actually I have been testing it out and am of the opinion that if the main SKILL of the weapon reduced reload speed and then we also had the rapid reload we would actually have a nice weapon. Since it's biggest problem; biggest but not the only one; is that it takes too long to reload even with rapid reload.

The PlasmaCannon obviously needs a huge overhaul compared to the SL in order to make them comparable AV weapons.

Either:

1. Buff the Plasma Cannon damage since it is a single shot weapon with a slow reload.

or

2. Increase the clip size/RoF

And either way, the PC projectile needs to be faster and with less drop


I can already hear the whining and moaning about ppl running around with the Plasma Cannon w/ multiple rounds in clip shooting at enemies feet.

I am already able to run around with the PC, as it is, and use it as an Anti-Infantry weapon by bunny hopping and firing down at peoples feet.

It OHKs some of the lesser MLT suits and others can be finished off with a sidearm.

Yes, it's a cheap fa*gy tactic (among others... => the old Tac ARs / LLVs / Flaylocks / etc.) so I only do it when I'm cornered and its the only weapon on hand... Scouts honor. Although, its a great Anti-Heavy weapon with a little skill and luck.

HOWEVER, this "OPishness" seems fairly offset by it being one round then reload...

So, this why I think it should get a considerable dmg buff instead.

Again, The "OHK-ness" of it would be off set by it being a single round weapon with a slow reload

But if CCP can make it work with another method, have at it.

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Nerf the SLs because of their

1. crazy range and accuracy

2. random invisible missiles??

3. the prototype variants EXTREME damage against armor vehicles

Look, I know they're supposed to have a buff against armor and less against shield, but they do like 3.something-to-maybe 4k in a single volley against armor when dmg mods are equipped!

That seems like a bit much and armor vehicle drivers can attest to that.

My armor LAV barely survives a Proto swarm with a sliver of armor left, WHILE my active resistance hardeners are on...

I am OHK'd if they happen to the the dreaded "inviso-swarm" and I have no Idea they're on the way. Perhaps a "lock-on" warning could be put into vehicles?

less of a dmg buff against armor would be ideal

Or how about lowering the missile track accuracy so they can't do crazy crap like barrel rolls, loopy-loops, and 90 degree cuts around cover and so forth...

There's a bit of a disconnect between how the PLC was advertised and its in-game description (which everyone should go read...). In-game mentions nothing about being AV. It trades AV effectiveness with having an anti-infantry role which the Swarm never will (anymore )

OR we can do tiercide and get rid of all the PROTO ****.

Biggest problem IMO is that it barely improves through tiers. At standard, it's theoretically a more effective AV weapon than swarm launchers (more damage, don't have to be as exposed as long), but that goes downhill in advanced and prototype.

The PlasmaCannon obviously needs a huge overhaul compared to the SL in order to make them comparable AV weapons.

Either:

1. Buff the Plasma Cannon damage since it is a single shot weapon with a slow reload.

or

2. Increase the clip size/RoF

And either way, the PC projectile needs to be faster and with less drop


I can already hear the whining and moaning about ppl running around with the Plasma Cannon w/ multiple rounds in clip shooting at enemies feet.

I am already able to run around with the PC, as it is, and use it as an Anti-Infantry weapon by bunny hopping and firing down at peoples feet.

It OHKs some of the lesser MLT suits and others can be finished off with a sidearm.

Yes, it's a cheap fa*gy tactic (among others... => the old Tac ARs / LLVs / Flaylocks / etc.) so I only do it when I'm cornered and its the only weapon on hand... Scouts honor. Although, its a great Anti-Heavy weapon with a little skill and luck.

HOWEVER, this "OPishness" seems fairly offset by it being one round then reload...

So, this why I think it should get a considerable dmg buff instead.

Again, The "OHK-ness" of it would be off set by it being a single round weapon with a slow reload

But if CCP can make it work with another method, have at it.

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OR
===

Nerf the SLs because of their

1. crazy range and accuracy

2. random invisible missiles??

3. the prototype variants EXTREME damage against armor vehicles

Look, I know they're supposed to have a buff against armor and less against shield, but they do like 3.something-to-maybe 4k in a single volley against armor when dmg mods are equipped!

That seems like a bit much and armor vehicle drivers can attest to that.

My armor LAV barely survives a Proto swarm with a sliver of armor left, WHILE my active resistance hardeners are on...

I am OHK'd if they happen to the the dreaded "inviso-swarm" and I have no Idea they're on the way. Perhaps a "lock-on" warning could be put into vehicles?

less of a dmg buff against armor would be ideal

Or how about lowering the missile track accuracy so they can't do crazy crap like barrel rolls, loopy-loops, and 90 degree cuts around cover and so forth...

The PlasmaCannon obviously needs a huge overhaul compared to the SL in order to make them comparable AV weapons.

Either:

1. Buff the Plasma Cannon damage since it is a single shot weapon with a slow reload.

or

2. Increase the clip size/RoF

And either way, the PC projectile needs to be faster and with less drop


I can already hear the whining and moaning about ppl running around with the Plasma Cannon w/ multiple rounds in clip shooting at enemies feet.

I am already able to run around with the PC, as it is, and use it as an Anti-Infantry weapon by bunny hopping and firing down at peoples feet.

It OHKs some of the lesser MLT suits and others can be finished off with a sidearm.

Yes, it's a cheap fa*gy tactic (among others... => the old Tac ARs / LLVs / Flaylocks / etc.) so I only do it when I'm cornered and its the only weapon on hand... Scouts honor. Although, its a great Anti-Heavy weapon with a little skill and luck.

HOWEVER, this "OPishness" seems fairly offset by it being one round then reload...

So, this why I think it should get a considerable dmg buff instead.

Again, The "OHK-ness" of it would be off set by it being a single round weapon with a slow reload

But if CCP can make it work with another method, have at it.

===
OR
===

Nerf the SLs because of their

1. crazy range and accuracy

2. random invisible missiles??

3. the prototype variants EXTREME damage against armor vehicles

Look, I know they're supposed to have a buff against armor and less against shield, but they do like 3.something-to-maybe 4k in a single volley against armor when dmg mods are equipped!

That seems like a bit much and armor vehicle drivers can attest to that.

My armor LAV barely survives a Proto swarm with a sliver of armor left, WHILE my active resistance hardeners are on...

I am OHK'd if they happen to the the dreaded "inviso-swarm" and I have no Idea they're on the way. Perhaps a "lock-on" warning could be put into vehicles?

less of a dmg buff against armor would be ideal

Or how about lowering the missile track accuracy so they can't do crazy crap like barrel rolls, loopy-loops, and 90 degree cuts around cover and so forth...

Swarms can barely hit 3k damage against armor with 3 dmg mods and prof at 5. If they hit the critical spot it would get closer to 4k (I don't know the critical hit multiplier for swarms). I do agree they need a slight nerf though.

Also there should definitely be a lock on warning. I don't know why CCP hasn't added that in yet.

Why do people keep claiming that the Plasma Cannon is an AV weapon?

The description even says it's used for urban, close quarters combat.

If it gets a damage buff it'll be too good.

It's just that simple. With it's designated ability to smack around ground troops if it was able to destroy vehicles/installations it'd be the go to weapon for WP farming.

Don't try to make a weapon do something it isn't meant to and there won't be problems.

Plus, the Plasma Cannon is awesome fun being the way it is now and I don't want it getting OP because of the dense-headed people who can't learn the read weapon descriptions.

agreed what do you think about a DPS buff tho??? maybe a hair off reload time?? First time I saw someone else who liked the gun as it is and not because they don't want it on the field, love to hear more of your thoughts on it.

yeah, "barely hitting 3k against armor."

330x1.15x1.23x1.3x6=3641. rounding up from 3640.923
base x prof x mods x armor x missiles launched

lets see what a similar, tank mounted weapon does.

507x1.15x1.23x1.3x4=3729

You're doing less than 100 less than a PROTOTYPE large missile turret with 3 mods. your weapon homes in, and has better goddamned range(300 vs 250), and NO ****ING FALLOFF(guess what, large missiles have falloff.)

of course they need a nerf.

No they don't need a nerf. You need prototype tanks. Quit dodging the real issue here.