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Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 380	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:02:00 - [1] - Quote The AR is a hit-scan weapon which fires 750 rounds per minute as long as you hold the trigger down. Fighting with it is as easy as pointing it in an enemy's direction and letting them walk in front of it, boom dead. If they get frisky, do lots of hopping, all you have to do is swipe your hit scan laser pointer (ahem, AR) over them a few times, and boom, dead. It isn't OP, it is designed with easy button for those without skill to play the game. No bullet time, no need to lead the shots, large clip size, no overheat, long distance and high power. just swipe it over the enemy a few times, ???, profit. It may not have any draw-backs, and have great fitting stats, but it isn't over powered at all. It is simply easy mode. You can use it in all situations, you can actually hit things above you with it, (unlike explosive weapons), you can fire the entire clip without over heating, (unlike laser weaponry and heavy machine guns), you can ads with it for very accurate long range shots, it's great in a squad( just have the whole squad swiping their hit-scan weapon over the enemy a few times, ???, profit). As easy mode as it gets.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 380	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:05:00 - [2] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LOL Forum trash is just... trash I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 382	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:12:00 - [3] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: LOL Forum trash is just... trash I must agree with you, and bow out at your acceptance. Do you guys own any PC districts or are you that kind of corp? I remember you, I made a thread a while back titled 'Regnum Dei's rocket boots'. I was so upset that you ran from me every single time we met on the battlefield. I managed to pick off the rest of your people in 1v1s, and was quite proud of it.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 382	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:14:00 - [4] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Before I say anything else I have a question What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has? Sharp shooter?
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 382	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:18:00 - [5] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Before I say anything else I have a question What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has? Sharp shooter? LOL, not what I meant. Player's skill? Hmm, what player skill doesn't the scrambler rifle or pistol or hmg, or smg, or assault scrambler rifle, or forge gun have. I'm not sure, please enlighten me.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 384	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:21:00 - [6] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Ar isn't op but isn't the scr supposed to outrange it? It's supposed to, but it doesn't. Was some strange balancing thing where the AR (blaster tech) has more range than the sr.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 384	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:26:00 - [7] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Well at least AR's not OP as stated by op. So does that mean it's not getting nerfed? CCP wouldn't nerf the AR to balance it with other weapons, they would nerf the other weapons so so nothing is viable except the easy mode, hit-scan AR.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 384	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:36:00 - [8] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: Ha. Complaining about the core mechanic of a first person shooter as "you don't need skill to use it." Classic scrub **. You'd probably complain about Guile throwing too many Sonic Booms in Street Fighter too. Holy . It's designed** without the need to have any skill to use it, that's why it is on every single starter suit in the game. The devs know that it is easy mode, and deliberately made it so. Many people I know have tried the other weapons, but then went back to their ar because it is simply 'better'. It's so easy and simple to use, even you can use it, even I can use it. I haven't used a direct fire weapon in a long time; been suicide grenadeing people, nova knives (those got buffed, so straight melee people) or use pistols. Six months without an ar, and then pick one up and my kdr jumps between 9 to 17 per match. It's easy mode, get over it.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 387	Posted - 2013.08.03 04:53:00 - [9] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: I still don't get the complaint. Back in the beta (edit: back when I had easy access to the following), lasers had their purpose (usually anus peak). Great at mid-midlong range, not so good anywhere else. SMGs and shot guns are good at open close range. Mass Drivers and Flaylocks are great in tight close range, snipers are great at long rangers etc., etc. ARs aren't easy mode. They are the median weapon, and the most comfortable weapon for most FPS players. Get over it. Except they are easy mode in dust. Game skill required to be effective in dust (high kdr with weapon) from lowest skill (entry level) to master level as of 1.3: Easiest - Swarm Launcher Easy Mode - Assault Rifle / Assault scrambler rifle / Sub Machine Gun / Scrambler rifle Easy - Mass Driver / Flaylock Just above Easy - Heavy machine gun Moderate - Nova Knives Moderate - Forge Gun Challenging - Pistol Imposssibruuu - Plasma Cannon
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 391	Posted - 2013.08.03 05:41:00 - [10] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: I'm not at all arguing that this game is perfectly balanced, but the issue is that other weapons probably need some kind of buffs, but more importantly need to be spec'd into by a larger crowd first, which is going to take some time, before anybody can really complain that 'everyone is using the most comfortable weapon they can unlock in an fps that takes weeks before wanting to swap over to try a specialized one " The issue as I see it is that the generalist weapon wants to be the master of all. When shotguns were winning in close quarters, the generalist weapon demanded nerfs, and got them. When HMGs were winning in close quarters, the generalist weapon demanded nerfs, and got them. (Which have been reverted, thankfully). When the generalist weapon was getting blown up by flaylocks, it called for nerfs, and got them (rightfully so, imo). when the generalist weapon was getting killed by vehicles, it called for nerfs, and got them (that's a rabbit hole I'm not going down, especially with balancing around the corner). When SMGs were stomping in close quarters, the generalist weapon called for nerfs, and got them (remember back in closed beta?) Now that everything around the generalist weapon has been nerfed, the generalist weapon typically comes out on top even when fighting specialty weapons in their specialty. The issue is that everything around the AR has been nerfed, leaving it standing alone as the supreme weapon for almost all situations not involving vehicles. Buffs to the rest of the weapons will bring them in line with the AR, or nerfs to the AR will bring it in line with the other weapons. CCP will not nerf the AR, because it is the entry - level easy mode gun for entry level players. it is a high rate of fire, high damage, long range hit-scan weapon where all you have to do is hold the trigger and swipe the hit-scan beam across an enemy a few times to win. Easy mode at its best, especially when its competition has been nerfed into the ground. Now that certain weapons are making a come-back and challenging AR user's so-called elite skills, they want them nerfed, even if, especially if, they are still weaker in many aspects than the assault rifle.

Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 394	Posted - 2013.08.03 06:26:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Half of the weapons in this game are hit scan. Assault scrambler rifle is an AR with the name scrambler rifle. NOBODY is complaining, and yet it's practically the same. It's obvious bias, people hate what kills them most. The scrambler rifle is balanced with over heat, which not only shuts the weapon down for 10 seconds, but also prevents all other activities and deals damage to the user. ARs just reload.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 395	Posted - 2013.08.03 07:24:00 - [12] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Another AR is OP thread. Notice how all the guys that whine it's OP never use it... What a surprise! I feel that you are mistaken about this thread's intent. For me, when I pick up the AR I feel like a skill-less scrub, even when I go 15+ kdr with it. Just swipe the beam across the enemies, and zip, +50 +50 +50. I have to put it down and use a real man's weapon, like my scrambler pistol, or my suicide grenades.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 398	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:37:00 - [13] - Quote Torren Tivianne wrote: Well CCP can then make a weapon with wich you are not supposed to AIM at the ENEMY *OH WAIT* Orbitals?
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 400	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:57:00 - [14] - Quote 8213 wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Before I say anything else I have a question What skill does the AR take that no other weapon has? shorter time to kill. But truth be told, I don't think anyone has said ARs are OP in any game... Not much need for aim, just swipe the hitscan beam across the enemy a few times. If you call that 'aim' Well, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 405	Posted - 2013.08.03 20:52:00 - [15] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: If the AR is OP I'm screwed. My MD devastates them. Don't worry, the AR isn't OP, it's just easy button for people without skill. Swipe the hit scan beam across an enemy a few times, ??? Profit! So easy even I could do it.
Leovarian L Lavitz Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 408	Posted - 2013.08.03 23:39:00 - [16] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: If the AR is OP I'm screwed. My MD devastates them. Don't worry, the AR isn't OP, it's just easy button for people without skill. Swipe the hit scan beam across an enemy a few times, ??? Profit! So easy even I could do it. Such a crybaby, dude. God damn. Calm down. We are discussing the various assault rifles right now. Currently, I believe they require the least skill out of all non locking weapons to use effectively. Just swipe their hit-scan beam across a red and profit. Simple, easy, and fit to every single starter suit in the game. Designed to be easy button to help rookies and act as a crutch for veterans who think they have some sort of 'skill.' This isn't the Olympics. Swiping a hit-scan high damage high rof weapon across a red is the single easiest thing to do in dust short of murder taxi-ing or swarms.

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