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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:21:00 -
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I think a good way to stop with MCC AFK is to eliminate the MCC deployment room completely. This means that when you select to spawn at the MCC, after the loading time is done, you will appear falling immediately. Thats right, that easy. If you dont "play" you will die hitting the ground...hehehehe and even if you decide to press x you will be ingame and might be more encouraged to do something or leave battle, but no more free sp isk for you my friend, either play or leave, no more MCC afk.
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:23:00 -
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would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC. |
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:26:00 -
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And what would the people who assume a commander control do then? They wait in the MCC to organize the squads. |
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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:26:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC.
Hence the topic "MCC AFK" i don-¦t care if he afk-¦s somewhere else, not just on MCC, k thanks. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:27:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC.
He is right though, you wouldn't be able to AFK in the MCC anymore. |
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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:27:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:And what would the people who assume a commander control do then? They wait in the MCC to organize the squads.
Do it on the ground. Not on the MCC. |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
514
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:27:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC. Hence the topic "MCC AFK" i don-¦t care if he afk-¦s somewhere else, not just on MCC, k thanks.
Please justify how MCC afk is worth treating differently than anything else, or why it should be considered a distinct issue from AFK in general. |
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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:31:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC. Hence the topic "MCC AFK" i don-¦t care if he afk-¦s somewhere else, not just on MCC, k thanks. Please justify how MCC afk is worth treating differently than anything else, or why it should be considered a distinct issue from AFK in general.
I see more forum threads about stopping MCC afk than to stop outside MCC afk (i assume you mean red line afk). Still, red line afk still gives a chance to kill them, either snipe or ninja kill them before time runs out on your red clock. |
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Sloth9230
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:35:00 -
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You know, sometimes I spawn glitched into the MCC, kind of like CCP wants me to AFK ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) |
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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:38:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:You know, sometimes I spawn glitched into the MCC, kind of like CCP wants me to AFK ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
Yeah, you-¦re right, it has happened to me too. When approaching hatch i get stuck and can-¦t move. I pressed buttons and triangle made me crouch but able to deploy. Weird lol. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1279
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:42:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC.
Maybe not, but I still like this idea in general (not as a way to fix MCC AFK). At the very least make it happen more - I've had it happen to me a couple of times and it was like WTH - it was a bit of a rush to be honest - made me laugh and be thankful I was at least paying attention... hell of a way to lose a proto suit. |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:44:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC. Hence the topic "MCC AFK" i don-¦t care if he afk-¦s somewhere else, not just on MCC, k thanks. Please justify how MCC afk is worth treating differently than anything else, or why it should be considered a distinct issue from AFK in general. I see more forum threads about stopping MCC afk than to stop outside MCC afk (i assume you mean red line afk). Still, red line afk still gives a chance to kill them, either snipe or ninja kill them before time runs out on your red clock.
I disagree. Its called MCC camping but its one and the same. Red line AFK does NOT offer you a chance to be killed, unless your teammate is pushing you out of the boundaries with an LAV somehow. The redline zone is big enough that its very simple to not be killed. its different from redline sniping since when sniping you're open to counter sniping and have to at least be near the field of play. If you're redline afk-ing the enemy will never be able to spot you, get a shot at you, or even know you're there.
Not to mention dropping out of the MCC and using your inertial damps is one of the signature effects of the game, even if people more often than not choose to spawn on the ground. |
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Myron Kundera
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:47:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:Myron Kundera wrote:Oso Peresoso wrote:would change nothing. Just as easy to afk anywhere else instead of the MCC. Hence the topic "MCC AFK" i don-¦t care if he afk-¦s somewhere else, not just on MCC, k thanks. Please justify how MCC afk is worth treating differently than anything else, or why it should be considered a distinct issue from AFK in general. I see more forum threads about stopping MCC afk than to stop outside MCC afk (i assume you mean red line afk). Still, red line afk still gives a chance to kill them, either snipe or ninja kill them before time runs out on your red clock. I disagree. Its called MCC camping but its one and the same. Red line AFK does NOT offer you a chance to be killed, unless your teammate is pushing you out of the boundaries with an LAV somehow. The redline zone is big enough that its very simple to not be killed. its different from redline sniping since when sniping you're open to counter sniping and have to at least be near the field of play. If you're redline afk-ing the enemy will never be able to spot you, get a shot at you, or even know you're there. Not to mention dropping out of the MCC and using your inertial damps is one of the signature effects of the game, even if people more often than not choose to spawn on the ground.
I-¦ve read somewhere that red line is needed to regroup and deploy vehicles relatively safe. I guess you can-¦t take away the red line and you can-¦t force people to play, so, unless CCP removes you from the battle completely i don-¦t see how you can fix this. Any ideas lazy bear? |
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Nekrokult
Cariocecus Consilium
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:21:00 -
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Make the MCC a redzone, that way you have that time window to look around and plan but are eventually forced to drop down or die. |
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Thumb Green
Novashift
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:34:00 -
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Just remove passive isk & sp gain for anyone behind their redline and nobody will afk anywhere back there. |
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howard sanchez
spliff's channel
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:38:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Just remove passive isk & sp gain for anyone behind their redline and nobody will afk anywhere back there. And then you can watch the active player count PLUMMET instead of slowly decline
You morons who complain about players afk'ing need to adjust your aim. It's not the players...it's the game. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:49:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Just remove passive isk & sp gain for anyone behind their redline and nobody will afk anywhere back there. I've learned from sniping that every map has corners outside of the redzone that nobody ever checks. |
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semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:00:00 -
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Any suggestion made other than to simply swap the SP gain to 5 SP per WP and 1 SP per second is a waste of time. They will never do those things and it is too much programming. |
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Meldreth Thornbrew
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:07:00 -
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A good way to stop mcc afking and afk in general is to zero out the sp gained by those in the red zone or mcc. Oh look, we solved the red line tanking/sniping issue too. |
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
347
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:08:00 -
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Make the game fun to play? Instead of bad. |
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semperfi1999
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:11:00 -
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Meldreth Thornbrew wrote:A good way to stop mcc afking and afk in general is to zero out the sp gained by those in the red zone or mcc. Oh look, we solved the red line tanking/sniping issue too.
Redline should simply be removed....I dont need an area of protection where the enemy cannot follow me. |
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:13:00 -
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i've seen more than a fair share of ppl. suckin up free s.p. even i have done it not lieing, but there has got to be a way to where if they stand for to long doing nothing...well..like say if your sniper this wouldnt apply cause your scoping up and moving but...if you dont touch the controller for over 3 minutes..boot um'.....this is a very good thread post and i think ccp needs to get on this..it takes the fun out of the game also to have 9 people fightin in skirmish and the rest is sitting in the mcc or behind a wall in redline...
now that i think about it there really is no way to do that 3 min. kick then ppl. will just move every now and then...hmmmm theres gotta be a way... |
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:15:00 -
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Its a perfect idea. You'll never stop AFKers, but at least take away the spot where they are immune to all harm. If you want to AFK, you have to do it where you can be accessible to harm. |
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Viktor Zokas
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:17:00 -
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Just start taking away SP from people who afk. |
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:19:00 -
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Just make it so we can push each other. Boom, problem solved. |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:30:00 -
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"Madness...? This is Oceania!"
King Leonidas AFK'd like a champ. |
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:09:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Just start taking away SP from people who afk.
i think this would pis people off and make people cry to ccp with help tickets tho. |
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:10:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Just make it so we can push each other. Boom, problem solved.
hahahaha really good ![Idea](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_idea.png) |
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Th3rdSun
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:14:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Just remove passive isk & sp gain for anyone behind their redline and nobody will afk anywhere back there. And then you can watch the active player count PLUMMET instead of slowly decline You morons who complain about players afk'ing need to adjust your aim. It's not the players...it's the game.
But isn't his suggestion a way to fix one of the exploits of the game?
You have to fix the game in order to "fix" the players.
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:37:00 -
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Clone self destruction. If not active, tacnet unleashes a plasma cannon on that ***!!!! |
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Morrigan Uroboros
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:42:00 -
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Who says we're AFKing? I had an epic duel with a person in an MCC, grenades and bullets everywhere, before turning into a melee fight with us falling out the MCC and chasing each other around the map |
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Robbing The Hood
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Posted - 2013.08.03 00:23:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:I think a good way to stop with MCC AFK is to eliminate the MCC deployment room completely. This means that when you select to spawn at the MCC, after the loading time is done, you will appear falling immediately. Thats right, that easy. If you dont "play" you will die hitting the ground...hehehehe and even if you decide to press x you will be ingame and might be more encouraged to do something or leave battle, but no more free sp isk for you my friend, either play or leave, no more MCC afk.
Thanks.
Ill camp in the safe zone if the MCC is gone
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Thumb Green
Novashift
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Posted - 2013.08.03 00:42:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Just remove passive isk & sp gain for anyone behind their redline and nobody will afk anywhere back there. And then you can watch the active player count PLUMMET instead of slowly decline You morons who complain about players afk'ing need to adjust your aim. It's not the players...it's the game.
So, they're not playing the game anyways so who gives a ****. Yes, the displayed player count will drop and yet the number of people actually playing the matches will stay reletively the same and could even increase because people will no longer be rewarded for doing nothing at least not without risk.
Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I've learned from sniping that every map has corners outside of the redzone that nobody ever checks.
If it can happen it will happen; sooner or later someone will check those spots or word otherwise gets out that they're afk hangouts and that's a risk afk'ers will have to take if they want to afk. No matter how small the chance of it the fact that they have to take a risk makes it 10x better than what we have now. |
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