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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.07 03:20:00 -
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AP Grasshopper wrote:Where are those Drones CCP? The same place they put procedurally generated persistent planets:
Back in the bowl. |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
214
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P
Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.
Yes because throwing them in with the big boys sooner is really gunna keep them playing longer |
SteelDark Knight
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
76
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.
I think there might be other reasons players are quitting during that period. |
First Prophet
Valor Company Incorporated
789
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:10:00 -
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DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:Why do adult like to pick on children alot We're jealous of their youth. |
Nack Jicholson
DUST University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:20:00 -
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@Game Designer People
Hi, yeah, uhmmmm, I get the importance of metrics and all...but any noob that has played this game for a week could have told you how idiotic this new 400 point academy idea is.
Whoever signed off on this idea should be fired, that person is creative poison. OMG, I can't believe I paid you idiots money...I am stupid.
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kil239
Stoned Kloned Killers
0
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:20:00 -
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Lets face it the game Suck ccp Suck the dev Suck |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.07 04:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:Where are those Drones CCP? The same place they put procedurally generated persistent planets: Back in the bowl.
Nope
PVE is on the shelf for safe keeping
Procedurally generated persistent planets have been thrown on the floor due to various limitations. If they ever decide to do this again they will have to start on it from scrap. |
gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:Where are those Drones CCP? The same place they put procedurally generated persistent planets: Back in the bowl. Procedurally generated persistent planets have been thrown on the floor due to various limitations. If they ever decide to do this again they will have to start on it from scrap.
But that was one of the biggest Features, that many Hyped up up to release.
Poor show. |
Cobra CLUTCH79
OVERLORDS OF THE ONI SERPENT
25
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote:Why do adult like to pick on children alot Because we secretly hate them...... because children are idiots |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
887
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:53:00 -
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I don't know about that.. my kids are VERY street-wise ..you won't fool them easily. I say CCP is more like a bunch of Monk.....That like big yellow Banan......You can't ban me if didn't said it. |
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steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1040
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:59:00 -
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This is just massive evidence that they don't play their own game. End the dust project before it kills your studio. I really hope the WoD team is in fair better shape |
CrotchGrab 360
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Apparently killing 8 newberries in starter fits qualifies you for joining all the proto users. I really do like CCP and want to support them, but sure enough they always seem to do something that makes no sense. Even if you absolutely suck, you can get 400 points on accident after a day or two of playing, and that's if you are really really bad.
It's like a hot girlfriend who is so ******* stupid you can't stand it and just think about getting her in bed later whilst she asks you why the sky is blue. |
CrotchGrab 360
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:[quote=SoTah Pawp][quote=Iron Wolf Saber]. Should there be a PC Battle Academy as well?
I now like what you have brought to this thread. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:44:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P
Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period. This a joke? So CCP estimates people will quit less when they go 0/15 like 3 people do every game? Also - you're now letting in even bigger scrubs into our games - so you're hurting vets enjoyment too. Just - wow.
You're speaking to a CCP membership SoTa you really think IWS has the logic to use reading comprehension to understand what you just typed? Just shhh.. No point in getting frustrated. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
2394
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:45:00 -
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Honestly, what the ****? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4019
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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P
Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period.
wow....just WOW ur actually defending this bs?
so a newbie is out the academy in 3-5 games. some might be out in 1 and u defending ccp **** logic that ppl would come to terms with DUST and have any decent SP to compete..........G T F O....srsly gotta be THE biggest CCP ball licker ive ever seen and ppl wonder why we think the CPM is a joke and why lolDUST is a joke atm
continue ignoring players feedback CCP ur on a roll! |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
316
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Posted - 2013.08.07 12:36:00 -
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All of this frustration stems from one single and OBVIOUS fact. New players who are good are being restrained from reaching a level playing field against the veteran players
Either
a) Gear Restrict Pubs based on a net metagear level (dumb, why restrict in sandbox games)
b} GET RID OF THE SP CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not Rocket Science new players deal with this frustration in all FPS some do well in their balance of starting weaponry that it isnt a disadvanatage (PS2, KZ) others allow you to progress quickly enough to overcome the deficit. If new players could grind out the initial SP to make a decent fitting there wouldnt be this issue.
Furthermore getting rid of the cap diminishes or eliminates so many other issues for CCP, (AFK, Respec requests) It is simply the single best and easiest option that CCP can do. Its as simple as turning off the cap which wont suck up dev resources and they dont have to WASTE TIME tweaking all this crap.
GET RID OF THE CAP, PROBLEM SOLVED. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
841
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:22:00 -
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Getting rid of the SP cap and leaving the 2x SP for WP generation in place for the foreseeable future would be a start.
I'm at nearly 20 million SP. If I get 10 million more SP in the next few months it won't make me much better at all in regards to what I can bring to the fight one clone at a time.
A person with 2 million SP adding 10 million SP over the next few months is exponentially better.
I've had some people counter that, but I've never been impressed with any reasoning against it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5663
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:27:00 -
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Getting rid of the SP cap will only serve to hurt the game.
Less sales for CCP
Impossible for people who can't play 24/7 to be even remotely relevant
Drastically reduces the life of the game
Creates an insurmountable gap even worse than what we have now in terms of SP
Basically the only thing removing the SP cap would do is sate the ego's of a few, while basically ruining the rest of the game and removing any need to make purchases in this free to play game, thusly killing it outright. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
430
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:43:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Getting rid of the SP cap and leaving the 2x SP for WP generation in place for the foreseeable future would be a start.
I'm at nearly 20 million SP.
If I get 10 million more SP in the next few months it won't make me much better at all in regards to what I can bring to the fight one clone at a time.
A person with 2 million SP adding 10 million SP over the next few months is exponentially better.
I've had some people counter that, but I've never been impressed with any reasoning against it.
Here's a discussion on the WP/SP that is getting really interesting
The Cap should stay for those with more than 10 million SP but should be eliminated if they have less than 10 million. |
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Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:It's funny how they say the "average" player earns 100 WP in a match.
Maybe if they stopped counting AFK players they might get a better metric.
400 points....in Domination....the worst mode for a new player not in a squad to get used to....
I just...I can't even....my head.....it hurts....
and yet the afk'ers would have us believe that their afking is boosting numbers for the betterment of the game ^_^ |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
846
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:It's funny how they say the "average" player earns 100 WP in a match.
Maybe if they stopped counting AFK players they might get a better metric.
400 points....in Domination....the worst mode for a new player not in a squad to get used to....
I just...I can't even....my head.....it hurts.... and yet the afk'ers would have us believe that their afking is boosting numbers for the betterment of the game ^_^
We are here to help the game! |
Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
98
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Is CCP ******** or what? |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
424
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:48:00 -
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Only a child would make this topic. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3514
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:48:00 -
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/looks at this thread
/facepalms |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
317
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Getting rid of the SP cap will only serve to hurt the game.
Less sales for CCP
Impossible for people who can't play 24/7 to be even remotely relevant
Drastically reduces the life of the game
Creates an insurmountable gap even worse than what we have now in terms of SP
Basically the only thing removing the SP cap would do is sate the ego's of a few, while basically ruining the rest of the game and removing any need to make purchases in this free to play game, thusly killing it outright.
And here we go with the braindead i dont think before i respond response.
Less sales is utter BS, PS2 sells plenty of xp boosters despite having no cap because people still pay money if reasonably priced to accelerate the curve. CCP would simply need to adjust the pricing. Moreover that forces CCP to actually look at better ways to make money rather than being perpetually lazy about everything.
Um playing 24/7 and the insurmountable gap lines both assume that SP is linear and that every added SP makes you more powerful then the prior amount of SP. The fact is the growth curve reaches a limit at which point increased gains are met with diminished gains in power since there is an actual cap to Power (LEVEL 5).
Dramatically reduces life? As opposed to now? Get real here it takes over 250M SP to cap the ENTIRE skill tree and it isnt even complete. It also implicates that the only thing worth doing in this game is gaining SP, which is a sad statement of the reality of this game but again CCP's fault that they havent created content worth playing over acquiring SP and even when that content exists players are still going to want to be able to grind enough SP to be at an equal or comparably equal power level as vets during instances of PVP.
Removing the Cap wont save the game but it will do far more to benefit this game. The fact that CCP has to create a artificial restraint on players in order to make money says everything about the quality and longevity of this game, in which case CCP has a far bigger issue then what removing the cap will do. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1097
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:20:00 -
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In this thread, the community expresses discontent with a change while the representative of the community claims we just don't understand. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
319
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:44:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:In this thread, the community expresses discontent with a change while the representative of the community claims we just don't understand.
IWS isnt a representattive of the community why would anyone ever think that, he's always been a CCP apoligist and mouthpiece. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
151
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Apparently killing 8 newberries in starter fits qualifies you for joining all the proto users. I really do like CCP and want to support them, but sure enough they always seem to do something that makes no sense. Even if you absolutely suck, you can get 400 points on accident after a day or two of playing, and that's if you are really really bad.
I made a new character to try this out and I got 450wp in my first game. This is taking into account the fact that this was with the 8v8 setting.
So I can only assume in the larger battles people will get way more than 400 WP. Its not like I got a really high score because ive played dust a while. Other noobs were getting 300-600wp a game in the 8v8 setting.
CCP what made you decide to do this? Really lol? |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1526
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:52:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:IWS isnt a representattive of the community why would anyone ever think that
QFT |
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