All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

So you want it nerfed the way it was? Barely usable. Please gtfo. When will ccp grow a fking pair and stop giving in to these nerf threads just because people suck.

I trained my assault rifle to level 4 because everything will get nerfed. I mean everything. Nova knife, forge gun, grenades, av gear. Lavs. Just about everything non assault rifle or assault suit will get nerfed because if it kills a assault rifle user its OP. Even if it's a mele.

Lawl, when you started playing? When aim assist was around? And you talk about skill lol. What you run Assault Drop suit with prototype gear? Lawl, okay. I haven't been playing this game more than 4 months. Just 3 months. I ran a scout suit up to 1 month ago and you say I suck. You try running around with a scout suit in cqc using milita weapons and a milita sg. Btw I don't even have modules at level 3. But I suck with way less survivability than you lol okay scrub. Last time I checked scouts has been getting nerfed with every update. Now every suit has the same turn speed as a scout lol
And oh sorry I forgot the assault rifle is a hard gun to use. Hmm. I forgot that the gun actually takes skill when before I joined guns where much stronger. The tac ar was considered OP. And you could skill up faster lol please stfu.

Edit: if you're so good than you shouldn't even be complaining about the mass driver because you would have the skill to take them out by using tactics. All I see is a scrub that mainly play pubs with a sqaud to get his kdr good. Lol I've only been in sqauds for around 1 month and 17 days according to my account. Kthx, get good.

we don't really need the aim knock that bad. the problem is any nerf to the mass driver won't appease the vocal children. even if they removed aim knock and reduced the splash by 1m, noobs will join the forums and btch about MD because they never saw the more powerful version, more noobs will see that whine and jump on, then a mob forms and demands it nerfed again.

this goes for any weapon, we have weekend warriors//noobs in paper suits with no prior dust experience directing the flow of the game. so CCP will not just nerf it lightly, they see it as they're one chance in 6 months at a nerf so they hit it as hard as they can hoping the noobs will shut up their whines. they dont stop crying tho, their witch hunt just moves on to the next cry of the month.

You are just so hilarious. Yes KDR does not matter in an objective based game...... Its ret@rded thoughts like these and lead people to think they are somehow good. Of course there are other things to do but in a First Person Shooter....the primary goal is the shooting part.....if you cant understand this then there is no point in discussing this any further. A good shooter in a FPS game will be able to both maintain/capture an objective and stay alive while doing it. Obviously this is only referring to KDR of people who are actually on the battlefield....KDR of redline snipers generally means nothing (besides they usually have fewer than 10 kills anyway). I am sorry to burst your bubble.....KDR is important and the most important indicator of skill is what KDR you can maintain while being in the thick of things. Having a high KDR because you hide in the MCC as a squad leader and only use OBS to get your kills obviously has no meaning.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Again you miss the point u dumbass! If you actually read my post you could have the potential to fathom what is being said. Instead you grab hold of any possible ground you can in a hope to prove some point which has nothing to do with my original post. You just sound like one bitter little boy, now put on your Pj's and go to bed!

Um yea so you apparently dont understand the concept of weapon balance do you? I only died 1 time from the flaylock during the time it was OP but does that mean that the weapon wasnt OP then? No thats just bad logic. Its the same with the caldari logi...in general I could handle caldari logis just fine but does that mean their prior bonus was balanced just because I am skilled enough to made the difference in the suit stats mean very little?

I agree that CCP should not listen to bad players for game balance issues. That being said removing the aim knock and decreasing the max radius for the freedom to 4.5 meters and the max radius on the assault MD to 6.5 meters would balance out this weapon nicely......that or instead of reducing splash dmg reducing the clip size by 2 rounds would also balance this weapon while maintaining its effective niche.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

mass driver makes it diffiult for enemies to see and messes up their aim and requires no skill

I agree that CCP should not listen to bad players for game balance issues. That being said removing the aim knock and decreasing the max radius for the freedom to 4.5 meters and the max radius on the assault MD to 6.5 meters would balance out this weapon nicely......that or instead of reducing splash dmg reducing the clip size by 2 rounds would also balance this weapon while maintaining its effective niche.

I'm fine with the splash nerf and aim knock (unless it's a direct hit) but 2 round clip size... Come on now.

Reducing explosive bonus to armor to 115% or 120% would help. The splash damage should also be reduced the further away the target is from the center of the blast.

@ OP: Been using the MD since closed beta when it had a 4 round clip and was a lot weaker. I prefer to use it at medium and long ranges but it's nice to have it for close range fights as well. One problem is all these new MD players want to do is toss fluxes and spam spam spam at close range. This is a cheap way to use the weapon IMO. I rarely see anyone with a MD trying to take long range shots at anyone. Now we have a lot of people complaining and calling for nerfs.

Another problem is CCP can't seem to get the aiming fixed like they had it in Chromosome. I think that's a reason people are using area of effect weapons a lot more. Whereas in Chromosome the aiming was great and hardly anyone used the MD even when it was OP. If they can fix the aiming, then I'm betting people will switch to other weapons. That should be the #1 priority before they "fix" before anything else.

Just quickly....i said a 2 round clip size reduction...not a total clip size of 2 that would be stupid. So it would go from 6 and 8 (reg and assault) to 4 and 6.

There better be a damage buff in there, because the MD already has horrendous DPS.

And you missed my point completely. Just because you can comment doesnt mean anyone should ever consider your comment if you are a bad player. Bad players should accept where they are and understand that to them everything will seem OP. They will also generally protect whatever they use exclusively while calling for nerfs on every other weapon. If you dont know what your doing in a game then your comment should be pretty much worthless. Oh and kid your just priceless with your retorts. I cant wait to see what you come up with next.

You gotta read the entire post now cosgar. It was one of the 2 options for balancing the current MD. The weapon knock needs to be removed and then either the splash radius needs to be reduced to lvls that I mentioned above or instead of a splash radis reduction it gets a reduction in its clip size. Both solutions woudl balance out the weapon....and no there would be no dmg buff in either option.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

live with your choice fotm chump. just plain bad luck that you chose a weapon that no one knew was going to become op.

Flaylock.......You know someone with a 1.4 (maybe 1.5 now) kdr shouldnt be talking smack. You suck kid. All of your arguments are void when you suck with the very weapons you claim are OP (AR/ASCR). I dont understand how you can even come on here and act like you are good.....assuming you have a 1.5 KDR that sucks in a normal FPS....and for Dust you arent even decent unless you have a 3.0 KDR. Perhaps you should work on your game instead of your smack talk because your game has not caught up with your mouth.

All of that invested SP just to look like a FOTM chump...

God.
Damn.
It.

EDIT: Perhaps I should have worded this better...I forgot who I was dealing with here...

Does anyone else feel like the mass driver is suddenly too powerful? I feel very cheap for using it now that it feels too strong.

How I lament that nobody I kill will know that I have invested a lot into the weapon and am not just using it to spam.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Imo there op, there for suppressing, in a hall way or cluttered place they should win but in an open field at mid range my ar should win. How come a suppressing weapon assaulted me in the open field today and killed me I ask ( op)?...oh yea. When the mass drivers are overpowering ar's out on open ground there's a problem.

p.s. Seems as if you know a little something about op weapons yourself..( Flaylock Steve )... hmm makes me wonder what your using now. =p

By too powerful do u mean as good as the AR?

live with your choice fotm chump. just plain bad luck that you chose a weapon that no one knew was going to become op.

Actually I dont see an issue with your initial statement. A weapon was buffed in radius and rounds per clip but was balanced because explosive mechanics were bad and some would not register. Now CCP finally fixed the explosive detection and the buff that was given the MD has made it crazy good and a lolsy weapon to use. So as such CCP should change something about the MD to balance it out. It needs to either have the radius reduced or the clip size reduced (total ammo doesnt need to be reduced just reduce slip size down by 2 rounds).