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EMOLANO G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:06:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, recently I was jgando couple of dust 514 in my spare time, and realized that facing an enemy with a mass driver is not a very good idea. Wanted to know the opnion of you, do you think this gun is a bit too strong?
Rusty Sandstorm Raven Accord Black Core Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:08:00 - [2] - Quote Frag rounds.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 99	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:08:00 - [3] - Quote IT IS SO OVERPOWERED THAT I AM FEELING THE SPLASH DAMAGE WAY OVER HERE AND I AM NOT EVEN LOGGED INTO THE GAME HELP!
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 199	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:10:00 - [4] - Quote godd@mit
Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 136	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Caldari logis like to cry about getting oneshot by the MD because they cant comprehend the flux that smacked them first.
First Prophet Valor Company Incorporated 744	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:12:00 - [6] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: IT IS SO OVERPOWERED THAT I AM FEELING THE SPLASH DAMAGE WAY OVER HERE AND I AM NOT EVEN LOGGED INTO THE GAME HELP! THERE'S SMOKE EVERYWHERE HALP
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 955	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:15:00 - [7] - Quote Yes. inb4 Cosgar rains hellfire upon me. jk they're fine.
Aleksander Black Shining Flame Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:16:00 - [8] - Quote EMOLANO wrote: Hello, recently I was jgando couple of dust 514 in my spare time, and realized that facing an enemy with a mass driver is not a very good idea. Wanted to know the opnion of you, do you think this gun is a bit too strong? No.
Derek Barnes ZionTCD 361	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:23:00 - [9] - Quote To me they arent OP, I run a proto amarr logi and die from them fast but not because they are OP but because I occasionally run into 2 guys running together with their 2 mass drivers.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5219	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:23:00 - [10] - Quote NO It has high splash radius which is great advantage, but very low damage per second compared to an AR, even if all hits are direct hit, and even less DPS if its just splash damage (direct hits are rare). The fact the grenades travel in an arc, and travel slowly makes it require a degree of skill that other weapons do not. It is balanced. Try using it yourself before complaining about it, and see how many kills you rack up compared to an AR of the same tier.

Ark Angel Clone-A Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 16	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:34:00 - [11] - Quote in a way MD are not OP because you really are shooting grenades out of a gun so it seems logical that they would be this powerful
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 130	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:35:00 - [12] - Quote Its a grenade launcher, be happy it doesnt do 400 damage like locus, on top of that anything kills easy and quick in cqc, at medium range getting hits with it requires movement tracking and judging trajectory, on top of all that it's a fking grenade launcher. No it's working as intended despite hating getting blown up with it. I do use it from time to time but with planetary conquest for my corp soon making it a situational weapon due to friendly fire I refrain from using it.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2892	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:37:00 - [13] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: Caldari logis like to cry about getting oneshot by the MD because they cant comprehend the flux that smacked them first. I want a flux MD just for the variety, and the hate caldari users would give me.
Paran Tadec Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1261	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:39:00 - [14] - Quote Its only 'OP' when 4 idiots chase you around a corner only to be met with a flux and then 2 MD rounds, wiping out all 4.
The Loathing The Southern Legion 195	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:40:00 - [15] - Quote EMOLANO wrote: Hello, recently I was jgando couple of dust 514 in my spare time, and realized that facing an enemy with a mass driver is not a very good idea. Wanted to know the opnion of you, do you think this gun is a bit too strong? No.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 207	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:42:00 - [16] - Quote their fine your just gonna see more of them now that they can out shine the flaylock
Cat Merc BetaMax. 3680	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:44:00 - [17] - Quote I wouldn't call it OP, just broken in a way. Yeah, sure, you get less DPS, but I can't ******* see you from all the smoke everywhere. Not to mention the fact that my frame rate drops from all the effects, and my screen flinches everytime you hit me. I should at least be able to evade it. Give the splash a proper fall off, so at 5m I get barely scratched from the damage.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2778	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:44:00 - [18] - Quote EMOLANO wrote: Hello, recently I was jgando couple of dust 514 in my spare time, and realized that facing an enemy with a mass driver is not a very good idea. Wanted to know the opnion of you, do you think this gun is a bit too strong? I think it's just fine now. It used to suck.
Aquinarius Zoltanus 0uter.Heaven EoN. 218	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:49:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I wouldn't call it OP, just broken in a way. Yeah, sure, you get less DPS, but I can't ******* see you from all the smoke everywhere. Not to mention the fact that my frame rate drops from all the effects, and my screen flinches everytime you hit me. I should at least be able to evade it. Give the splash a proper fall off, so at 5m I get barely scratched from the damage. Of all the changes people have suggested for the MD, I think adding splash damage fall off is probably the best/most reasonable one I've heard. It is a little bit silly and counterintuitive that the damage is the same 1 inch away from the blast and 5 meters away from the blast. Unfortunately it seems like CCP might not have the technology to implement this kind of change at this time. But this is a change I could get behind.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 147	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:54:00 - [20] - Quote The only thing that might need to be looked into about the Mass Driver is number of rounds in the clip or reload speed. However it's nowhere near as big an issue as the pre-nerf Flaylock. First other suits, weapons and most importantly Armor needs to be balanced. After that point balance might need to be revisited on the MD, until then it's fine.

Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 164	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:08:00 - [21] - Quote I have spent ~3 million SP in my Mass Driver to keep people like you QQing. Let me let you guys in a secret of how to combat a Mass Driver. Get above it or get far enough away that I won't be able to EASILY hit you. If you are in a group and you feel a round hit you. It should go through your THICK SKULL. TO GET OUT OF SAID GROUP. It is sad how many people I kill because they are next to 5 OTHER PEOPLE.
Phantom Vaxer The Generals EoN. 70	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:09:00 - [22] - Quote The weapon isn't OP, its just easily spammable. Spam enough with minimal aim and you'll get the kill. If the other player can aim and shoot enough with either a Scrambler Rifle, Assault Rifle, or SMG
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 164	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:10:00 - [23] - Quote Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I wouldn't call it OP, just broken in a way. Yeah, sure, you get less DPS, but I can't ******* see you from all the smoke everywhere. Not to mention the fact that my frame rate drops from all the effects, and my screen flinches everytime you hit me. I should at least be able to evade it. Give the splash a proper fall off, so at 5m I get barely scratched from the damage. Of all the changes people have suggested for the MD, I think adding splash damage fall off is probably the best/most reasonable one I've heard. It is a little bit silly and counterintuitive that the damage is the same 1 inch away from the blast and 5 meters away from the blast. Unfortunately it seems like CCP might not have the technology to implement this kind of change at this time. But this is a change I could get behind. My fully spec'd mass driver only has a blast radius of 3.88. Without that specing it's blast radius is only 3. The assault variants have a blast radius of 5, with 5.88 by my skills. The splash damage is really only extremely devastating when people clump up.
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 164	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:12:00 - [24] - Quote Phantom Vaxer wrote: The weapon isn't OP, its just easily spammable. Spam enough with minimal aim and you'll get the kill. If the other player can aim and shoot enough with either a Scrambler Rifle, Assault Rifle, or SMG News flash. Only the mass drivers that don't know what they are doing spam at a 5m - 35m range. If they are that close it is much more beneficial to aim.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood 434	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:12:00 - [25] - Quote Mass driver is fine it just needs to do extra damage to the user in CQC. The user should be punished for using an explosive weapon in close, if they don't have a sidearm for CQC they should end up killing themselves.
XxWarlordxX97 187. 4330	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:12:00 - [26] - Quote EMOLANO wrote: Hello, recently I was jgando couple of dust 514 in my spare time, and realized that facing an enemy with a mass driver is not a very good idea. Wanted to know the opnion of you, do you think this gun is a bit too strong? If MD is under power then the HMG is really Under power
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2582	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:13:00 - [27] - Quote No. Try using one before complaining.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 984	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:14:00 - [28] - Quote An Assault Rifle has an easier time getting kills, is more versatile, can usually stretch its ammo farther, is ubiquitous on the battlefield and has less requirements. So no, the Mass Driver is not overpowered.
Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 91	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:15:00 - [29] - Quote Mass Driver is fine as is... As Carlos said if they know what they are doing only the Massholes spam the weapon...
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2893	Posted - 2013.08.01 02:18:00 - [30] - Quote Spycrab Potato wrote: I have spent ~3 million SP in my Mass Driver to keep people like you QQing. Let me let you guys in a secret of how to combat a Mass Driver. Get above it or get far enough away that I won't be able to EASILY hit you. If you are in a group and you feel a round hit you. It should go through your THICK SKULL. TO GET OUT OF SAID GROUP. It is sad how many people I kill because they are next to 5 OTHER PEOPLE. This, people have no right to complain when they clump up when fighting a AoE weapon.



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