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Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
16
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Posted - 2013.08.03 14:48:00 -
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If you just had an ambush game that ended 20/5 for you or something along those lines and all your DEATHS were because of LAVs roadkilling you = You are playing LAV 514 and ...
It really doesn't matter how good you perform , if the other team LAVs yours = you lose
The game before that which I had was 30/4 for me (yes 4 LAV deaths) and my team still lost ...
Something is really wrong with the roadkilling and if the team which perform s it wins and the team which excells in gungame LOSES in a FPS game = DEVs you are doing it wrong ... just saying .... |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
16
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Posted - 2013.08.03 14:53:00 -
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This shouldn't be fixed in 1.5 at the end of september or october or whenever you going to introduce the patch ... It should be fixed like TONIGHT ... The game and the players are hurting badly from it |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
61
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Posted - 2013.08.03 14:55:00 -
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Anti-vehicle gear is pretty handy. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
439
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Posted - 2013.08.03 14:55:00 -
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your tears are so fresh and tasty |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
158
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:02:00 -
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First, run in a squad.
Second, get a good AV guy/girl in your squad and make good friends with them.
I run Assault and an pretty much 100% anti-infantry, but when it comes to vehicles I typically just play the high ground or avoid them all together. When I DO get plagued by them, I get my buddy running Proto Swarms with Proficiency 5 and 5 damage mods in my squad to help keep the field clear. He's one that you don't run over, or you're gonna have a very bad time in that LAV. |
LudiKure ninda
Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:06:00 -
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Its really funny when you come at the some high platform at any map and you see all redberys hiding from 5 enemy LAV -s
And you make a multikill (4) man road kill hahaha |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
16
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:06:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:your tears are so fresh and tasty
You can drink my tears when I shed one to begin with
But I digress...
I am not mad or something If I am getting the kills I am getting I don't mind dying 4-5 even 20 times if my gun game is that bad BUT the question is am I going to die 20 times from guns or 20 times from some non skilled playing GTA on my team .
It is just unfair to the new players ... Believe me it is totaly unexpected experience to a newcommer to be smashed 14-15 times in one game by a vehicule especially if he is fresh from the academy where those thing basicly don't happen now that often
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
161
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:08:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:This shouldn't be fixed in 1.5 at the end of september or october or whenever you going to introduce the patch ... It should be fixed like TONIGHT ... The game and the players are hurting badly from it
It will be fixed in 1.4 So in a month. |
LudiKure ninda
Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:09:00 -
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hahahahah I am a PRO Grand Turismo driver |
Hasa Hakira
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
17
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:10:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:This shouldn't be fixed in 1.5 at the end of september or october or whenever you going to introduce the patch ... It should be fixed like TONIGHT ... The game and the players are hurting badly from it It will be fixed in 1.4 So in a month.
I really admire the patience TEST ALLIANCE shows both here and in EVE .
Respect and I hope that happens but ... idk |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
440
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:37:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:your tears are so fresh and tasty You can drink my tears when I shed one to begin with But I digress... I am not mad or something If I am getting the kills I am getting I don't mind dying 4-5 even 20 times if my gun game is that bad BUT the question is am I going to die 20 times from guns or 20 times from some non skilled playing GTA on my team . It is just unfair to the new players ... Believe me it is totaly unexpected experience to a newcommer to be smashed 14-15 times in one game by a vehicule especially if he is fresh from the academy where those thing basicly don't happen now that often
your original post was full of tears.... that is what tears are, my sobbing friend |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
30
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:52:00 -
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Forge gun eats lavs Makes team happy
Just wait for the driver to get in after it gets dropped
Then collect tears
Repeat |
DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
0
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:55:00 -
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Sorry, gotta make money somehow, and its hard to do that in my 2 mill isk Falchion. *shrugs* |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
205
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Posted - 2013.08.03 16:09:00 -
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I never quite understand the "just use AV" argument against the LAV problem.
Yes, AV is cool for blowing up vehicles sometimes. That doesn't change the fact that Militia LAVs can pop up out of no where and hit you for 10,000 damage.
I used to run nothing but AV nades and I still got ran over pretty often. Most of Dust's maps consist of big wide open fields. And even large parts of the 'cities' can be susceptible to roadkill. I've seen the things driving through crates, up on catwalks, in all kinds of nooks and crannies.
There is a problem. It's a combination of poor map 'design' and wild amounts of damage and high health bars for zero skill points and a small amount of isk. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2638
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Posted - 2013.08.03 16:19:00 -
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Murder taxis are the only vehicles that can do their job (kill/suppress infantry) and still profit. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
207
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Posted - 2013.08.03 16:20:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Murder taxis are the only vehicles that can do their job (kill/suppress infantry) and still profit. Here I thought they were transport vehicles and that HAVs were meant to kill/suppress infantry. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
400
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:55:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Murder taxis are the only vehicles that can do their job (kill/suppress infantry) and still profit. Here I thought they were transport vehicles and that HAVs were meant to kill/suppress infantry. Common mistake, their name is Light Attack Vehicle, and in their description they are supposed to be amazing anti-infantry vehicles. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
995
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:57:00 -
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Lol Ambush.
This was a necessary comment. |
Chris F2112
187.
288
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:01:00 -
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Dropship gunners are actually quite good for shooting players out of their fancy lavs. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
400
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:03:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Dropship gunners are actually quite good for shooting players out of their fancy lavs. As are LAV gunners. call in your own lavs, and have your gunner shoot out the enemy murder taxi guys. It will put a stop to their shenanigans quick fast and in a hurry. |
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8213
Grade No.2
73
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:08:00 -
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I used to run anti AV suits all the time. The GAME was dictating how I play. I had to miss out on kills and helping teammates better because I was restricted to do more damage to LAVs. And as the player base gained SP into their LAVs, it became harder and harder to take out, I just gave up.
The LAV's purpose was to transport and provide support, not rule the matches. Its easier and cheaper to just use LAVs, that's why scrubs are using them.
The LAVs can virtually access anywhere on the map.
Being forced into a certain niche of playing is wrong. Its called DUST 514, not DEMOLITION DERBY 514 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6904
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:11:00 -
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Swarm Launcher, Breach SMG Proximity explosives placed at slow down points. Easily puts demolition into Demolition Derby 514.
Flux Grenade and Plasma Cannon/Shotgun also does wonders for those 'idiot' drivers that constantly get stuck in places trying to run over players in tight spots.
Finally if you have fight fire with fire, favorite HAV, Large Scattered Blaster any variant, Aim for the driver compartment area, you'll kill LLAVs even this way, just be sure to stick with your support and back up and be weary of hostile AV. More humorously any HAV with speed mods can run over LAVs no problem in spirit of a real demolition derby match.
Face it, your assault rifle is not going to kill most vehicles. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
208
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:16:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Hasa Hakira wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:your tears are so fresh and tasty You can drink my tears when I shed one to begin with But I digress... I am not mad or something If I am getting the kills I am getting I don't mind dying 4-5 even 20 times if my gun game is that bad BUT the question is am I going to die 20 times from guns or 20 times from some non skilled playing GTA on my team . It is just unfair to the new players ... Believe me it is totaly unexpected experience to a newcommer to be smashed 14-15 times in one game by a vehicule especially if he is fresh from the academy where those thing basicly don't happen now that often your original post was full of tears.... that is what tears are, my sobbing friend The only person getting emotional seems to be you Seymore. That kind of malcontent hate isn't healthy. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
50
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:19:00 -
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Quit yer bitching and get some AV grenades.....its fun watching people blow up |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:23:00 -
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Well, thanks guys. Finally learned my lesson. Stacking damage mods with high proficiency on a proto swarm launcher. Got it, now I can finally kill those pesky MLT LAVs.
Shouldn't MLT AV gear be capable of taking out MLT Vehicles? How silly of me, of course not. And it is always nice to watch an LAV dodge Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers because they turn fast and there is always plenty of cover. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
218
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Posted - 2013.08.03 19:19:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Murder taxis are the only vehicles that can do their job (kill/suppress infantry) and still profit. Here I thought they were transport vehicles and that HAVs were meant to kill/suppress infantry. Common mistake, their name is Light Attack Vehicle, and in their description they are supposed to be amazing anti-infantry vehicles.
I thought that was a reference to the gun on top, not the front bumper. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
305
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Posted - 2013.08.03 20:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Swarm Launcher, Breach SMG Proximity explosives placed at slow down points. Easily puts demolition into Demolition Derby 514.
Flux Grenade and Plasma Cannon/Shotgun also does wonders for those 'idiot' drivers that constantly get stuck in places trying to run over players in tight spots.
Finally if you have fight fire with fire, favorite HAV, Large Scattered Blaster any variant, Aim for the driver compartment area, you'll kill LLAVs even this way, just be sure to stick with your support and back up and be weary of hostile AV. More humorously any HAV with speed mods can run over LAVs no problem in spirit of a real demolition derby match.
Face it, your assault rifle is not going to kill most vehicles.
Do you even play DUST?
Proximity Explosives are useless against LAV's unless they hit it dead on while creeping like they are going by a playground trying to kidnap a child (how many posts is ccp going to see asking why they explosions don't effect them). How many people can hit an LAV that is not flipped over with a FLUX and then still have the time to shoot them with your plasma cannon or shotgun before it is gone, and then even if it did flip over the driver can get out and knock it back upright and continue on their way before the toss animation on a grenade can do damage.
Another thing MAG did better was the AV Mines 3 of them blocked a roadway and blew up a vehicle... dusts are more like speed bumps that do nothing.
And FACE it the assualt rifle should be better at shooting the driver than a breach SMG.... which is a sidearm... and they are better off using a FLAYLOCK as it has longer range.
The LAV and LLAV has been the FOTM longer than the flaylock and the caldari logi...chew on that for a while. Whatever DRUGS you vehicle users are on should be put in the water or the kool-aid like in Jonestown. |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:43:00 -
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Dude, chill out. None of the CPM are good at the game. |
SGT Garrisson
BetaMax.
67
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:22:00 -
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biggest problem i have with the lav is they dont show on the radar till there on top of u
yea if there in front u can see it coming and have enuff time to react if it comes from any other direction ur screwed
the scan range of dropsuits im sure used to be longer like 25m now its only 10m u cant detect anything till its on u even with range extenders unless its in LOS of u or a teammate
im guessing scan range was reduced to 10m to make the active scanner useful
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Mortedeamor
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
141
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:35:00 -
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Hasa Hakira wrote:If you just had an ambush game that ended 20/5 for you or something along those lines and all your DEATHS were because of LAVs roadkilling you = You are playing LAV 514 and ...
It really doesn't matter how good you perform , if the other team LAVs yours = you lose
The game before that which I had was 30/4 for me (yes 4 LAV deaths) and my team still lost ...
Something is really wrong with the roadkilling and if the team which perform s it wins and the team which excells in gungame LOSES in a FPS game = DEVs you are doing it wrong ... just saying .... coughs ....um...av nades |
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