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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:02:00 -
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          The AR is a hit-scan weapon which fires 750 rounds per minute as long as you hold the trigger down. Fighting with it is as easy as pointing it in an enemy's direction and letting them walk in front of it, boom dead. If they get frisky, do lots of hopping, all you have to do is swipe your hit scan laser pointer (ahem, AR) over them a few times, and boom, dead.
  It isn't OP, it is designed with easy button for those without skill to play the game. No bullet time, no need to lead the shots, large clip size, no overheat, long distance and high power. just swipe it over the enemy a few times, ???, profit.
  It may not have any draw-backs, and have great fitting stats, but it isn't over powered at all. It is simply easy mode. You can use it in all situations, you can actually hit things above you with it, (unlike explosive weapons), you can fire the entire clip without over heating, (unlike laser weaponry and heavy machine guns), you can ads with it for very accurate long range shots, it's great in a squad( just have the whole squad swiping their hit-scan weapon over the enemy a few times, ???, profit).
  As easy mode as it gets. | 
      
      
      
          
          ReGnYuM 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:03:00 -
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          LOL
  Forum trash is just... trash   | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:05:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash     I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance. | 
      
      
      
          
          Killar-12 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:07:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash     It's not OP you need to... ...press the trigger! It's so hard! | 
      
      
      
          
          ReGnYuM 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:08:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash    I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance.  
  Do you guys own any PC districts
  or are you that kinda corp? | 
      
      
      
          
          Killar-12 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:11:00 -
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          Before I say anything else I have a question  What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has? | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:12:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash    I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance.  Do you guys own any PC districts or are you that kind of corp?   I remember you, I made a thread a while back titled 'Regnum Dei's rocket boots'. I was so upset that you ran from me every single time we met on the battlefield. I managed to pick off the rest of your people in 1v1s, and was quite proud of it. | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:14:00 -
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          Killar-12 wrote:Before I say anything else I have a question  What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has?   Sharp shooter? | 
      
      
      
          
          xjumpman23 
          Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:15:00 -
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          AR's are OP because DUST has always been filled with bad players. | 
      
      
      
          
          ReGnYuM 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:16:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash    I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance.  Do you guys own any PC districts or are you that kind of corp?  I remember you, I made a thread a while back titled 'Regnum Dei's rocket boots'. I was so upset that you ran from me every single time we met on the battlefield. I managed to pick off the rest of your people in 1v1s, and was quite proud of it.  
  I don't remember you... what a surprise.
  Anyways just another MD user justifying why their noob tube takes skill thread
 
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          Killar-12 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:16:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Before I say anything else I have a question  What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has?  Sharp shooter?   LOL, not what I meant. Player's skill? | 
      
      
      
          
          itsmellslikefish 
          DIOS X. II Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:16:00 -
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          Come now ladies theres no need to debate this topic. The AR is a weapon only a select few can use. You need certain qualifications. To name one you need a strong trigger finger, I'm sure the tactic of pray n sprays really hard on the pointer finger, poor guys. | 
      
      
      
          
          ReGnYuM 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:18:00 -
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          itsmellslikefish wrote:Come now ladies theres no need to debate this topic. The AR is a weapon only a select few can use. You need certain qualifications. To name one you need a strong trigger finger, I'm sure the tactic of pray n sprays really hard on the pointer finger, poor guys.   
  Oh this the guy who runs 6 man squads and gets raped by just me and aldin LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:18:00 -
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          Killar-12 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Before I say anything else I have a question  What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has?  Sharp shooter?  LOL, not what I meant. Player's skill?   Hmm, what player skill doesn't the scrambler rifle or pistol or hmg, or smg, or assault scrambler rifle, or forge gun have. 
  I'm not sure, please enlighten me. | 
      
      
      
          
          Killar-12 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:19:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:LOL Forum trash is just... trash    I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance.  Do you guys own any PC districts or are you that kind of corp?  I remember you, I made a thread a while back titled 'Regnum Dei's rocket boots'. I was so upset that you ran from me every single time we met on the battlefield. I managed to pick off the rest of your people in 1v1s, and was quite proud of it.  I don't remember you... what a surprise. Anyways just another MD user justifying why their noob tube takes skill thread   Neither weapon takes skill that why I use both of them. | 
      
      
      
          
          Heimdallr69 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:19:00 -
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          Ar isn't op but isn't the scr supposed to outrange it? | 
      
      
      
          
          DeadlyAztec11 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:20:00 -
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          Same applies to the ND
  Shoot around them till there dead. If they get jumpy, you jump even more! | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:21:00 -
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          Heimdallr69 wrote:Ar isn't op but isn't the scr supposed to outrange it?   It's supposed to, but it doesn't. Was some strange balancing thing where the AR (blaster tech) has more range than the sr. | 
      
      
      
          
          Killar-12 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:21:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Before I say anything else I have a question  What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has?  Sharp shooter?  LOL, not what I meant. Player's skill?  Hmm, what player skill doesn't the scrambler rifle or pistol or hmg, or smg, or assault scrambler rifle, or forge gun have.  I'm not sure, please enlighten me.   ScR has Overhaet management Pistol has a small clip and poor acuracy when moving HMG funcions poorly at range SMG, No skill needed spray and Pray AScR no skill FG charge time but easy to manage
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          Coleman Gray 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:22:00 -
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          If people didn't have a easy to use weapon to hold their hands how else would some people look good?   | 
      
      
      
          
          Smoky Fingers 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:22:00 -
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          Well at least AR's not OP as stated by op. So does that mean it's not getting nerfed? | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
          Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:26:00 -
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          Smoky Fingers wrote:Well at least AR's not OP as stated by op. So does that mean it's not getting nerfed?   CCP wouldn't nerf the AR to balance it with other weapons, they would nerf the other weapons so so nothing is viable except the easy mode, hit-scan AR. 
 
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          Nemo Bluntz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:31:00 -
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          Ha. Complaining about the core mechanic of a first person shooter as "you don't need skill to use it."
  Classic scrub ****. You'd probably complain about Guile throwing too many Sonic Booms in Street Fighter too. Holy ****. | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:36:00 -
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          Nemo Bluntz wrote:Ha. Complaining about the core mechanic of a first person shooter as "you don't need skill to use it."
  Classic scrub ****. You'd probably complain about Guile throwing too many Sonic Booms in Street Fighter too. Holy ****.   It's designed without the need to have any skill to use it, that's why it is on every single starter suit in the game. The devs know that it is easy mode, and deliberately made it so.
  Many people I know have tried the other weapons, but then went back to their ar because it is simply 'better'. It's so easy and simple to use, even you can use it, even I can use it. I haven't used a direct fire weapon in a long time; been suicide grenadeing people, nova knives (those got buffed, so straight melee people) or use pistols. Six months without an ar, and then pick one up and my kdr jumps between 9 to 17 per match. 
  It's easy mode, get over it. | 
      
      
      
          
          Nemo Bluntz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:39:00 -
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          I hate the way that the all around weapon can be used in an all around fashion.
 
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          Jax Saurian 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:41:00 -
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          Nemo Bluntz wrote:Ha. Complaining about the core mechanic of a first person shooter as "you don't need skill to use it."
  Classic scrub ****. You'd probably complain about Guile throwing too many Sonic Booms in Street Fighter too. Holy ****.  
 
  keep it civil  come on man
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          Nemo Bluntz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:42:00 -
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          I still don't get the complaint. Back in the beta (edit: back when I had easy access to the following), lasers had their purpose (usually anus peak). Great at mid-midlong range, not so good anywhere else. SMGs and shot guns are good at open close range. Mass Drivers and Flaylocks are great in tight close range, snipers are great at long rangers etc., etc.
  ARs aren't easy mode. They are the median weapon, and the most comfortable weapon for most FPS players. 
  Get over it. | 
      
      
      
          
          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:53:00 -
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          Nemo Bluntz wrote:I still don't get the complaint. Back in the beta (edit: back when I had easy access to the following), lasers had their purpose (usually anus peak). Great at mid-midlong range, not so good anywhere else. SMGs and shot guns are good at open close range. Mass Drivers and Flaylocks are great in tight close range, snipers are great at long rangers etc., etc.
  ARs aren't easy mode. They are the median weapon, and the most comfortable weapon for most FPS players. 
  Get over it.   Except they are easy mode in dust.
  Game skill required to be effective in dust (high kdr with weapon) from lowest skill (entry level) to master level as of 1.3:
 
 
 -  Easiest - Swarm Launcher
 -  Easy Mode - Assault Rifle / Assault scrambler rifle / Sub Machine Gun / Scrambler rifle
 -  Easy - Mass Driver / Flaylock
 -  Just above Easy - Heavy machine gun
 -  Moderate - Nova Knives
 -  Moderate - Forge Gun
 -  Challenging - Pistol
 -  Imposssibruuu - Plasma Cannon
 
 
 
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          itsmellslikefish 
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        Posted - 2013.08.03 04:59:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:Come now ladies theres no need to debate this topic. The AR is a weapon only a select few can use. You need certain qualifications. To name one you need a strong trigger finger, I'm sure the tactic of pray n sprays really hard on the pointer finger, poor guys.   Oh this the guy who runs 6 man squads and gets raped by just me and aldin LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL  
  Wut? I don't remember this. I run militia in pub matches you scrubberry. | 
      
      
      
          
          godhands9 
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          i wouldnt even need to read this to tell you.to be honest man the assault rifle just isnt the problem when you think a weapon is o.p....you need to think about damage mods and weapon pro. lvls..which means mega extra damage %.. | 
      
      
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