Got the idea from here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1144679#post1144679

Damage alone is boring!
Give us MOAR!

Ideas:

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Recoil Absorber:
Reduces recoil of the weapon when ADS
Standard: 10%
Advanced: 15%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

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Dispersion reducer:
Reduces dispersion of weapon when hip firing
Standard: 5%
Advanced: 10%
Complex: 15%

Stacking penalties apply

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ROF enhancer:
Increases the rate of fire of a weapon
Standard: 4%
Advanced: 6%
Complex: 12%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: ROF increases ammo usage, kick and dispersion, so I thought it would be a good idea to give it a slight edge DPS wise.

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Clip extender:
Increases ammo capacity of weapons:
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 30%

Stacking penalties apply

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Muscle memory enhancer:
Reduces reload time on weapons
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

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Weapon range enhancer:
Increases the optimal range on weapons
Standard: 2%
Enhanced: 4%
Complex: 8%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: Absolute range stays the same

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Pulse modifier:
Reduces the charge time on weapons
Standard: 10%
Enhanced: 15%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

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Burst Amplifier:
Increases the damage and ROF of a weapon, but reducing range
Standard: +3% to damage and ROF of weapon / - 7.5% to optimal and absolute range
Enhanced: +5% to damage and ROF of weapon / -10% to optimal and absolute range
Complex: +10% to damage and ROF of weapon / -15% to optimal and absolute range

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

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Field Amplifier:
Increases the range of weapons, but reduces damage and ROF
Standard: +7.5% to optimal and absolute range / -3% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Enhanced: +10% to optimal and absolute range / -5% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Complex: +15% to optimal and absolute range / -10% to damage and ROF of a weapon

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

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You, my friend, are scary.

+1

Hopefully they eventually they add weapon module slots for customizing weapons in this manner.

Hopefully they eventually they add weapon module slots for customizing weapons in this manner.

It will take much longer to do this system.
My idea would be probably much easier to do, which means we could have it faster.

Honestly... I think they need to remove damage mods instead of adding more stuff in the H/L slots. Simply because we can never achieve armor vs shield balance so long as damage mods exist to bias one side vs the other.

For tanks, I think we need mid slots ASAP for all turret/dps related modules.

Shield tankers get kin cats.
Armor tankers get damage mods.
What's the problem?

If kin cats affected move speed, maybe I would see them as equivalent.

However... kin cats are 15 PG each... they essentially compete directly with extenders for anything but a very specific shotgun logi build.

I would loooove the hipfire one for my assault scrambler

I think balancing for some of these would be a nightmare, but i agree with the idea of more variation...

I know the numbers are arbitary atm but the RoF/pulse mod is a lot more powerful then i think you realise...
Especially with the way stacking works

Huh?
Which one?

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ROF enhancer:
Increases the rate of fire of a weapon
Standard: 4%
Advanced: 6%
Complex: 12%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: ROF increases ammo usage, kick and dispersion, so I thought it would be a good idea to give it a slight edge DPS wise.

Ok for example....

A mass driver with 2-3 more shells. (clip increase)
A HMG with 25-30% more dmg (RoF + Dmg)
Forge gun with a 2sec Charge (pulse)
Manic Shotgun (Rof,Clip increase)

Im not saying these are bad ideas... but could very easily become a mess

+1 Don't see why these aren't in the game already.

EDIT: Also note when thinking about a RoF increase that it increases the likelihood of overheating. On the scrambler rifle especially, that's well worth noting as well.

Also, +1, this is great.

Becuase balance is hard.

I like your weapon upgrade ideas, Cat Merc. However, I think a weapons fitting screen should be added to accommodate this instead of installing them in the dropsuit fitting screen.

You mean I could slap on a range and dispersion mod on my GEK? The S.S. NerfAR won't like that. I think CCP will stay with the modified gun variations, as it would allow me to tweak any weapon to compensate for its intended weakness. There would have to be a downside to each mod. Gives you ROF, than it heightens the dispersion ect...

Looks good except I can't agree on %'s more than 10% at complex. The mods should give you an edge, not a massive advantage. Keep that in mind.

I want

Awaken the cat...

Gimme all these ideas.

I'll take the dispersion for my HMG.

Edit: So a while has passed since I posted this. I decided to rewrite it a bit for some proper balance.
I don't promise 140% balanced stuff, but better than it is currently.

Got the idea from here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1144679#post1144679

Damage alone is boring!
Give us MOAR!

For reference:

Damage mods do:
Standard: +3% to damage output
Enhanced: +5% to damage output
Complex: +10% to damage output

Ideas:

---

Recoil Absorber:
Reduces recoil of the weapon when ADS
Standard: 10%
Advanced: 15%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Dispersion reducer:
Reduces dispersion of weapon when hip firing
Standard: 5%
Advanced: 10%
Complex: 15%

Stacking penalties apply

---

ROF enhancer:
Increases the rate of fire of a weapon
Standard: 4%
Advanced: 6%
Complex: 12%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: ROF increases ammo usage, kick and dispersion, so I thought it would be a good idea to give it a slight edge DPS wise.

---

Clip extender:
Increases ammo capacity of weapons:
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 30%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Muscle memory enhancer:
Reduces reload time on weapons
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Weapon range enhancer:
Increases the optimal range on weapons
Standard: 3%
Enhanced: 5%
Complex: 10%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: Absolute and effective range stays the same, if optimal matches effective, the mod stops giving any benefits.

---

Pulse modifier:
Reduces the charge time on weapons
Standard: 7.5%
Enhanced: 12.5%
Complex: 17.5%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Burst Amplifier:
Increases the damage and ROF of a weapon, but reducing clip capacity and range.
Standard: +2% to damage and ROF of weapon / - 7.5% to optimal and effective range, -10% clip size
Enhanced: +4% to damage and ROF of weapon / -10% to optimal and effective range -20% clip size
Complex: +8% to damage and ROF of weapon / -15% to optimal and effective range -30% clip size

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

---

Field Amplifier:
Increases the range and clip size of weapons, but reduces damage and ROF
Standard: +7.5% to optimal and effective range, +10% clip size / -3% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Enhanced: +10% to optimal and effective range, +15% clip size / -5% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Complex: +15% to optimal and effective range, +25% clip size / -10% to damage and ROF of a weapon

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

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This is all pure win, bump.

Actually, someone made a video.
Apparently, the HMG has an extremely tight laser like dispersion.
He tested it and showed how it matches the laser in accuracy.

Huh, then tighten the HMG reticule.

Yup.

Well thought out! Excellent ideas

+1

Can I has a bipod too?

Hopefully they eventually they add weapon module slots for customizing weapons in this manner.

I'm not so sure about a pure rof bonus, as it is better than a damage bonus in all but a few special cases.

What would the ROF enhancers do to my kaalakiota sniper? Seeing as they increase dispersion and such, what would happen? Would my sniper become inaccurate? Or would my scope fly upwards after each shot (due to kick)

Kitty I want an answer :(

Edit: So a while has passed since I posted this. I decided to rewrite it a bit for some proper balance.
I don't promise 140% balanced stuff, but better than was.
Edit 2: Added three new modules, ROF regulator, Damage regulator and Power Siphon.

Got the idea from here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1144679#post1144679

Damage alone is boring!
Give us MOAR!

For reference:

Damage mods do:
Standard: +3% to damage output
Enhanced: +5% to damage output
Complex: +10% to damage output

Ideas:

---

Recoil Absorber:
Reduces recoil of the weapon when ADS
Standard: 10%
Advanced: 15%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Dispersion reducer:
Reduces dispersion of weapon when hip firing
Standard: 5%
Advanced: 10%
Complex: 15%

Stacking penalties apply

---

ROF enhancer:
Increases the rate of fire of a weapon
Standard: 4%
Advanced: 6%
Complex: 12%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: ROF increases ammo usage, kick and dispersion, so I thought it would be a good idea to give it a slight edge DPS wise.

---

Clip extender:
Increases ammo capacity of weapons:
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 30%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Muscle memory enhancer:
Reduces reload time on weapons
Standard: 15%
Enhanced: 20%
Complex: 25%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Weapon range enhancer:
Increases the optimal range on weapons
Standard: 3%
Enhanced: 5%
Complex: 10%

Stacking penalties apply

Note: Absolute and effective range stays the same, if optimal matches effective, the mod stops giving any benefits.

---

Pulse modifier:
Reduces the charge time on weapons
Standard: 7.5%
Enhanced: 12.5%
Complex: 17.5%

Stacking penalties apply

---

Burst Amplifier:
Increases the damage and ROF of a weapon, but reducing clip capacity and range.
Standard: +2% to damage and ROF of weapon / - 7.5% to optimal and effective range, -10% clip size
Enhanced: +4% to damage and ROF of weapon / -10% to optimal and effective range -20% clip size
Complex: +8% to damage and ROF of weapon / -15% to optimal and effective range -30% clip size

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

---

Field Amplifier:
Increases the range and clip size of weapons, but reduces damage and ROF
Standard: +7.5% to optimal and effective range, +10% clip size / -3% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Enhanced: +10% to optimal and effective range, +15% clip size / -5% to damage and ROF of a weapon
Complex: +15% to optimal and effective range, +25% clip size / -10% to damage and ROF of a weapon

Stacking penalties apply
Damage mods, ROF mods and range mods also count to the stacking penalties

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Damage Regulator:
Increases the damage massively, at the cost of ROF:
Standard: +11% to damage / -10% to ROF
Advanced: +12% to damage /-10% to ROF
Prototype: +15% to damage /-10% to ROF
Note: Used to augment a weapon to a different beast. For example a normal AR --> Breach.
The cost being that you would have one less high slot than if you just used that weapon in the first place.

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ROF Regulator:
Increases the ROF massively, at the cost of damage:
Standard: +11% to ROF /-10% to damage
Advanced: +12% to ROF /-10% to damage
Prototype: +15% to ROF /-10% to damage
Note: Used to augment a weapon to a different beast. For example a normal Breach --> AR.
The cost being that you would have one less high slot than if you just used that weapon in the first place.

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Power Siphon:
Increases your suit's CPU/PG at the cost of damage from your weapons:
Standard: +5% to CPU/PG / -2% to damage
Advanced: +8% to CPU/PG / -3% to damage
Prototype:+15% to CPU/PG / -5% to damage

Dispersion is hip fire accuracy.

+1 surprised this doesnt doesn't have blue tags yet.

I really want to slap 4 ROF regs on a suit with an SMG.
Just to see what happens.

"I just pulled the trigg... and I'm already out of ammo"

Actually, come to think of it, if you put the damage thingies that reduce rof on a suit with the laser rifle, how would that affect the heat build up and damage increase? Would they both go slower, same speed, or would the gun simply implode?

Dammit son, don't break the game!

+1


seperate suggestion id recomend a new type of slot related to the weapon and worse bouses than these. Id recomend a new weapons slot, where a std gun gets 1, adv gets 2 and proto gets 3 slots

Idea: Non standard variants (Like an Assault Forge gun or breach AR) get one less than normal variants.