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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1035	Posted - 2013.08.11 01:33:00 - [1] - Quote over priced. That's right, I said it.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1035	Posted - 2013.08.11 01:41:00 - [2] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Well then learn to fly them so you don't go through them like firewood. If I drop 1,000,000 ISK into an aircraft so I can have decent countermeasures and Jovian Fusion Cores to be able to move the damn thing, I don't want to be sharing the airspace with some bozo who is just going to TRY to land on the top of a building, but will probably just end up doing a backflip before making love to the ground with his thrusters. To review: 1) Darn right they cost a lot, you need to pay for that power 2) Learn to fly. I can make an Assault ship last four matches if I am careful. 3) Last thing we need are more roof forge gunners and I think I forgot 4) There is already a limit on dropships that can occupy an airspace, I don't want a mechanical illiterate to be denying me that spot. You pay a lot to be 2-3 shot by forge guns :P
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1037	Posted - 2013.08.11 02:59:00 - [3] - Quote Its funny to me how even the cheap militia dropships are EASILY 2 shot by militia AV. What on earth is the point of those vehicles if they start off so underpowered you can't fly one for a solid 30 seconds and survive against free gear?
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1038	Posted - 2013.08.11 03:18:00 - [4] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: over priced. Reading the thread title for a sec I thought you had finally cracked Nguruthos. Whatever happened to the discount the Devs were talking about? Good topic to bring back up. +1 Aside are those Jovian engines the ones people have to unlock with the dead weight Vehicle Maneuvering skill? yepp. The same ones that got a huge nerf before uprising. They said the reduction would be about 1/3. It was more like 1/4th off,but then most came back in the form of turrets and hulls lol. What used to be a 1.5 million ISK dropship is now like... a 1.3 million isk dropship. Except they're still terrible so...
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1043	Posted - 2013.08.11 05:30:00 - [5] - Quote .
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1043	Posted - 2013.08.11 06:27:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cryius Li-Moody wrote: Shouper of BHD wrote: Cryius Li-Moody wrote: they take the least amount of skill to use thats why they cost so much,there is nothing to hit at MCC height. well beside this comment being dumb since pilots who know for fact that this jibe is illogical I`ll just tag this as a fail comment, because at MCC height there are things to be hit by including all the AV, and for those embarrassing moments, the MCC itself. MCC eight is no where near out of range of AV. you don't take damage from the MCC unless they patched that. and AV hits from the ground to the dropship not because it is that high, just wait bomber will make everyone scream reduce height ceiling. but im waiting on amarrian tech to come out. How about we just ******* crucify the very idea of Bomber Dropships and then burn the remains in flaming nitric acid. We have ENOUGH Dropship recolors already. Let's get some different air vehicles. Oh, and maybe fix the WP gain for the current ones so you can actually get something for transporting and spawning people. Quit making sense. Who is the opposite of you? we need them designing vehicles.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1043	Posted - 2013.08.11 08:45:00 - [7] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: I have not lost one of my lovely +25 Prometheus' from the challenge My attitude? I don't give a ****. I will slowly circle the objective dropping guy's off, offering a gun platform to support an offensive and fly that sucker 2 foot off the ground at top speed (no afterburners or overdrives, just built like a brick) Like its name suggests, Its bringing the fire Edit - my new favourite game is squishing snipers Any dropship is a good dropship, as long as its not getting shot at. Grats on playing a few games while being 100% ignored. Once they pull out anything over militia AV and have any intent to kill you, you'll change your tune.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1045	Posted - 2013.08.11 09:05:00 - [8] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: I have not lost one of my lovely +25 Prometheus' from the challenge My attitude? I don't give a ***. I will slowly circle the objective dropping guy's off, offering a gun platform to support an offensive and fly that sucker 2 foot off the ground at top speed (no afterburners or overdrives, just built like a brick) Like its name suggests, Its bringing the fire Edit - my new favourite game is squishing snipers Any dropship is a good dropship, as long as its not getting shot at. Grats on playing a few games while being 100% ignored. Once they pull out anything over militia AV and have any intent to kill you, you'll change your tune. You presume much? I'm often hit by AV, I either ignore it or circle round to boost depending on what caused it. If anything I seek* AV to get the blueberries out. What really confuses me is the flaylock kick that is outrageously exaggerated for the damage caused (how dare he scratch my paint!) I presume nothing. militia FG does 1300-1400 base damage. Assaults can hit 2200 and about 1.5x more if in the 'weak spot'. I've made every conceivable drop ship fit and know too well their durability. Even with an AB, logi ships are slow. Their vertical acceleration is terrible. There is no fitting for any ship which can tank more than 3 assault forge hits without being dead. There is no assault forge gunner is is bad enough to not take down a logi DS in a skirm/dom. If they got within 200-250 meters of you they could kill you faster than any defenses, reps or maneuver could save you. The math does not add up that you'd live if anyone tried to really kill you. Got lucky.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1045	Posted - 2013.08.11 09:06:00 - [9] - Quote Not to mention if you were hit by even militia swarms, and instead of instantly leaving you stuck around then you'd be even softer. This would let any FG 2 shot you easily. They must have been absent or deemed you a non-threat
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1047	Posted - 2013.08.11 09:38:00 - [10] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: [I presume nothing. militia FG does 1300-1400 base damage. Assaults can hit 2200 and about 1.5x more if in the 'weak spot'. I've made every conceivable drop ship fit and know too well their durability. Even with an AB, logi ships are slow. Their vertical acceleration is terrible. There is no fitting for any ship which can tank more than 3 assault forge hits without being dead. There is no assault forge gunner is is bad enough to not take down a logi DS in a skirm/dom. If they got within 200-250 meters of you they could kill you faster than any defenses, reps or maneuver could save you. The math does not add up that you'd live if anyone tried to really kill you. Got lucky. Yes the math isn't in the favour but it is a big (ok not really) battlefield and we're not the only players. All I can say is I wouldn't run a DS if we didn't have lots of active players who know what they're doing. If I take a forge hit I know my corp mates will prioritise to take it down if it means the built in CRU can stay near the objective to bring in more mercs. Also why should I go up? I don't need climb when the cover is ground based. If I climb wouldn't I be presenting myself as an easier target? We all need luck. If I'm going -¡-¡20-¦2 battles and no loss of DS then I don't mind being called lucky fg could die, spawn in and have you dead before anyone could react to them. Also ground cover works well sometimes but not when everyone has AV nades and you may not be sure where the forge blast came from. Might be going right over them.

Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1047	Posted - 2013.08.11 09:40:00 - [11] - Quote PS if you're that lucky somehow then I want to ride with you next week. I'll give it 3 games before an RDV knocks you outta the sky. And maybe 2 games before an assault forge will wreck any feeling of skill right out of you faster than you can do a thing.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1049	Posted - 2013.08.11 09:53:00 - [12] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: PS if you're that lucky somehow then I want to ride with you next week. I'll give it 3 games before an RDV knocks you outta the sky. And maybe 2 games before an assault forge will wreck any feeling of skill right out of you faster than you can do a thing. Lol me and skill Not saying it couldn't happen. Just that it won't. Sometimes people hit the lotto. You won't be so lucky with me as a witness. I'll put good money on that
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1049	Posted - 2013.08.11 10:03:00 - [13] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: PS if you're that lucky somehow then I want to ride with you next week. I'll give it 3 games before an RDV knocks you outta the sky. And maybe 2 games before an assault forge will wreck any feeling of skill right out of you faster than you can do a thing. Lol me and skill Not saying it couldn't happen. Just that it won't. Sometimes people hit the lotto. You won't be so lucky with me as a witness. I'll put good money on that Well I'd have to agree. Cus then the 'plan' would be to survive. and no plan survives contact with the enemy :P maybe that's my problem. I'm usually trying to survive when an RDV decloaks inside of me : /
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1073	Posted - 2013.08.12 03:58:00 - [14] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: no the turrets got the expensive sides of things, the modules were cheapened as well as DS and ADS, they will be cheapened (DS/ADS) again soon. personal speculation

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