Getting rid of the SP cap will only serve to hurt the game.

Less sales for CCP

Impossible for people who can't play 24/7 to be even remotely relevant

Drastically reduces the life of the game

Creates an insurmountable gap even worse than what we have now in terms of SP

Basically the only thing removing the SP cap would do is sate the ego's of a few, while basically ruining the rest of the game and removing any need to make purchases in this free to play game, thusly killing it outright.

We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P

Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.

Unable to understand simple things or take legitimate advice from others, CCP just keeps making the wrong decisions on developing Dust 514. Some may find this familiar:



This right here, is by far the most extraordinary thing CCP has done and it's proof that they don't know how properly make a FPS for the PS3 crowd. With 1 year in Beta and several months passed after release, I expect to see similar actions to be taken in the near future if CCP doesn't improve.




P.S. Don't expect CCP to admit their failures and do something about it.

CCP has just proven to be This type of Administrator when it comes to the academy

No they don't, they make the most profitable decisions, they're a company you american idiot.

Die, not nessecarily but it will be 1-2k peak but it wwill slow down then the game can start to heal

WE SAID INCREASE THE SP!!!! please complain CCP miight fix the issue.

How long have you been playing online games? I'm not calling you stupid or anything but I have played them since the mid 90's and I can promise you one thing: when a game dies it doesn't come back to life. It only dies more, and if it does get any new players it isnt enough to make a noticeable difference.

CCP has made too many mistakes for Dust to "thrive". The most they can hope for is that Dust "survives", and given the competition it will be facing soon, it won't. In 1 years time you will not find anyone that actively plays this game unless you come to this forum specifically.

Meh, I'd point at EVE to counter your point but I think that Dust might get repackaged and renamed before it's put on PS4 (If CCP wants people to buy it.)

That median of 100wp doesn't seem right IMO...

I made a new character to try this out and I got 450wp in my first game. This is taking into account the fact that this was with the 8v8 setting.

So I can only assume in the larger battles people will get way more than 400 WP. Its not like I got a really high score because ive played dust a while. Other noobs were getting 300-600wp a game in the 8v8 setting.

CCP what made you decide to do this? Really lol?

We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P

Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.

We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P

Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.

I dunno how does !@#holes who constantly roll alts to pwn noobs in BA justified either? The current system testing means they're out of the BA in one fight most of the time. Making BA much longer helps these jerks much more than the rookies. There is a theory in Eve and its going to hold true here, anything designed to purposely help new or smaller groups of players is going to ultimately massively benefit the veteran and larger groups of players more so.

Between the two empty character slots and how long it took a good player to burn though the 20k wp with the 10 hour cool down you can do this near endlessly.

Currently there are three things players use to progress:
Actual Skill
Skill Level
Gear

BA barely provides enough training in Gear, or Skill Levels and in my honest opinion NEVER should be used as such. We can do this by well eliminating the use of Basic, Advanced, Prototype gear in BA. This will make the noob gankers less effective as well since they don't have access to the ability to widen the gap massively between themselves and new players, and lets face it, there is nearly absolutely to hand hold a player into increasing actual skill without pitting them against better players. The tutorials can only arm that player with the knowledge they need to improve but the player will have to do the improving himself in the wild, this is not something you can gain entirely by sitting at a desk writing about it.

BA should be used ultimately as an evaluation period for placement inside the matchmaking system Similar to the 5 placement fights Star Craft II uses. It shouldn't be used as a means of teaching players basics of the game, it should be a place of applying what they have been taught so far for the first time.

We need better NPE overall and something before the Academy, and a means of flagging an entire account of doing the BA before and skipping over it entirely so they would have to make new PSN alts to troll players at least.

As for the experiment and the sorts CCP needs to verify their theories, yes its bad to do this but then again the first BA was also an experiment and was supposed to be temporary. As for what next week's experiment is I don't know but this is all stuff to that can get done while waiting for the new stuff to make it in planned patch soon.

And here we go with the braindead i dont think before i respond response.

Less sales is utter BS, PS2 sells plenty of xp boosters despite having no cap because people still pay money if reasonably priced to accelerate the curve. CCP would simply need to adjust the pricing. Moreover that forces CCP to actually look at better ways to make money rather than being perpetually lazy about everything.

Um playing 24/7 and the insurmountable gap lines both assume that SP is linear and that every added SP makes you more powerful then the prior amount of SP. The fact is the growth curve reaches a limit at which point increased gains are met with diminished gains in power since there is an actual cap to Power (LEVEL 5).

Dramatically reduces life? As opposed to now? Get real here it takes over 250M SP to cap the ENTIRE skill tree and it isnt even complete. It also implicates that the only thing worth doing in this game is gaining SP, which is a sad statement of the reality of this game but again CCP's fault that they havent created content worth playing over acquiring SP and even when that content exists players are still going to want to be able to grind enough SP to be at an equal or comparably equal power level as vets during instances of PVP.

Removing the Cap wont save the game but it will do far more to benefit this game. The fact that CCP has to create a artificial restraint on players in order to make money says everything about the quality and longevity of this game, in which case CCP has a far bigger issue then what removing the cap will do.

We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P

Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.

Unable to understand simple things or take legitimate advice from others, CCP just keeps making the wrong decisions on developing Dust 514. Some may find this familiar:



This right here, is by far the most extraordinary thing CCP has done and it's proof that they don't know how properly make a FPS for the PS3 crowd. With 1 year in Beta and several months passed after release, I expect to see similar actions to be taken in the near future if CCP doesn't improve.




P.S. Don't expect CCP to admit their failures and do something about it.

Duh you made that. You've played before so you went on a slaughtering spree on some noobs who don't know how to play it yet as you do.

Really, what is the point you're making? Think before you post

We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P

Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.

From 20k to 400 War Points. That is a pretty big pendulum swing IMO.

The could have just dropped it down to 10k and reevaluated from there. Massive change is never the answer when you are trying to "fine-tune" something. And something tells me the massive exodus of new players probably had little to do with how much time they spent in Academy. Especially when you could still be invited to standard matches via friends who graduated already.

Some wacky theories here.

Thing is the 'wall slam' experienced at 20k is exactly the same wall 'slam experienced' at amount of wall slam at 400 WP or (or 0 WP) even 10 million SP going into PC the first time.