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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
207
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:01:00 -
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i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother |
Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
117
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:10:00 -
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It's over in the corner with PVE, and the player market. |
Zekain Kade
TeamPlayers EoN.
1424
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:12:00 -
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Mad Mav wrote:It's over in the corner with PVE, and the player market. We're in a round room .... |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1353
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:12:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother
Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you.
Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously?
Or in words you would probably understand: shut up. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1546
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:15:00 -
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Last we heard they said matchmaking system was to be deployed a little after 1.4. So mid-late September by current estimates. |
kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:15:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you. Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously? Or in words you would probably understand: shut up.
Told him to shut up because he has gotten irritated and sick of being stomped by vets day in and day out? What's next, are you gonna tell him it's working as intended?
To the OP: LOLWUTSMATCHMAKING? |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
929
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:15:00 -
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1.4 |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
207
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:19:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you.
Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously?
Or in words you would probably understand: shut up.
going to be completely honest; you sound like you're between 13 and 16 years of age. people over that age (generally) don't talk like this. strange isnt it? |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
363
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:22:00 -
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Meanwhile CCP makes the WP for exiting Battle Academy 400 WP, so that means we get about 10x more than usual noobs to pubstomp. It's all CCP's fault. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1354
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:22:00 -
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kiro of justice wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you. Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously? Or in words you would probably understand: shut up. Told him to shut up because he has gotten irritated and sick of being stomped by vets day in and day out? What's next, are you gonna tell him it's working as intended? To the OP: LOLWUTSMATCHMAKING?
I told him to shut up because he is acting like a child instead of handling his frustration like an adult. |
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
199
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:23:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother They are in 1.4. Hold your panties. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1354
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:24:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you.
Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously?
Or in words you would probably understand: shut up.
going to be completely honest; you sound like you're between 13 and 16 years of age. people over that age (generally) don't talk like this. strange isnt it?
Talk like what? Giving advise on how to be taken seriously? Or the part where I called you out for your immaturity?
Also, for the record, when you behave immaturely, you invite immaturity. If you want to have people respond with maturity, then act with maturity. Some free advise from someone that is much older than you think. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
111
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:27:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother
Yep, it's so predictable who's going to win a damn match now that I just use this game for target practice and lols like the murder taxi crowd.
Let me know when you are going to make an awesome shooter CCP instead of a spamfest frat drinking game. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
463
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:36:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yeah I'm starting to feel bad...this playerbase is only going to keep dropping |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1492
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:37:00 -
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Mad Mav wrote:It's over in the corner with PVE, and the player market.
QFT.
This stuff is way more important than "balancing".
People will play a flawed but interesting game. They will not play a flawless but boring game. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
234
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:43:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:kiro of justice wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you. Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously? Or in words you would probably understand: shut up. Told him to shut up because he has gotten irritated and sick of being stomped by vets day in and day out? What's next, are you gonna tell him it's working as intended? To the OP: LOLWUTSMATCHMAKING? I told him to shut up because he is acting like a child instead of handling his frustration like an adult. Telling someone to "shut up" couched in an insult is not the mature thing to do. If anything the response is very similar to the original post. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1357
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:45:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:kiro of justice wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you. Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously? Or in words you would probably understand: shut up. Told him to shut up because he has gotten irritated and sick of being stomped by vets day in and day out? What's next, are you gonna tell him it's working as intended? To the OP: LOLWUTSMATCHMAKING? I told him to shut up because he is acting like a child instead of handling his frustration like an adult. Telling someone to "shut up" couched in an insult is not the mature thing to do. If anything the response is very similar to the original post.
As I said, being immature invites immaturity. Never said I was mature, just that I would have been mature and actually paid attention if he were mature first. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
590
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:49:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you.
Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously?
Or in words you would probably understand: shut up.
going to be completely honest; you sound like you're between 13 and 16 years of age. people over that age (generally) don't talk like this. strange isnt it? Talk like what? Giving advise on how to be taken seriously? Or the part where I called you out for your immaturity? I think it was the part where you favoured talking down like a condescending prat over actually approaching the topic at hand.
Nothing personal, you're probably a fine guy, it's just that is truly how your first post reads. Preaching about maturity as a way to take an immature jab at someone kinda raises eyebrows. |
Vespasian Andendare
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:02:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Meanwhile CCP makes the WP for exiting Battle Academy 400 WP, so that means we get about 10x more than usual noobs to pubstomp. It's all CCP's fault. I'm sure that's going to have a positive effect on those players sticking with the game because that's :fun:.
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
213
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:03:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Talk like what? Giving advise on how to be taken seriously? Or the part where I called you out for your immaturity?
Also, for the record, when you behave immaturely, you invite immaturity. If you want to have people respond with maturity, then act with maturity. Some free advise from someone that is much older than you think.
it's more like, in general, the only people so fixated and obsessed with projecting "maturity" and criticizing a lack of it are those only just starting the grapple with it, again, 13-16 year olds. If you're over that age range and still hung up on the concept, you're in a bad way friend |
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
213
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:05:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:
Yep, it's so predictable who's going to win a damn match now that I just use this game for target practice and lols like the murder taxi crowd.
Let me know when you are going to make an awesome shooter CCP instead of a spamfest frat drinking game.
the awful part is that, when the game is evenly matched, it's INCREDIBLY engaging and intense. things MATTER, what you do MATTERS for the entire team. with one squad that throws the entire game off balance, since that little bit of communication means they can do almost anything they want across the map. damn shame.
if the matchmaking system is even halfway decent we'll see a LOT more of those "intense" games that end neck-and-neck |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
113
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:12:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:
Yep, it's so predictable who's going to win a damn match now that I just use this game for target practice and lols like the murder taxi crowd.
Let me know when you are going to make an awesome shooter CCP instead of a spamfest frat drinking game.
the awful part is that, when the game is evenly matched, it's INCREDIBLY engaging and intense. things MATTER, what you do MATTERS for the entire team. with one squad that throws the entire game off balance, since that little bit of communication means they can do almost anything they want across the map. damn shame. if the matchmaking system is even halfway decent we'll see a LOT more of those "intense" games that end neck-and-neck
Every once in a while I get one of these. The thing is that it is usually proto geared squads on either side. So everyone else that isn't proto geared yet gets carried mostly. I'd rather really have what I do matter. I usually can't because I see the proto guys just move back and forth blobbing at each other before you can get to a point or respawn. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7070
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:13:00 -
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Soon! (and no I am not allowed to put TM on things anymore) |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
596
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:42:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:
Yep, it's so predictable who's going to win a damn match now that I just use this game for target practice and lols like the murder taxi crowd.
Let me know when you are going to make an awesome shooter CCP instead of a spamfest frat drinking game.
the awful part is that, when the game is evenly matched, it's INCREDIBLY engaging and intense. things MATTER, what you do MATTERS for the entire team. with one squad that throws the entire game off balance, since that little bit of communication means they can do almost anything they want across the map. damn shame. if the matchmaking system is even halfway decent we'll see a LOT more of those "intense" games that end neck-and-neck Every once in a while I get one of these. The thing is that it is usually proto geared squads on either side. So everyone else that isn't proto geared yet gets carried mostly. I'd rather really have what I do matter. I usually can't because I see the proto guys just move back and forth blobbing at each other before you can get to a point or respawn. Hmm, since they have bonus damage over you and perhaps 1.5x the health... best approach to equalising the score is Flux Grenades and engaging out of their range. Laser Rifle, Forge Gun, MD+Flux with careful positioning, sniper rifles... the gap in health and damage between a high-SP frontliner and a low-SP one is too big to make engaging them on equal terms a tactically sound gambit. The difference in TTK is really not in your favour.
Unless you go Scrambler Pistols with damage mods. That puts your damage output significantly above the AR at short range, especially with headshots. Glass cannon so got to be cautious and aggressive with it.
But yeah, really wouldn't fancy being in a worse suit with less effective modules, less of them, and a worse AR. Not used an AR in st least a couple of months but it must be horrible having to engage the most common weapon and not being able to fight it within your niche advantage. Hadn't really considered that.
...Actually I seem to analyse everything through the question of 'how do you best fight ARs with it?'. Never had to ask it of an AR before. I suppose outranging with the Tac-AR is an obvious option. Yeah, that's probably it. If fighting Protosuits with ARs switch to Tac so you can try and press your own advantage against them.
Wait, do you use ARs? I just kind of assumed because everyone does. |
CrotchGrab 360
187.
187
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:00:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother Yelling and stomping your feet like a petulent child means you are probably an immature kid, so no one will listen to you. Perhaps you should act like an adult to be taken seriously? Or in words you would probably understand: shut up.
somebody asks about something which is standard in most FPS games then gets told to shut up
this is why we can't have nice things. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
897
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:06:00 -
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Just pick a sniper rifle, red-line Snipe and farm Protobears ...Just killing 1 or 2 of them will give you a nice ISK reward. I call it ;
- Hunting Pubstompers. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:38:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother game population is too low at this point.
They can artificially bump up numbers with SP bonus weeks but it still drops back down to the 4,500 flat line. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
153
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:49:00 -
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So I made a new character to try out the new domination academy matches.
It started off just me and one legitimate (I think) noobie blue dot in the war barge with me, waiting for the battle to kick off. We stood staring at the screen and saw it was just us two vs 3 enemies. Not going to be the most exciting game I thought. Boy was I wrong.
As the game got going more and more people joined in. It started with us hacking the objective, we kept it for a while then the enemy started to build in number and took it from us.
We managed to establish a battlefront about 50-60 meters away from the objective and we fought hard.
Militia assault rifles everywhere, and everyone had low health skills as well so the match was really fair.
We took the letter a few times throughout the match but in the end the enemy team were victorious. We were just below halfway through the enemy MCC's armour as the game ended.
MY POINT about all of this is, I came away with 2000 wp and I wasnt the only one. On both teams there were 4 or 5 people on each side with around 1500+ WP. With the vast majority of the remaining players earning way over the '400' wp mark.
I think CCP needs to reconsider what they are doing with the academy. There is a ton of room for improvement. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
463
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:14:00 -
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A matchmaking system is virtually impossible because there are too many variables. KDR, SP levels, squads, specializations, then theres the fact of how people play, a redline sniper will have a high KDR same with sniper tanks, where as a dedicated logi will have a low KDR but is very valuable, squad from a corp that works together is way better than a squad of randoms who got together in local or in the warbarge. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
312
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:16:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother pve will save us from the trash that is pvp. once pve comes 3/4 of this community wont give a damn about worthless competitive play. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7097
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:29:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:A matchmaking system is virtually impossible because there are too many variables. KDR, SP levels, squads, specializations, then theres the fact of how people play, a redline sniper will have a high KDR same with sniper tanks, where as a dedicated logi will have a low KDR but is very valuable, squad from a corp that works together is way better than a squad of randoms who got together in local or in the warbarge.
You're thinking far too inside the box there, you can remove most of those stats and still come up with a decent match making system. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
689
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
You're thinking far too inside the box there, you can remove most of those stats and still come up with a decent match making system.
Thats why we had one at "release" right?
Especially since many people were expressing concerns about it long before hand.
Also, I laugh heartily at the idea that CCP is going to use their intuition to develop matchmaking. I foresee 10 minute waits before you get a message that a game could not be found. Followed shortly by dual stacked squads finding ways to mess with the MM and get faced with a team of scrubs. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
463
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:39:00 -
[33] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:A matchmaking system is virtually impossible because there are too many variables. KDR, SP levels, squads, specializations, then theres the fact of how people play, a redline sniper will have a high KDR same with sniper tanks, where as a dedicated logi will have a low KDR but is very valuable, squad from a corp that works together is way better than a squad of randoms who got together in local or in the warbarge. You're thinking far too inside the box there, you can remove most of those stats and still come up with a decent match making system. Sorry but you're being niave. No game has ever created an ideal system. Until CCP adds content, gamemodes, and makes this game fun to play rather than just a grindfest. Dust won't have the numbers to split up the player base in a similar manner to what EVE does, which would be ideal for dust as well. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
122
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:43:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:So I made a new character to try out the new domination academy matches.
It started off just me and one legitimate (I think) noobie blue dot in the war barge with me, waiting for the battle to kick off. We stood staring at the screen and saw it was just us two vs 3 enemies. Not going to be the most exciting game I thought. Boy was I wrong.
As the game got going more and more people joined in. It started with us hacking the objective, we kept it for a while then the enemy started to build in number and took it from us.
We managed to establish a battlefront about 50-60 meters away from the objective and we fought hard.
Militia assault rifles everywhere, and everyone had low health skills as well so the match was really fair.
We took the letter a few times throughout the match but in the end the enemy team were victorious. We were just below halfway through the enemy MCC's armour as the game ended.
MY POINT about all of this is, I came away with 2000 wp and I wasnt the only one. On both teams there were 4 or 5 people on each side with around 1500+ WP. With the vast majority of the remaining players earning way over the '400' wp mark.
I think CCP needs to reconsider what they are doing with the academy. There is a ton of room for improvement.
I was just wondering. Because of 2x SP earnings this week does that mean that this week it only takes 200 WP to get out of the academy? lol |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7098
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:44:00 -
[35] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:A matchmaking system is virtually impossible because there are too many variables. KDR, SP levels, squads, specializations, then theres the fact of how people play, a redline sniper will have a high KDR same with sniper tanks, where as a dedicated logi will have a low KDR but is very valuable, squad from a corp that works together is way better than a squad of randoms who got together in local or in the warbarge. You're thinking far too inside the box there, you can remove most of those stats and still come up with a decent match making system. Sorry but you're being niave. No game has ever created an ideal system. Until CCP adds content, gamemodes, and makes this game fun to play rather than just a grindfest. Dust won't have the numbers to split up the player base in a similar manner to what EVE does, which would be ideal for dust as well.
I stated nothing about perfection. Don't assume such. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
463
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:54:00 -
[36] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:A matchmaking system is virtually impossible because there are too many variables. KDR, SP levels, squads, specializations, then theres the fact of how people play, a redline sniper will have a high KDR same with sniper tanks, where as a dedicated logi will have a low KDR but is very valuable, squad from a corp that works together is way better than a squad of randoms who got together in local or in the warbarge. You're thinking far too inside the box there, you can remove most of those stats and still come up with a decent match making system. Sorry but you're being niave. No game has ever created an ideal system. Until CCP adds content, gamemodes, and makes this game fun to play rather than just a grindfest. Dust won't have the numbers to split up the player base in a similar manner to what EVE does, which would be ideal for dust as well. I stated nothing about perfection. Don't assume such. Neither did I. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
309
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:56:00 -
[37] - Quote
So yeah about matchmaking....
Nerf it!
I need a respec. |
Preacher Death 2
Westmensters
26
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:59:00 -
[38] - Quote
Matchmaking would be a waste of development time with only a few thousand people playing at one time. |
Preacher Death 2
Westmensters
26
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:01:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother pve will save us from the trash that is pvp. once pve comes 3/4 of this community wont give a damn about worthless competitive play. PvE will most likely be tied into planetary conquest. No territory, no drone farming. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
200
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:18:00 -
[40] - Quote
How will match making work? and what criteria will be used? I thought this was new Eden? Where you adapt or die lol. The player base is to small for that. High SP folks will find a way to circumvent the system. |
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
218
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
easy matchmaking;
1) if you are on a squad, the total allocated sp of your squad is tallied as you start a match 2) you are pitted against another squad of equal size and relatively equal total SP 3) this continues until, at most, half of each team is evenly matched squads 4) fill the remaining spots with randoms regardless of SP
this would solve about 90% of the "bad games" out there, it would make redlining almost impossible, and keep almost all games evenly matched and engaging.
the only exception would be fluke cases like multiple 12mil sp proto randoms getting assigned to one team and blueberry randoms to the other. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
221
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:55:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mad Mav wrote:It's over in the corner with PVE, and the player market.
Actually it's planned for end of 2013 / beginning of 2014. And I will be there to look at all the people when they finally notice that they don't get stomped because their enemies have better gear, but because their enemies work together. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:10:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Last we heard they said matchmaking system was to be deployed a little after 1.4. So mid-late September by current estimates.
Right about when GTA 5 is released...
Hmm...
I am thinking mid September for matchmaking is too little too late. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:09:00 -
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added a "bad game" ticker to the first post i'm predicting a 75% failure rate of the matchmaking system |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:15:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1160269#post1160269
matchmaking is already in the game.
basically your complains boil down to "OMG NERF TEAMWORK CCP!!!!"
read that explaination and stop raging over something you clearly dont understand.
CCPs current matchmaking is FAR supirior to the one you suggested. the only factor making it seem bad is your hatred of teamwork and the lack of total player numbers that cant be overcome with ANY matchmaking system |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:20:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1160269#post1160269
matchmaking is already in the game.
basically your complains boil down to "OMG NERF TEAMWORK CCP!!!!"
read that explaination and stop raging over something you clearly dont understand.
CCPs current matchmaking is FAR supirior to the one you suggested. the only factor making it seem bad is your hatred of teamwork and the lack of total player numbers that cant be overcome with ANY matchmaking system
the fact remains; most games end up being steamrolls. any almost every single game with a full squad on either team ends up being incredibly boring for both sides. if the current system is "far superior", why is it so terrible? |
Chances Ghost
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:24:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1160269#post1160269
matchmaking is already in the game.
basically your complains boil down to "OMG NERF TEAMWORK CCP!!!!"
read that explaination and stop raging over something you clearly dont understand.
CCPs current matchmaking is FAR supirior to the one you suggested. the only factor making it seem bad is your hatred of teamwork and the lack of total player numbers that cant be overcome with ANY matchmaking system the fact remains; most games end up being steamrolls. any almost every single game with a full squad on either team ends up being incredibly boring for both sides. if the current system is "far superior", why is it so terrible?
its supiror because the teams ARE balanced as far as ELO ratings go (very decent as a matchmaking system and the ideal system for dust as it stands right now)
the problem YOUR facing like i said is your getting beat by teamwork, not any matchmaking system.
your failing because you arnt bringing teamwork into the equasion and are getting stomped by even the slightest amount of co-ordinated oposition.
the current matchmaking ensures the the team with the most teamwork wins, wich is AWESOME because it removes gear and individual skill from the equasion and ensures that the best TEAM wins.
what you want is to change that to the team with the best INDIVIDUAL players wins, wich would force emphasis back on gear/sp and would actually remove the already strained usefullness of new players essentially killing the game
my question to every single person who has a "bad" experiance with matchmaking is, were you in a full squad with comms?
chances are the answer to that question is a resounding "no" essentially rendering your experiances with matchmaking worthless as your experiances lack a control group. this is just confirmation biased at its finest.
any futher questions? |
GET ATMESON
Robbing The Hood
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:41:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother
EDIT; easy matchmaking;
1) if you are on a squad, the total allocated sp of your squad is tallied as you start a match 2) you are pitted against another squad of equal size and relatively equal total SP 3) this continues until, at most, half of each team is evenly matched squads 4) fill the remaining spots with randoms regardless of SP
this would solve about 90% of the "bad games" out there, it would make redlining almost impossible, and keep almost all games evenly matched and engaging.
the only exception would be fluke cases like multiple 12mil sp proto randoms getting assigned to one team and blueberry randoms to the other.
UPDATE; i'm gong to tally how many games i've been in which were 4 or 5 caps caused by proto squads. i am also including games that were consistently 4 or 5 caps for either side, which also indicates bad matchmaking, even if there are no proto squads 8/9/13: 3 of 4
YES THAT WILL WORK. Not. Ill play solo and "proto pubstomp" just to show you this is a bad idea. Ill sync with my players. Your groups SP will be my total SP so ill just be in your matchs anyways.
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:49:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:i don't know about anyone else, but i'm completely fed up with pubstomps. they suck to play against (redlined and farmed) and they suck to play on (all there is to do is redline camp)
so where the hell is the matchmaking? at least put proto pubstomps against other proto pubstomps so they can shoot at eachother
EDIT; easy matchmaking;
1) if you are on a squad, the total allocated sp of your squad is tallied as you start a match 2) you are pitted against another squad of equal size and relatively equal total SP 3) this continues until, at most, half of each team is evenly matched squads 4) fill the remaining spots with randoms regardless of SP
this would solve about 90% of the "bad games" out there, it would make redlining almost impossible, and keep almost all games evenly matched and engaging.
the only exception would be fluke cases like multiple 12mil sp proto randoms getting assigned to one team and blueberry randoms to the other.
UPDATE; i'm gong to tally how many games i've been in which were 4 or 5 caps caused by proto squads. i am also including games that were consistently 4 or 5 caps for either side, which also indicates bad matchmaking, even if there are no proto squads 8/9/13: 3 of 4 YES THAT WILL WORK. Not. Ill play solo and "proto pubstomp" just to show you this is a bad idea. Ill sync with my players. Your groups SP will be my total SP so ill just be in your matchs anyways.
not to mention that even with his system it will still be "te team with the most co-operation wins" and hell scream yet again that CCP diddnt do it right and matchmaking is broken as he runs around solo wondering why an entire squad of guys keeps gunning him down (and every other solo that seems to run headlong into the co-ordinated squad) |
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