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da GAND
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:52:00 -
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So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? |
Paladin Sas
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
81
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:06:00 -
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i kill headglitching snipers with teh PC |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:15:00 -
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da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? Plasma canon role is to kill moving infantry at long range,your enemy wont even see you and they will die in one hit.You must compensate for projectile drop and lead your target a lot.Dont even bother shooting vehicules or instalations with it,not worth it because you cant one hit kill those. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
981
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:18:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? Plasma canon role is to kill moving infantry at long range,your enemy wont even see you and they will die in one hit.You must compensate for projectile drop and lead your target a lot.Dont even bother shooting vehicules or instalations with it,not worth it because you cant one hit kill those. and they'll dodge it most of the time because of their speed. so yea PC is an ok noob tuber for infantry. |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
47
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:29:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Bob Teller wrote:da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? Plasma canon role is to kill moving infantry at long range,your enemy wont even see you and they will die in one hit.You must compensate for projectile drop and lead your target a lot.Dont even bother shooting vehicules or instalations with it,not worth it because you cant one hit kill those. and they'll dodge it most of the time because of their speed. so yea PC is an ok noob tuber for infantry. That's why i made this equasion: DS x 0.36 /D+2.44m=amount of lead(in meters) needed (DS=dropsuit speed and D=distance from target) I'm working on a formula for projetile drop |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:25:00 -
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I use it as a harassing weapon on my scout suit( since i know to flaylock is going to be nerf)
i trying to make it the new flaylock to me and it do good can 12/1, 14/1 with it
Beware of Splash dmg |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
446
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:30:00 -
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Played with it for a few days and it was awesome when used in a similar style as a shotgun. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:38:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? Plasma canon role is to kill moving infantry at long range,your enemy wont even see you and they will die in one hit.You must compensate for projectile drop and lead your target a lot.Dont even bother shooting vehicules or instalations with it,not worth it because you cant one hit kill those. Hah , considering its designed for urban anti-vehicle combat (read the combat text), I guess hitting stationary targets at a distance... Is all you can do with its small splash and slow projectile speed. You can easily sidestep a shot if you see it coming... Even as close as 6 meters away. |
da GAND
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:42:00 -
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Been using it for a couple of battles now and I think I found my new favorite weapon |
Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:45:00 -
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I run around in the city of the levels and OHK heavies with the standard :D |
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da GAND
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:47:00 -
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Phantom Vaxer wrote:I run around in the city of the levels and OHK heavies with the standard :D
The standard one seems fine to me I don't really think I have to use the advanced or proto ones |
Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:51:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Phantom Vaxer wrote:I run around in the city of the levels and OHK heavies with the standard :D The standard one seems fine to me I don't really think I have to use the advanced or proto ones
Thats the problem with the Plasma Cannon. Adv and Pro versions are just pathetic in scaling. You get to squeeze a lil over 100 damage on direct and only like 40 on splash. So not much reason to use a 50k Pro version for a lil extra when you can just use the cheap 1.5k Std |
Roldrage
DIOS X. II Top Men.
116
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:51:00 -
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Eh I mix it up, I can engage close range targets, snipe stationary targets at distance (and the occasional moving target if they're predictable), anti-installation/AV roles to an extent and mortar clusters of enemies. It's quite a versatile weapon tbh. |
8213
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:52:00 -
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I have never seen the Plasma Cannon used in the 6 months I've been play DUST... it hasn't shown up in the kill feed ONCE. |
Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:53:00 -
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Also I sneak up on tanks and shoot all my PC shots with my AV or Flux grenades depending on if its shield or armor |
forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
35
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:06:00 -
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AV and infantry suppression :P |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
118
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:11:00 -
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da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for?
Haha, Mr Musturd got me using the plasma cannon a few weeks ago. They are rewarding weapons IF you can perfectly line up a shot on target which is very hard!
The splash damage is very underpowered considering what it is and to be honest I found that its damage against vehicles was equally low. The way the projectile drops as well is a little saddening, I would like it if it fired mostly straight , similar to how maybe an RPG would work in other games, as I see it, its akin to a RPG launcher. |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:13:00 -
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Either up close for 1-on-1 or if a team is all pouring out of a complex from the same exit then you can provide a good bit of fire support. Get your range dialed in and watch the assists roll in.
For AV, I would much rather have a forge gun or swarms. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
548
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:47:00 -
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8213 wrote:I have never seen the Plasma Cannon used in the 6 months I've been play DUST... it hasn't shown up in the kill feed ONCE. It's the next big thing. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:55:00 -
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Imagining a whole team/squad of PC users spamming it and how fast people would cry OP. I would love to see/be apart of one. Once I get a couple other things out the way I plan on throwing some SP at it. Definately the most fun outta all the weapons I have tried yet. |
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Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:40:00 -
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2 things:
1- Ambushes
2- Killing Caldari HAV's.
It's useless otherwise.
Peace, Aizen |
G Felix
Federated Consultants PMC
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Posted - 2013.07.27 03:01:00 -
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I don't use it as a mainstay, but it sure is satisfying to be succesful with. It excells as a shotgun equivalent for taking down heavies, particularly those with logi escorts. Also makes for an effective croud control tool, even though the splash feels weak for the weapon's lore. I have never been able to get this weapon to rival packed AV 'nades against vehicles, but the description is correct about sticking to urban areas and tight cover. Out in the open your projectile will mopst likely be spotted quickly, dodged, and fire will be returned long before that reload is finished.
Would heartily agree that the Std version is the only cost effective version in terms of both SP and ISk.
I have also had many collision detection issues with this weapon's projectile, ie disappearing into walls/floors/dropsuits without exploding. Doesn't seem to have recieved the same kind of love MD's have in that sense.
Then again, as is, it's definitely hard mode...
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da GAND
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:32:00 -
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G Felix wrote:I don't use it as a mainstay, but it sure is satisfying to be succesful with. It excells as a shotgun equivalent for taking down heavies, particularly those with logi escorts. Also makes for an effective croud control tool, even though the splash feels weak for the weapon's lore. I have never been able to get this weapon to rival packed AV 'nades against vehicles, but the description is correct about sticking to urban areas and tight cover. Out in the open your projectile will most likely be spotted quickly, dodged, and fire will be returned long before that reload is finished.
Would heartily agree that the Std version is the only cost effective version in terms of both SP and ISk.
I have also had many collision detection issues with this weapon's projectile, ie disappearing into walls/floors/dropsuits without exploding. Doesn't seem to have recieved the same kind of love MD's have in that sense.
Then again, as is, it's definitely hard mode...
Might just stick with the standard version then and work on the skills only |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven EoN.
696
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:38:00 -
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I see about as many Plasma Cannons as I do Laser Rifles on the battlefield. |
Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:49:00 -
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I would like to see the projectile move faster and maybe reduce the arc on it... I hate to use another game's weapons as reference but the plasma launcher in Halo was pretty useful...sticky plasma which detontated after a few seconds if memory serves me correctly. |
Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:54:00 -
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Or if it became somewhat like a mortar launcher in BF3... Again a much faster projectile but with the arc massively increased... Could be incredibly useful for taking objectives... or just blowing the absolute crap out of an entrenched group of reds |
Alldin Kan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:59:00 -
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This kind of Feedback my friends, is why we can't have nice things. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1695
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:30:00 -
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I haven't seen a plasma cannon be used in over a month. I got killed once by it, but have only seen it one time since then. |
Sarducar Kahn
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:51:00 -
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I had one trying to hit my ADS, needless to say he died. I have seen 3 I think since 5.14 |
Extraneus Tenebrarum
THE BOSSES
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:04:00 -
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I use it as AV but before u say its useless I run a scout with packed av nades and proximities and its extremly useful in a direct fight with lavs since almost all lavs wanna run u over I throw proxis on the ground shoot the lav with the PC dodge it and finish it off with the AV nades |
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G Felix
Federated Consultants PMC
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Posted - 2013.07.28 06:58:00 -
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da GAND wrote:G Felix wrote:I don't use it as a mainstay, but it sure is satisfying to be succesful with. It excells as a shotgun equivalent for taking down heavies, particularly those with logi escorts. Also makes for an effective croud control tool, even though the splash feels weak for the weapon's lore. I have never been able to get this weapon to rival packed AV 'nades against vehicles, but the description is correct about sticking to urban areas and tight cover. Out in the open your projectile will most likely be spotted quickly, dodged, and fire will be returned long before that reload is finished.
Would heartily agree that the Std version is the only cost effective version in terms of both SP and ISk.
I have also had many collision detection issues with this weapon's projectile, ie disappearing into walls/floors/dropsuits without exploding. Doesn't seem to have recieved the same kind of love MD's have in that sense.
Then again, as is, it's definitely hard mode... Might just stick with the standard version then and work on the skills only
I would push for this approach. Raise your core stats with meaningful passive % increases (Like nearly everyone should if they haven't already), and focus on building a fit that can handle that hefty CPU requirement , and basically work around the Std PC. Maybe it will receive some projectile physics tweaks down the road and become more viable, but this way in case it's always a red headed step child you haven't sunk too much SP into a lark.
TBQH, the weapon is way too fun for me to ever regret skilling into the PC, regardless of whether it ever sees a buff. |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
985
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Posted - 2013.07.28 08:27:00 -
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G Felix wrote:da GAND wrote:G Felix wrote:I don't use it as a mainstay, but it sure is satisfying to be succesful with. It excells as a shotgun equivalent for taking down heavies, particularly those with logi escorts. Also makes for an effective croud control tool, even though the splash feels weak for the weapon's lore. I have never been able to get this weapon to rival packed AV 'nades against vehicles, but the description is correct about sticking to urban areas and tight cover. Out in the open your projectile will most likely be spotted quickly, dodged, and fire will be returned long before that reload is finished.
Would heartily agree that the Std version is the only cost effective version in terms of both SP and ISk.
I have also had many collision detection issues with this weapon's projectile, ie disappearing into walls/floors/dropsuits without exploding. Doesn't seem to have recieved the same kind of love MD's have in that sense.
Then again, as is, it's definitely hard mode... Might just stick with the standard version then and work on the skills only I would push for this approach. Raise your core stats with meaningful passive % increases (Like nearly everyone should if they haven't already), and focus on building a fit that can handle that hefty CPU requirement , and basically work around the Std PC. Maybe it will receive some projectile physics tweaks down the road and become more viable, but this way in case it's always a red headed step child you haven't sunk too much SP into a lark. TBQH, the weapon is way too fun for me to ever regret skilling into the PC, regardless of whether it ever sees a buff. Perfect dust attitude im sure it will get a splash buff or somthing :-) |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
277
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Posted - 2013.07.28 11:15:00 -
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Is it me or do these cannons shoot a dud from time to time? |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
51
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Posted - 2013.07.28 12:58:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for? Plasma canon role is to kill moving infantry at long range, your enemy wont even see you and they will die in one hit.You must compensate for projectile drop and lead your target a lot.Dont even bother shooting vehicules or instalations with it,not worth it because you cant one hit kill those.
but you show them your position after you fired and projectile is slow and can be avoided
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G Felix
Federated Consultants PMC
4
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Posted - 2013.07.28 23:38:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Is it me or do these cannons shoot a dud from time to time?
Yep, they sure do. Occasionally, and in my experience always on the first round of the magazine, the PC will spool up, appear to fire, and not create a plasma projectile at all. This "dud" shot doesn't seem to consume ammo, and doesn't require a reload after firing. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1004
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Posted - 2013.07.28 23:59:00 -
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The funny thing is that people are using it as an AI weapon but it was intended to be a light AV weapon. So the weapon fails miserably in my book. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2501
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Posted - 2013.07.29 00:35:00 -
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Never leave any urban environments you find- it's worthless out in the open. That being said, just use it to suppress for your team, like a giant mass driver. If there are any vehicles, it should be enough just to scare them away.
Aside from the varied suggestions on how to buff the weapon itself, I think it really needs a better sight, like the mass driver. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1714
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:30:00 -
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I took a gamble and used some SP I had to get the Plasma Cannon... Dude... IT WAS THE BEST ******* TIME I'VE EVER HAD IN THIS GAME!
Bro! This weapon was made for me!
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NIGGSWORM
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
51
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:32:00 -
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da GAND wrote:So I just started using a plasma cannon and I went only killed 1 person partially cuz of the plasma cannon I finished the person off with my submachine gun. But I wanna ask anyone that has used the plasma cannon for awhile. What role do you mainly use it for?
trolling people who hack objectives... |
Colonel Killar
Corprate Raiders
170
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Posted - 2013.07.29 22:40:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:This kind of Feedback my friends, is why we can't have nice things. there could be votes but alas no polls for voting. |
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