All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

i use mass drivers because i enjoy them an have since i first got my hands on them when I first joined Dust, i won't stop using them ever, not for any assault fanboy who doesn't know the meaning of tactics.

the thing that'll separate you from them is if you use your gear through it's ups and downs and not just when it's powerful

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Sinboto-the mass driving true blood Minja

But you love how your assault rifle out performs every gun in the game right? Stop crying. Seriously

You use the noob tube because you are a noob and you cant aim,,,there is no tactics involved into using mass drivers.Before the mass driver buff players were talking about area denial wepon,was making them feel betterThere is a bug where if you spam the noob tube in front of your enemy the their hits wont register,it's pretty sad

I don't even have assault rifle trained to 1...

I like my mass driver, but now that I don't have to try my absolute best to get kills it just feels as cheap as the flaylock just was.

You use the noob tube because you are a noob and you cant aim,,,there is no tactics involved into using mass drivers.Before the mass driver buff players were talking about area denial wepon,was making them feel betterThere is a bug where if you spam the noob tube in front of your enemy the their hits wont register,it's pretty sad

By the way, what's with the uprising of MD now?

Oh lord I got raped yesterday with Freedom MD.

Ok, i sympathisze somewhat for the topic at hand, but no. The mass driver is easy, very easy. You shoot grenades lol. And yes im specces into the boundless assault and that thing is dirty. The only skill is learning how to arc your shot at long range.

So you want it nerfed the way it was? Barely usable. Please gtfo. When will ccp grow a fking pair and stop giving in to these nerf threads just because people suck.

I trained my assault rifle to level 4 because everything will get nerfed. I mean everything. Nova knife, forge gun, grenades, av gear. Lavs. Just about everything non assault rifle or assault suit will get nerfed because if it kills a assault rifle user its OP. Even if it's a mele.

You sound so dumb. Not even worth pointing out how stupid and ignorant you sound. I feel bad for who ever deals with you in real life. pathetic.

This is nonsense. Pick up a mass driver and go slaughter people. I bet you can't do it.

Go try a mass driver and then come back and call it a noob tube. Try to fight some really good shield tanks so you can see how much of a noob tube it is.

And your hits don't register? My grenades used to literally just disappear.

And now its working properly and people are crying FOTM, and that makes someone who's spent lots of time and SP with this weapon look like "noob-tubing spammers".

You use the noob tube because you are a noob and you cant aim,,,there is no tactics involved into using mass drivers.Before the mass driver buff players were talking about area denial wepon,was making them feel betterThere is a bug where if you spam the noob tube in front of your enemy the their hits wont register,it's pretty sad

But you love how your assault rifle out performs every gun in the game right? Stop crying. Seriously

This isn't a nerf thread, smartass. I'm just making a statement to see if any other mass driver users feel the same way. Don't derail it into a nerf thread, please.



You need to loosen up, bro. Seriously what the hell is wrong with you?

Imo there op, there for suppressing, in a hall way or cluttered place they should win but in an open field at mid range my ar should win. How come a suppressing weapon assaulted me in the open field today and killed me I ask ( op)?...oh yea. When the mass drivers are overpowering ar's out on open ground there's a problem.

p.s. Seems as if you know a little something about op weapons yourself..( Flaylock Steve )... hmm makes me wonder what your using now. =p

Look at his name, hes salty his I win was nerfed

This isn't a nerf thread, smartass. I'm just making a statement to see if any other mass driver users feel the same way. Don't derail it into a nerf thread, please.



You need to loosen up, bro. Seriously what the hell is wrong with you?

I'm salty my win was nerfed? Lawl, before it was nerfed stopped using it and started using the glu tac ar and got the forge gun also for my dren heavy. Now I also use the md. Not so salty unlike most of you scrubs. And btw most of chars are named after a gun lol and i choose flaylock steve because itd hard to forget :) so again im not the one crying for the nerf bat everytime something kills me. Now whos salty lol nice try.

Dude I want you to leave so bad but you bump so good...

I'm salty my win was nerfed? Lawl, before it was nerfed stopped using it and started using the glu tac ar and got the forge gun also for my dren heavy. Now I also use the md. Not so salty unlike most of you scrubs. And btw most of chars are named after a gun lol and i choose flaylock steve because itd hard to forget :) so again im not the one crying for the nerf bat everytime something kills me. Now whos salty lol nice try.

the boundless dose 70 splash damage or so so if you are killed by one you are:

1:Staying in the area when you know he is firing at you

2:getting hit directly

3:Low on health and can't escape

U know youre prove your ignorance to the weapon right? Its not a 1v1 weapon, has 8 shots higher rate of fire and blast radius. You would be surprised at the kind of damage it can do to protos.

The QQ is strong in you
Point out how you are salty and get a long winded paragraph about how you arent even salty bro no u
You know that feeling you get where you think people are laughing at you and thats why you lash out? The lashing out is why we laugh at you but keep crying its entertaining

I just recently saw somebody go 40:3 with a Mass Driver. My heavy suit was happy he was on my team.

I've also been in a match in which nearly half the enemy team was spamming their MD like no tomorrow. It would have been epic, if not for the fact my heavy was being slaughtered by the constant explosions.

I feel that the MD is the new FoTM. Every time I get killed by a MD, I can't help but wonder if the user is using it because they actually enjoy the weapon...

You know you fail at trolling. Just saying, anyway awaiting your next remark. Please make it worth wild.


Edit: hmm I guess you can only have 5 quotes in a post. Never knew

Um? Only the assault mass driver has 8 shots and it rof is still slow. And the assault md does less dmg.

Did you put forth an effort to read what we were discussing?

Now we see the subject attempting to act like a reasonable mature adult, a facade sadly undermined by his previous actions
Unfortunately for this beta male he will be sleeping alone denied the chance to mate by other more dominant males of the species

Good night sir.

I generally either use either the EC-3 or the Core Breach, once in a while I pull out the Freedom but I feel dirty doing it.

The Freedom is for splash damage and people that can't aim.

The EC-3 is for spamming an area and making sure people either die when the enter it, or find another way around.

The Core Breach is for skilled players to one shot people in proto gear.

Any weapon with a blast radius + damage mods will be OP if you put enough on the suit. When will CCP learn that players stacking damage mods is whats ruining the game?

you know youre proving your ignorance to the weapon right? Its not a 1v1 weapon, has 8 shots higher rate of fire and blast radius. You would be surprised at the kind of damage it can do to protos.

i use mass drivers because i enjoy them an have since i first got my hands on them when I first joined Dust, i won't stop using them ever, not for any assault fanboy who doesn't know the meaning of tactics.

the thing that'll separate you from them is if you use your gear through it's ups and downs and not just when it's powerful

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Sinboto-the mass driving true blood Minja

Is that what they tell you? I'm sorry it must be hard having to live like you. trolling people to try to raise your self esteem. its ok, I understand this is the Internet. People like you just want to shine while people like me just to debate about a reasonable topic.
Now before you reply please think on what you're going to say next. If it's interesting and shows some sort of intelligence in you I might reply. If not I'll ignore. You can also simply ignore this post and carry on. good night sir.

Flaylock.......You know someone with a 1.4 (maybe 1.5 now) kdr shouldnt be talking smack. You suck kid. All of your arguments are void when you suck with the very weapons you claim are OP (AR/ASCR). I dont understand how you can even come on here and act like you are good.....assuming you have a 1.5 KDR that sucks in a normal FPS....and for Dust you arent even decent unless you have a 3.0 KDR. Perhaps you should work on your game instead of your smack talk because your game has not caught up with your mouth.


Oh and BTW on topic......the reason the MD is OP at this point (as I have been speaking with players who have been using MD for a long time now) is that before certain explosions wouldnt register. Now explosives are fixed so every shot is registering accurately....which means that the freakin 6 meter radius (9 if using assault) is crazy good at completely annihilating whole groups of enemies with no need to aim whatsoever. Its laughable that people think this is a difficult weapon to use in its current form.

Dude, what oes KDR have to do with being allowed to make a pont about a game. You sound like a douche, get a grip, this game doesn't even revolve around KDR. Don't tell someone to not talk smack and then proceed to discharge verbal vomit

Mass drivers need to do 10 splash damage.
Because reasons.

So you want it nerfed the way it was? Barely usable. Please gtfo. When will ccp grow a fking pair and stop giving in to these nerf threads just because people suck.

I trained my assault rifle to level 4 because everything will get nerfed. I mean everything. Nova knife, forge gun, grenades, av gear. Lavs. Just about everything non assault rifle or assault suit will get nerfed because if it kills a assault rifle user its OP. Even if it's a mele.

Dude, what oes KDR have to do with being allowed to make a pont about a game. You sound like a douche, get a grip, this game doesn't even revolve around KDR. Don't tell someone to not talk smack and then proceed to discharge verbal vomit

This is nonsense. Pick up a mass driver and go slaughter people. I bet you can't do it.

Go try a mass driver and then come back and call it a noob tube. Try to fight some really good shield tanks so you can see how much of a noob tube it is.

And your hits don't register? My grenades used to literally just disappear.

And now its working properly and people are crying FOTM, and that makes someone who's spent lots of time and SP with this weapon look like "noob-tubing spammers".

Oh gosh another one of these.....KDR does matter kid. I have seen many games where my team held all objectives almost the entire game but we lost because i was the only person doing any killing....So as a result we were winning the MCC dmg battle but we lost the game because they cloned out my team. Yea KDR matters in every FPS and if you dont understand or believe this then your a scrub and you are just looking for an excuse to justify your bad game.

Oh gosh another one of these.....KDR does matter kid. I have seen many games where my team held all objectives almost the entire game but we lost because i was the only person doing any killing....So as a result we were winning the MCC dmg battle but we lost the game because they cloned out my team. Yea KDR matters in every FPS and if you dont understand or believe this then your a scrub and you are just looking for an excuse to justify your bad game.

Kid? Shut your mouth, 1999. Yeah ok all objectives held and you still lost? Sound viable. KDR means nothing in objective based games you are talking out ur back end boy. Yeah ensuring ur team doesn't clone out is Important but your acting as if its the be all and end all of the game. And your little personal attack at the end, a scrub, grow up you immature child. My point was as it still is, anyone has the right to comment on the game regardless of KDR. Stop thinking your god and grow up. It's a game I need no excuse for not playing aswell as you, all that indicates is you play more and intern have less to do with the REAL world. Stop giving people a hard time and go outside, meet real people, give them your crap.

dumb thread. Now MD are too powerful. Before tho, when hit detection was broken, they were just right. - What a dumb thing to say. The OP implies that a weapon that was working off a broken mechanic was fine. Once the broken mechanic was fixed all of a sudden it's too OP.

I'd like to see an AR start getting jams and having half it's bullets just disappear in thin air and someone call this balanced.

Flaylock.......You know someone with a 1.4 (maybe 1.5 now) kdr shouldnt be talking smack. You suck kid. All of your arguments are void when you suck with the very weapons you claim are OP (AR/ASCR). I dont understand how you can even come on here and act like you are good.....assuming you have a 1.5 KDR that sucks in a normal FPS....and for Dust you arent even decent unless you have a 3.0 KDR. Perhaps you should work on your game instead of your smack talk because your game has not caught up with your mouth.


Oh and BTW on topic......the reason the MD is OP at this point (as I have been speaking with players who have been using MD for a long time now) is that before certain explosions wouldnt register. Now explosives are fixed so every shot is registering accurately....which means that the freakin 6 meter radius (9 if using assault) is crazy good at completely annihilating whole groups of enemies with no need to aim whatsoever. Its laughable that people think this is a difficult weapon to use in its current form.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

So you want it nerfed the way it was? Barely usable. Please gtfo. When will ccp grow a fking pair and stop giving in to these nerf threads just because people suck.

I trained my assault rifle to level 4 because everything will get nerfed. I mean everything. Nova knife, forge gun, grenades, av gear. Lavs. Just about everything non assault rifle or assault suit will get nerfed because if it kills a assault rifle user its OP. Even if it's a mele.

Lawl, when you started playing? When aim assist was around? And you talk about skill lol. What you run Assault Drop suit with prototype gear? Lawl, okay. I haven't been playing this game more than 4 months. Just 3 months. I ran a scout suit up to 1 month ago and you say I suck. You try running around with a scout suit in cqc using milita weapons and a milita sg. Btw I don't even have modules at level 3. But I suck with way less survivability than you lol okay scrub. Last time I checked scouts has been getting nerfed with every update. Now every suit has the same turn speed as a scout lol
And oh sorry I forgot the assault rifle is a hard gun to use. Hmm. I forgot that the gun actually takes skill when before I joined guns where much stronger. The tac ar was considered OP. And you could skill up faster lol please stfu.

Edit: if you're so good than you shouldn't even be complaining about the mass driver because you would have the skill to take them out by using tactics. All I see is a scrub that mainly play pubs with a sqaud to get his kdr good. Lol I've only been in sqauds for around 1 month and 17 days according to my account. Kthx, get good.

we don't really need the aim knock that bad. the problem is any nerf to the mass driver won't appease the vocal children. even if they removed aim knock and reduced the splash by 1m, noobs will join the forums and btch about MD because they never saw the more powerful version, more noobs will see that whine and jump on, then a mob forms and demands it nerfed again.

this goes for any weapon, we have weekend warriors//noobs in paper suits with no prior dust experience directing the flow of the game. so CCP will not just nerf it lightly, they see it as they're one chance in 6 months at a nerf so they hit it as hard as they can hoping the noobs will shut up their whines. they dont stop crying tho, their witch hunt just moves on to the next cry of the month.

You are just so hilarious. Yes KDR does not matter in an objective based game...... Its ret@rded thoughts like these and lead people to think they are somehow good. Of course there are other things to do but in a First Person Shooter....the primary goal is the shooting part.....if you cant understand this then there is no point in discussing this any further. A good shooter in a FPS game will be able to both maintain/capture an objective and stay alive while doing it. Obviously this is only referring to KDR of people who are actually on the battlefield....KDR of redline snipers generally means nothing (besides they usually have fewer than 10 kills anyway). I am sorry to burst your bubble.....KDR is important and the most important indicator of skill is what KDR you can maintain while being in the thick of things. Having a high KDR because you hide in the MCC as a squad leader and only use OBS to get your kills obviously has no meaning.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Again you miss the point u dumbass! If you actually read my post you could have the potential to fathom what is being said. Instead you grab hold of any possible ground you can in a hope to prove some point which has nothing to do with my original post. You just sound like one bitter little boy, now put on your Pj's and go to bed!

Um yea so you apparently dont understand the concept of weapon balance do you? I only died 1 time from the flaylock during the time it was OP but does that mean that the weapon wasnt OP then? No thats just bad logic. Its the same with the caldari logi...in general I could handle caldari logis just fine but does that mean their prior bonus was balanced just because I am skilled enough to made the difference in the suit stats mean very little?

I agree that CCP should not listen to bad players for game balance issues. That being said removing the aim knock and decreasing the max radius for the freedom to 4.5 meters and the max radius on the assault MD to 6.5 meters would balance out this weapon nicely......that or instead of reducing splash dmg reducing the clip size by 2 rounds would also balance this weapon while maintaining its effective niche.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

mass driver makes it diffiult for enemies to see and messes up their aim and requires no skill

I agree that CCP should not listen to bad players for game balance issues. That being said removing the aim knock and decreasing the max radius for the freedom to 4.5 meters and the max radius on the assault MD to 6.5 meters would balance out this weapon nicely......that or instead of reducing splash dmg reducing the clip size by 2 rounds would also balance this weapon while maintaining its effective niche.

I'm fine with the splash nerf and aim knock (unless it's a direct hit) but 2 round clip size... Come on now.

Reducing explosive bonus to armor to 115% or 120% would help. The splash damage should also be reduced the further away the target is from the center of the blast.

@ OP: Been using the MD since closed beta when it had a 4 round clip and was a lot weaker. I prefer to use it at medium and long ranges but it's nice to have it for close range fights as well. One problem is all these new MD players want to do is toss fluxes and spam spam spam at close range. This is a cheap way to use the weapon IMO. I rarely see anyone with a MD trying to take long range shots at anyone. Now we have a lot of people complaining and calling for nerfs.

Another problem is CCP can't seem to get the aiming fixed like they had it in Chromosome. I think that's a reason people are using area of effect weapons a lot more. Whereas in Chromosome the aiming was great and hardly anyone used the MD even when it was OP. If they can fix the aiming, then I'm betting people will switch to other weapons. That should be the #1 priority before they "fix" before anything else.

Just quickly....i said a 2 round clip size reduction...not a total clip size of 2 that would be stupid. So it would go from 6 and 8 (reg and assault) to 4 and 6.

There better be a damage buff in there, because the MD already has horrendous DPS.

And you missed my point completely. Just because you can comment doesnt mean anyone should ever consider your comment if you are a bad player. Bad players should accept where they are and understand that to them everything will seem OP. They will also generally protect whatever they use exclusively while calling for nerfs on every other weapon. If you dont know what your doing in a game then your comment should be pretty much worthless. Oh and kid your just priceless with your retorts. I cant wait to see what you come up with next.

You gotta read the entire post now cosgar. It was one of the 2 options for balancing the current MD. The weapon knock needs to be removed and then either the splash radius needs to be reduced to lvls that I mentioned above or instead of a splash radis reduction it gets a reduction in its clip size. Both solutions woudl balance out the weapon....and no there would be no dmg buff in either option.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

live with your choice fotm chump. just plain bad luck that you chose a weapon that no one knew was going to become op.

Flaylock.......You know someone with a 1.4 (maybe 1.5 now) kdr shouldnt be talking smack. You suck kid. All of your arguments are void when you suck with the very weapons you claim are OP (AR/ASCR). I dont understand how you can even come on here and act like you are good.....assuming you have a 1.5 KDR that sucks in a normal FPS....and for Dust you arent even decent unless you have a 3.0 KDR. Perhaps you should work on your game instead of your smack talk because your game has not caught up with your mouth.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Imo there op, there for suppressing, in a hall way or cluttered place they should win but in an open field at mid range my ar should win. How come a suppressing weapon assaulted me in the open field today and killed me I ask ( op)?...oh yea. When the mass drivers are overpowering ar's out on open ground there's a problem.

p.s. Seems as if you know a little something about op weapons yourself..( Flaylock Steve )... hmm makes me wonder what your using now. =p

By too powerful do u mean as good as the AR?

live with your choice fotm chump. just plain bad luck that you chose a weapon that no one knew was going to become op.

Actually I dont see an issue with your initial statement. A weapon was buffed in radius and rounds per clip but was balanced because explosive mechanics were bad and some would not register. Now CCP finally fixed the explosive detection and the buff that was given the MD has made it crazy good and a lolsy weapon to use. So as such CCP should change something about the MD to balance it out. It needs to either have the radius reduced or the clip size reduced (total ammo doesnt need to be reduced just reduce slip size down by 2 rounds).

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?