Hey, I just wanted to know about how much SP you need to pump into a Scrambler rifle to make it useful. I've heard a lot of good things about it and I wanna try it out.

Also, opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play

opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play

Hey, I just wanted to know about how much SP you need to pump into a Scrambler rifle to make it useful. I've heard a lot of good things about it and I wanna try it out.

Also, opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play

I'm loving Amarr weapons atm, and the scram rifle is no exception. It really shines with-



... *Storms off in a hissyfit*

Its useful right off of the bat. Just learn to charge shot then control your follow up volleys and you will be able to tear most enemies apart.

However the issue you will likely face is overheating. I suggest going into a game to get to know the limitations of your weapon and then to develop a set of firing patterns that you get in the habbit of using.

I suggest skilling up to level 3 immeadiately for the CRD single shot rifle. I use that now and its a fantastic gun. But like all things Imperial Scrambler Rifle plus proficiency is essentially the best you can do.

So, as far as I understand it, the Scrambler has a Tac variant (With charge?) and an assault variant. As a Caldari Assault, what do you think I should pick? And does the scrambler overheat bonus actual work for the imperial?

So, as far as I understand it, the Scrambler has a Tac variant (With charge?) and an assault variant. As a Caldari Assault, what do you think I should pick? And does the scrambler overheat bonus actual work for the imperial?

The assault one. It does not overheat, no matter what you do with it. But the Imperial.....hell. A charged shot and i took down 400+ shield. But it does overheat really really fast (unless you have an amarr assault dropsuit)

It does not overheat, no matter what you do with it.

It can overheat I have done it several times. Constant firing will cause the thing to overheat.

It does overheat if u reload very quickly...happens to me all day ;)

??? uh? really? I swear i tried it with both (on different characters) with Amarr Assault and Caldari Logi and both didn't overheat after I unloaded the entire clip

I'm actually doing the same, just have lvl 3 so I can try the advanced. It seems like getting the proficiency would help tremendously, with 72 base damage it can drain shields in1-2 shots (+%20 =86 ) but suffers in putting the nail in the coffin (-%20 armor = 58 ). If you had the +%15 damage from the skill, it would offset the downside. I also hear that the Amarr suit helps by reducing heat buildup. You could also carry a side arm if your suit permits to switch after shields are down to get the kill, like the flaylock. So it depends on the suit you want to pair it with or fit on existing one.

Not the single shot variant oddly enough. Even with the 20% damage reduction VS armour you are still doing something like 60 damage per hit, and more if you have the time and peace of mind to charge shot your target.

I'm actually doing the same, just have lvl 3 so I can try the advanced. It seems like getting the proficiency would help tremendously, with 72 base damage it can drain shields in1-2 shots (+%20 =86 ) but suffers in putting the nail in the coffin (-%20 armor = 58 ). If you had the +%15 damage from the skill, it would offset the downside. I also hear that the Amarr suit helps by reducing heat buildup. You could also carry a side arm if your suit permits to switch after shields are down to get the kill, like the flaylock. So it depends on the suit you want to pair it with or fit on existing one.

yup. What i found really interesting is using it as a normal tac ar with an amarr pro. It is really a beast if you're fast with your fingers. Really.

yup. What i found really interesting is using it as a normal tac ar with an amarr pro. It is really a beast if you're fast with your fingers. Really.

By using it as a normal tac ar does that mean you are completely ignoring the charge feature? I know Adamance used to do that but I hope I have convinced him by now that if you are not using the charge nearly all the time you are handicapping yourself.

What I like to do with all amarrian weaponry, since those are the only weapons I use is stack twin Complex Damage mods, a Complex Armour Plate, an twin reppers.

With the set up like this I prefer to spend my time at the back of the fight taking pot shots at the enemy with the intent that my damage will either supress and deter the enemy from firing back, or that I will land enough hits to make it that much easier for my squaddie Aero to steal my kills....

I'm definitely here to steal your kills

But how on earth are you fitting two complex damage mods and a complex armor plate on you advanced suit? Or this must be for your protosuit? I know you have the Neo Amarr Assault Proto in the warbarge, but have you actually got past Amarr Assault 3?

You did. The effectiveness of my ScR game has increased two or threefold. That's the unique aspect of the gun and the most potent feature of it.

We aren't forgetting any tips are we?

Well, thank you all for all of your help. This sound like a very interesting gun. Just to sum things up:

- Standard ScR > Assault because of Charge feature and range
- Different firing mechanic than AR (Shot fires on release of R1)
- Sidearm required to chew through armor
- Heat build-up is a concern using the Standard ScR after charged shots
- Bad hipfire(?)

Pretty much, except

-Sidearm not really needed for armor, it still chews through armor decently.
-The stats say the all semi-auto scrambler rifles have the same heat build up, but I notice a slight difference and thing it may be recorded falsely on that stats page.
-Yes, hipfire is extremely bad

Hey, I just wanted to know about how much SP you need to pump into a Scrambler rifle to make it useful. I've heard a lot of good things about it and I wanna try it out.

Also, opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play

Proficiency 4 with complex dmg mode and it becomes very useful. Also, if you plan on using the standard SCR, you might want to use the Amarr Assault. You will be able to pump out more shots due to the overheat bonus.

The Amarr Assault doesn't affect the ScR or AScR.... weird huh?

Wah? It most definitely does.

'Nother Amarr enthusiast here (4.5 years Amarr FW in EVE, and began my FW career in PIE).

I've been using the charge shot on the standard variant rather sparingly. I'll have to try giving it more of a role, but it seems like 3 shots with it and I'm overheated, and I ain't the best marksman around (only terrible ~50% of the time). I usually just pepper the enemy with normal shots until I take my 50 damage punishment and wait for my gun to start cooperating again.

The Assault variant I used to like as well, but lately have just noticed that it has atrocious dispersion, even though it's shooting lasers. And the SMG has pinpoint accuracy when using the ironsights. Go figure. I was surprised when the standard variant jumped in my hands after a single shot. I guess that's all in the name of balance, though.

Got a good chance to play with it again today. I have found that headshots happen alot more often with when doing quick bursts. When shields are dropped, I start a charge and when charging, the heat goes down and I don't burn out as quick. The couple of seconds it takes to charge does remove a bit of heat so that you can fire almost continuously. I'm still getting used to where to place the charged shot on a moving target as I think the beam travels slower than I think. I'm definitely going to keep speccing into it. My next goal is the pro skill to make those shots that hit really count. The hip fire is great btw, as long as you fire as quickly as you can, it doesn't take much to drop lower than heavy suits.

Hey, I just wanted to know about how much SP you need to pump into a Scrambler rifle to make it useful. I've heard a lot of good things about it and I wanna try it out.

Also, opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play

Hey, I just wanted to know about how much SP you need to pump into a Scrambler rifle to make it useful. I've heard a lot of good things about it and I wanna try it out.

Also, opinions from Zdub, or Zat would be great, cause I actually know how you play