes, a Jove core can make you do a loop-de-loop. It is also just as likely to drive you into a mountain if you don't know how to use it. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:25:00 -
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Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. No good Dropship pilot would be at MCC height anyway, unless they are evading swarms or forge gunners. A real Aerial Support Dropship Pilot would be flying just above ground level, right through the city. P.S. This might be bragging, but i can do that. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1043
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:30:00 -
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Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
43
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:32:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. No good Dropship pilot would be at MCC height anyway, unless they are evading swarms or forge gunners. A real Aerial Support Dropship Pilot would be flying just above ground level, right through the city. P.S. This might be bragging, but i can do that. I owe you a drink.
Again, my play-style is fitted more for the shock-and-awe factor, and there is no better feeling then ripping between two buildings five feet off the ground. Granted, I have a lot of respect for guys like you who can hover through a facility. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:38:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. No good Dropship pilot would be at MCC height anyway, unless they are evading swarms or forge gunners. A real Aerial Support Dropship Pilot would be flying just above ground level, right through the city. P.S. This might be bragging, but i can do that. I owe you a drink. Again, my play-style is fitted more for the shock-and-awe factor, and there is no better feeling then ripping between two buildings five feet off the ground. Granted, I have a lot of respect for guys like you who can hover through a facility. Your respect is appreciated |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
246
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:46:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about? They said the reduction would be about 1/3. It was more like 1/4th off,but then most came back in the form of turrets and hulls lol. What used to be a 1.5 million ISK dropship is now like... a 1.3 million isk dropship. Except they're still terrible so... That isn't even remotely funny. The impression I was given is that if Dropships were going to be crunchy they would be affordable. In a bad match it isn't hard for me to go negative isk running a forge suit but no where near that.
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill? Yeah. So much for putting one under the hood of my Ishukone Watch Saga. Here I thought the hate on heavies was bad. *gag*
Thanks for the info guys. Sometimes the nostalgia for past Dropship days happens and notions of training back into them come up. Hearing this helps me keep grounded. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3022
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Posted - 2013.08.11 06:16:00 -
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Cryius Li-Moody wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. well beside this comment being dumb since pilots who know for fact that this jibe is illogical I`ll just tag this as a fail comment, because at MCC height there are things to be hit by including all the AV, and for those embarrassing moments, the MCC itself. MCC eight is no where near out of range of AV. you don't take damage from the MCC unless they patched that. and AV hits from the ground to the dropship not because it is that high, just wait bomber will make everyone scream reduce height ceiling. but im waiting on amarrian tech to come out. How about we just ******* crucify the very idea of Bomber Dropships and then burn the remains in flaming nitric acid.
We have ENOUGH Dropship recolors already. Let's get some different air vehicles.
Oh, and maybe fix the WP gain for the current ones so you can actually get something for transporting and spawning people. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1043
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Posted - 2013.08.11 06:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Cryius Li-Moody wrote:they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. well beside this comment being dumb since pilots who know for fact that this jibe is illogical I`ll just tag this as a fail comment, because at MCC height there are things to be hit by including all the AV, and for those embarrassing moments, the MCC itself. MCC eight is no where near out of range of AV. you don't take damage from the MCC unless they patched that. and AV hits from the ground to the dropship not because it is that high, just wait bomber will make everyone scream reduce height ceiling. but im waiting on amarrian tech to come out. How about we just ******* crucify the very idea of Bomber Dropships and then burn the remains in flaming nitric acid. We have ENOUGH Dropship recolors already. Let's get some different air vehicles. Oh, and maybe fix the WP gain for the current ones so you can actually get something for transporting and spawning people.
Quit making sense. Who is the opposite of you? we need them designing vehicles. |
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